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Interesting Read: Inconvenient Truths About The Apple Watch
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This is the canned response to criticism now isn't it? You guys are just the worst sheep.
Turns out its the wrist of JR Rafael who works for Computerworld. People in the comments were teasing him about his girly wrists.
Speaking of which, OLED on the iPhone would be pretty awesome for battery life especially if iOS finally gets a dark mode. I would totally get an iPhone 7 for that alone.
Disagree with point 1:
If he has a huge arms that's his problem. Apple Watch (42mm) should fit between 140mm and 213mm. That's a great range from ridiculously thin arms and really fat arms.
Half agree with point 2:
It is a factory made leather but there is no chance to make so many leather straps in bulit quality of handcrafted leather strap.
If he has a huge arms that's his problem. Apple Watch (42mm) should fit between 140mm and 213mm. That's a great range from ridiculously thin arms and really fat arms.
Half agree with point 2:
It is a factory made leather but there is no chance to make so many leather straps in bulit quality of handcrafted leather strap.
And what's your experiece with Apple watch to say his opinions should not be taken seriously? How about feedback on the points he raised? This constant mocking of anyone that raised questions about the watch is getting boring and predictable.
If you actually knew anything about watches you would realise that the guy has raised some valid points .
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You are talking about strap size, he is talking about the size of the actual watch. I agree with him, if you are used to wearing a 42 round watch, it's small. Most people will not care, though this affects people who currently wear watches, and maybe surprised that it's smaller.
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That's a really small wrist though. An apple 42 would also look really big.
The moto360 is not huge, though it will look funny on really small wrists. For average people to large it looks fine.
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You never read his blog right? Cause if you did, you need to google irrational, it does not mean what you think it does.
Another person talking about how the Apple Watch is too small. Yes, too small for him, how tall did he was he was, 6"?
EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. It's really simple. 38mm will be good enough for some, 42mm will be good enough for some. The Apple Watch isn't too big or too small.
EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. It's really simple. 38mm will be good enough for some, 42mm will be good enough for some. The Apple Watch isn't too big or too small.
No. The Apple Watch 42mm was taken and put to all wrists within the size range of 140mm and 213mm. They did look at those options and made a decision that 42mm case will fit this range and no more. They tried more options of course. But most watch straps are within this range. They made their homework during those years of research
So, If he is used to wear bigger watch than he has to change his mind or loose weight Simple as that. Same analogy: "If I want to wear a woman's dress I have to prepare my body to it." Which means I am not the target market since I'm a guy.----------
Exactly!
So wait, we should read you opinion on the matter, but ignore his? having read his blog, he raised some valid points worth considering, you did not, you have zero rep, why should we trust you, using your own words
you killed any credibility with your first reply to this thread. Zero rep mate.
I've seen senseless rants, his blog is not one. It's opinions, though valid ones worth considering. You are in for a shock with the leather band!
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No. The Apple Watch 42mm was taken and put to all wrists within the size range of 140mm and 213mm. They did look at those options and made an statement that 42mm case will fit this range and no more. They tried more options of course. But most watch straps are within this range. They made their homework during those years of research
Remove the strap! He is saying the watch is small on wrist. A round 42" watch is bigger on a wrist. You are still talking about strap sizing . I'm talking about the physical dimension of the watch without the strap .
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You are correct . For most people apple has built a device that is absolutely fine for them, with choice.
There are though lots of people over 6"
so for some as he stated in his post that are used to wearing a round 42" or bigger watch, the Apple watch is small. This in mainly due to its shape, not a true 42
So wait, we should read you opinion on the matter, but ignore his? having read his blog, he raised some valid points worth considering, you did not, you have zero rep, why should we trust you, using your own words
you killed any credibility with your first reply to this thread. Zero rep mate.
I've seen senseless rants, his blog is not one. It's opinions, though valid ones worth considering. You are in for a shock with the leather band!
