The mouse could use a full redesign. Worst mouse I've ever owned.
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The mouse could use a full redesign. Worst mouse I've ever owned.
Wow, that's optimistic.
Is there a 'Waiting for Cannonlake' thread going already? The last one went on for 3 years.
Exactly.
Seems many don't understand what pro means. Those making money with their machines will gladly pay a few extra dollars for upgraded hardware to get their job done. Maxed the specs on my MBP and it paid for itself in less than a week. In the time it would take to open a MBP up and upgrade the RAM, I paid for the difference in price savings a couple times over.
The vast majority of those that complain about specs and prices to BTO aren't pros at all. They're normal consumers who won't use their machine for much more than web browsing, email, and maybe a pirated copy of Photoshop they'll use once every couple months for work that could be done with free alternatives. Their only need for a pro machine is to brag about specs to others and make themselves feel good because they have a top of the line machine (even if they have no need for such things).
Working in a community of thousands of video, audio, and other pros, there's almost no complaining coming from them. Certainly nowhere near what you see on MR coming from non-pros.
That said, a fully wireless future with Thunderbolt in all devices for pro use seems pretty darn nice.
Every device you buy is wireless, except pro devices (or devices that require power) have a Thunderbolt option. (external GPUs, raw DV capture devices, RAID, monitors that can power off the cable, etc).
The problem is that we need much better systems for switching. I'd really like to see NFC bluetooth pairing become some sort of open standard. I can unplug my headset and mouse from my desktop and plug it in to my laptop easily. Doing that with bluetooth is a huge pain.
The Apple Pencil and AirPods are really setting a new standard in that respect.
The AirPods really are fantastic in this regard.
Don't you think pro software developer is short for professional software developer?
And why assume it was used to indicate a title?
Isn't it obvious to you that OP is referencing the "pro" terminology people use to discuss classes of Mac users?
Also, you won't convince too many people with much experience in software development experience that you are speaking with authority when you deride someone based on some tool they may have used. The question is how optimal it was to the task at hand.
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As you have so astutely noted, Intel has done horribly with regard to being able to meet their own release schedules, but hasn't seemed to learn. The Broadwell Fiasco is still the absolute worst example (2 shipping CPUs, WTF?) and I am sure that's why we ended up with Haswell for three generations of 15" MacBook Pros.
We can all complain about the time it took to get Skylake CPUs into MacBook Pros, but I would suggest that everyone Google "Skylake Microsoft Surface 4 Pro issues" and read on from there. MS adopted Skylake earlier than anyone else in the industry to get a jump on Apple and other PC makers and I would bet that they regret it to this day.
Kaby Lake is the latest and greatest until Coffee Lake ships (whenever that may be) and that's that. People on this forum suggesting that Kaby Lake is already outdated are not living in the same reality as the rest of us.
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Just gimme a >30" iMac "Pro" with i9, latest >8 GB VRAM AMD grfx and 64 GB RAM.
Best computer for Final Cut Pro and X-Plane 11.
My wallet is waiting... Thanks.
Best computer for Final Cut Pro and X-Plane 11.
My wallet is waiting... Thanks.
Yeah, now I have to retract and apologize...I could have sworn they jacked the price up on the Magic Mouse 2 to $99 when it is in actuality $79...my bad...I still prefer sticking Eneloops in the mouse and not having to worry about when and if the internal battery on the mouse is going to stop taking a charge, but $10 is a small premium. I think most would say it's because it's such an inelegant solution from Apple considering all the time they spend fussing over the details of their products and telling us how much time they spent in those Jony Ive intro "films". Just my 2 cents.
I'd be absolutely terrified of the new "X" series CPU's in the current iMac chassis. The i7's throttle bad enough at the current heat output. Nevermind a CPU class that is ramped up with an even higher TDP
This is a good point. You can't spend your life waiting for the future to come. Just live in the present.
8GB dGPU would be nice...and power hungry. 64GB of RAM is possible now...and I would love for Apple to give us a 140W CPU with 6 or more cores, but it is just not happening in their current chassis...and 30" at 5K is below the optimal DPI that Apple considers optimal for that resolution - https://bjango.com/articles/macexternaldisplays/ - but who knows, maybe Apple will budge and redesign the whole computer and give us what we want...wait, what am I saying...we know that's a snowball's chance in hell. Hope springs eternal, though.
Six-core 15-inch tbMBP with 32 GB RAM. Would love to have a non-dGPU option again in favor of a cheaper 1 TB option.
Hopefully some time early next year.
Hopefully some time early next year.
If Apple releases the updated MB and MBP on August/September we could get
Coffee Lake instead of Kaby Laby. Waiting two months to release them means new processors vs outdated processors.
