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Incorrect, touch bar 13" uses a higher chip.

I'm looking at Apple's website right now.

All 13" models are dual core/4 thread. even the i7's and are all using 6xxx "U" series

13" non-touch: i5-6267u (2.9ghz)
13" Touch-Bar: i5-6287u (3.1Ghz)
13" Touch-Bar: i7-6567u (3.3Ghz)

edit: though you're right about the wattage. they're using 28w parts at 23w. But they are still using U series CPU's which i was refering to
 
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I know that you're being sarcastic, but this is exactly how laptops should be. No ports, no cables of any kind. Wireless connection, wireless transfer and wireless charging for everything. Sadly I doubt that we'll see it in widespread use by 2019. Hopefully not long thereafter though.

It's absurd that we're still plugging bits of metal into other bits of metal, when the technology exists to make this problem go away. The industry won't change though until someone has the courage to push the market towards this. Our grandchildren are going to laugh at the idea that phones and laptops used to have holes in them for plugging stuff in, in the same way that they already find it bizarre that SLR camera's used to have actual physical film in them.
I find is absurd Apple uses a 5400 RPM hard drives, but charges as though they use SSDs.

Besides wired is faster and more secure.
 
New StarBucks Pro computers with Coffee Lake CPU inside. Coming this fall, if not delayed by the CPU manufacturer.

:p
 
Damn! I'm going to have to take the plunge late Q4 this Year for my new 15" MBP with TB (and likely Kaby Lake processor). But hey, I'm not complaining. Possibly one of the last iterations of macOS Sierra with most if not all of the Bugs ironed out.

Coffee Lake with macOS13 in 2018 would be my guess, and maybe... a brand new range of notebooks? ;)
 
I can't wait to see Intel's MSRP on that i9 Extreme.
They already announced it on their fact sheet...
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Apple has promised to release a high-end iMac for professional users later this year, and Intel's new Core X-series processors appear to be appropriate for the desktop computer if the company wishes to use them. However, a rumor points towards Apple using Intel's Xeon E3 processors for at least some of the new iMacs.
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"Promised", Nope that was not in the quoted text of the original report at all. What I read is "Apple did not share specific details about what to expect from the refresh." Apple never makes promises. Dare I say it, "Fake news!", probably not, it'll get deleted.
 
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How in the world are they getting 30% improvement (unless only in very specific scenarios)? Wouldn't that be the biggest processor performance leap in like a decade?

Yeah, and it´s probably purely coincidental with AMD just releasing their first decent CPU-line since like forever.. :p
 
The HQ parts weren't launched till Jan 2017,

But the U parts were launched in Oct 2016.

The Macbook pro quad cores wouldn't have been available till January, But any other product Apple uses that use the U series could have been on kaby lake already (the 13 non touch MBP, Macbook Air, MacBook, Mac Mini).

However, Desktop CPU's were the ones really delayed.

NOPE!

Give me one laptop with 7th generation HQ or U CPU on the market.

Your post is complete Bs, there are 7th gen desktop CPUs on the market.
 
Ultrabooks or notebooks

The BackMook air has (had) a removable SSD.
the previous MacBook pro's did too

and many of the competition's ultrabooks also has removable SSD's based around m.2 standard.

But yes, there are a few devices, like Surface Pro's and other thin and lites with soldered in parts. But this is the first Macbook Pro / Air that has done it
 
How in the world are they getting 30% improvement (unless only in very specific scenarios)? Wouldn't that be the biggest processor performance leap in like a decade?

Agreed. Must be specific scenarios that they are getting this. It's great for headlines though, given AMD are busting thier chops in 2017....Intel PR kicking in and doing an AMD move of making huge claims that will not be met
 
NOPE!