Come Apple. Improve your timing! Stop releasing computers with 10+ months old processors!
Coffee Lake instead of Kaby Laby. Waiting two months to release them means new processors vs outdated processors.
Come Apple. Improve your timing! Stop releasing computers with 10+ months old processors!
Ah, but you see, that's the problem right there - which "present"? The real present or the imagined one that so many posters are referring to here where Apple is "using 5 year old Intel processors to maximize profit"? No matter how many times it is pointed out that the 2nd "present" referred to simply isn't true it is the most commonly repeated "present" on MacRumors.
I live in the present and really enjoy my 2016 MacBook Pro for cutting video on the go and then setting up in my editing suite all made possible like never before by Thunderbolt 3 (one frickin' cable and EVERYTHING is connected).
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Ignoring the fact that the KabyLake processors required for the higher end MBPs have only been available since January let's give you that Intel actually releases the CoffeeLake processor in 2 months, though that is a wildly optimistic timeline. So you imagine Apple can release a new computer using a CPU they have had no access to in order to test with the rest of their system the day after Intel releases the new chip? A week? A month? Admittedly I don't build computers for a living but somehow that doesn't seem realistic to me.
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This is where Apple could show some "courage" by taking the spinning hard drives out of the 27" iMac, moving to all flash storage, creating a slightly thicker chassis with usable vents that can actually dissipate heat quickly enough along with creating some sort of compact closed loop liquid cooling setup...OR just give us a new tower called the "Mac" that starts with the Kaby Lake X CPUs and let's us BTO up to, let's say, the 10-Core i9-7900X. Anything 12-core or more ( or go straight to dual CPU Xeons) is reserved for the Mac Pro.
The challenge for Apple is now going to be whether or not they recognize where the market is going (more cores...finally), for better or worse, and give their Pro and Prosumer users the options they crave. Me? I don't NEED a Xeon, but I need more than 4 cores and I need/want PCIe slots to update the GPU and add PCIe cards in the future. My desk is a mess with external Thunderbolt "solutions". I can live just fine 3 slots, one x16 for the GPU, one x8 and one x4 should be sufficient for any video or mass storage interfaces I might want or need.
A Mac Pro should have 5-6 PCIe slots and single or dual CPU options, like the 2006-2012 Mac Pros.
That said, I am fairly psyched about the new X-series...12 cores for $1200.00!!! Wow!!! Last year's Broadwell-E 10-core i7-6950X is $1559.78 at Amazon...exciting times. Thank you AMD Ryzen.
As someone who recently moved from a 2008 iMac to a 2016 13" Macbook Pro, it's been a long time since I've dreaded new hardware eclipsing what I own.
I have 20 years of experience in software development, and I'm yet to see someone address themselves as a professional software developer, with "emphasis" on "pro" Given they are all "professionals" by definition, cause to become a software developer you needed a degree or certification as a software developer professional.....see where it's used...
It's like saying your are more professional than the other developers or programmers. This is not like an amature photographer and professional photographer distinction....
So having a job using a computer is "pro" well that is 98.9% of people with a job....
Anyway, if you have ever worked on "professional" software development , you would understand the swipe at Drupal.... and I only say this cause the only person that I have ever worked with that glorified his title as an "engineer" cause developer was beneath his stature was a drupal Dev....... sadly a complete cowboy who thought rolling out a patch before Xmas was fine as he read the notes and did not see a problem.....clown....yes a professional Dev not do that....
Not all development methodologies and languages are created equal mate... that's my free advice. Drupal Has it's place.....not in complex transactional systems.....anyway, I'm not here to lecture
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Indeed, thank you RYZEN.
Now we just need someone to give apple a kick up the butt like AMD did to interl, amazing how fast they can innovate all the sudden, while previously they were milking it, look at the price of the 6950x....
I don't even want to waste time replying to this badly reasoned and factually deficient comment but here we go:
- There are already phones that you can buy that are equipped with Bluetooth 5.0 so I don't know if you're just too lazy to do your own research before posting or "arguing for the sake of arguing"?
- So you agree with me: "Let's just call all of them outdated, no?" (FYI, all of them outdated logically means MacBook Pro is outdated since it's one of them) It doesn't at all excuse Apple charging its users a premium for an outdated product.
- "Apple has literally the brightest laptop displays on the market": you must be joking.
I couldn't quickly find one. (I also don't see why it's worth bickering about, but that's another matter.)
So I tried to research this, too, and found a comparison by brightness.
The top three spots are Apple. The MacBook Pros offer 564 (13-inch) and 532 (15-inch) nits, respectively. No other laptop even appears to reach 400 nits. Most seem to however between 250 and 400 nits.
It seems to do quite well.