Give me one laptop with 7th generation HQ or U CPU on the market.

just one? or how about a companies entire product lineup: Razer
Razer Blade Stealth (13")has the following Options: i5-7200u, i7-7500u
Razer Blade (15" )has the i7-7700HQ
Razer Blade Pro (17") has i7-7820HK AND a 1080 GTX

From Dell (only looking at the XPS line, not their other lineups which also have Kaby Lake parts):
XPS 13": i3-7100u, i5-7200u,
XPS 15": i3-7100H, i5-7300HQ, i7-7700HQ

want me to look up any other manufacturer while I"m at it?
 
To this day I cannot understand how that made it to production. It's like something the Onion would do a parody on...

Lol, honestly I think they don't care about the mouse anymore and just took the easiest route possible, rather than redesigning it with a visible lightning port.
 
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This is completely untrue.

Current MacBooks have the latest Intel and AMD chips.

7th generation wasn't released yet for HQ and U class, and probably won't be, also, it has the same micro architecture and the same process, it doesn't have any battery life or performance improvements, so it's a pure marketing gimmick.

Completely wrong.

Stop spreading nonsense on these forums, I say this , cause people might actually believe what you write when it's so wrong. HQ and U 7th gen chips are out and used by companies such as Razer....many...
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Lol, honestly I think they don't care about the mouse anymore and just took the easiest route possible, rather than redesigning it with a visible lightning port.

I agree. Number one priority is $$$$$ and shipping asap, which explains this zero % effort . Price went up right....
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just one? or how about a companies entire product lineup: Razer
Razer Blade Stealth (13")has the following Options: i5-7200u, i7-7500u
Razer Blade (15" )has the i7-7700HQ
Razer Blade Pro (17") has i7-7820HK AND a 1080 GTX

From Dell (only looking at the XPS line, not their other lineups which also have Kaby Lake parts):
XPS 13": i3-7100u, i5-7200u,
XPS 15": i3-7100H, i5-7300HQ, i7-7700HQ

want me to look up any other manufacturer while I"m at it?

Thank you . Some people really spread FUD on these forums.
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NOPE!

Give me one laptop with 7th generation HQ or U CPU on the market.

Your post is complete Bs, there are 7th gen desktop CPUs on the market.
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To this day I cannot understand how that made it to production. It's like something the Onion would do a parody on...
In all fairness there's nowhere else it could go without a redesign of the mouse. Although the change could just be a flat top where the port would go. I would like a redesign to use the Taptic Engine, make it more ergonomic, and fix the port placement in the future.
 
Please refer to my other comments.

You mean this one "The new Intel chip notwithstanding, actually. If you look at HDMI, Bluetooth, DDR, and display technology, MacBook Pro mid-2017 will most likely be outdated in all of these areas."? I find this post highly sophistic. Here few comments:

- I was not aware that MBP even supports HDMI over USB-C (the spec was finalised shortly before MBP was released and there was probably no hardware for it). It supports DisplayPort 1.2 though. I'm not aware of any competitor's design that would support anything more recent. Let's just call all of them outdated, no?

- The MBP supports Bluetooth 4.2, which is better than any direct competitor design that I am aware of (most laptops are still shipping with 4.0 or 4.1 at best). Yes, there is Bluetooth 5.0, but are there even any computer chips for it?

- DDR — the MBP uses the most recent mobile RAM that the Intel CPU can support. Sure, its not DDR4, but as you are probably aware of, Apple did it because of efficiency concerns. LPDDR3 simply has better power usage profile than DDR4. Performance is the same as similarly clocked DDR4. Also, some competitors are using LPDDR3 in their laptops for exactly the same reason

- Display technology — not really sure what to say here. Apple has literally the brightest laptop displays on the market, which is also among the most energy-efficient ones in addition to offering native wide color support. Contrast and color accuracy are also best-in-class . No idea why you would call them "outdated".

So yes, while you can always find some points why to call the MBP outdated, its just arguing for the sake of arguing. For practical purposes, these laptops are just as "outdated" as anything else currently on the marker, and actually more "up-to date" compared to most.
 
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