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Remove the strap! He is saying the watch is small on wrist. A round 42" watch is bigger on a wrist. You are still talking about strap sizing . I'm talking about the physical dimension of the watch without the strap .
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You are correct . For most people apple has built a device that is absolutely fine for them, with choice.
There are though lots of people over 6"
Oh my God! Are you listening?! They made their research and they made a decision that 42mm fit those wrists - fat or skin. If he thinks that they are too small because he is used to have a big ( and I think they are oversized ) 50mm watch than he is not the target market and they don't care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha, I was thinking this too. I like the leather strap and smaller face -- it actually has some style which is what Apple has always excelled at. Hate how enormous men's watches are these days.
Did you even read the blog? He is talking about 42" watches. The apple watch is smaller than traditional round 42" watches.
I could care less what research apple did! If I currently wear a 42" watch, and replace it with an apple 42" watch and it's smaller? Is that not a valid opinion to raise? Read the blog! The 50mm is irrelevant.
I stated that the Apple watch is perfect for most people, though he raises a valid point.
I've read it. Tell me, is the Apple Watch square or round? Did Apple announce before the pre-orders all measurements? How many pdf files are on the internet with precise measurements to try on? He had all informations. He tried the watch. It doesn't suits him and he's crying. I feel sorry for him
P.S.: The article doesn't sound like a solid opinion but a regular complaint.
Depends if you wear a watch daily and its size. My daily is a 44, so it's going to take some time getting used to a smaller watch
I've read it. Tell me, are the Apple Watch square or round? Did Apple announce before the pre-orders all measurements? How many pdf files are on the internet with precise measurements to try on? He had all informations. He tried the watch. It doesn't suits him and he's crying. I feel sorry for him
P.S.: The article doesn't sound like a solid opinion but a regular complaint.
Do you understand the difference between a circle and a rectangle ? Which takes up more surface area at 42" ?
wow! Pdf files to determine a watch purchase. You have said enough for me to realise why you believe his points are rubbish. Sorry mate you have no idea about watches. I even bet you have not seen a demo version of the Apple watch .
His not crying. He is raising points that are valid to some people.
if these points do not apply to you, fine. Though given you do not understand what he has actually written, it's not rubbish. People who like and wear watches will find his points interesting and worth reading.
Anyway, this is a waste of our time. Enjoy your day.
I agree with him regarding the leather straps - while I can't comment on the production process, I cannot believe how much Apple are charging for these. I get nice stitched straps for my current watch at a fraction of the price.
The size thing is a non-issue - if there is enough demand for different sizes in sure Apple will make them. You're not going to please everybody on day one.
And regarding the screen quality, again this will improve in time with subsequent versions, just like every other Apple product. Valid criticism of the quality of the current watch though.
The size thing is a non-issue - if there is enough demand for different sizes in sure Apple will make them. You're not going to please everybody on day one.
And regarding the screen quality, again this will improve in time with subsequent versions, just like every other Apple product. Valid criticism of the quality of the current watch though.
Depends if you wear a watch daily and its size. My daily is a 44, so it's going to take some time getting used to a smaller watch
42" means 42 inches.
well, the apple watch is conservatively sized but it's also tasteful.
I will admit that the small size is probably a bit of a nuisance since there will be a lot of information packed into that small screen, but it really isn't that small.
the 42mm looks only a little smaller than the 45mm Panerai, which is about as large a sport watch should be for normal wrists.
he does have a real point about the leather strap though.
for $150, I could get a handmade crocodile strap from out-of-state strap makers and for $300-500, I can get the best quality straps from high-end watch brands like Patek.
Given that the Apple watch, the stainless steel version, is not really a high-end product and that the leather is probably mass-produced, it should've cost like $50-70.
I will admit that the small size is probably a bit of a nuisance since there will be a lot of information packed into that small screen, but it really isn't that small.
the 42mm looks only a little smaller than the 45mm Panerai, which is about as large a sport watch should be for normal wrists.
he does have a real point about the leather strap though.
for $150, I could get a handmade crocodile strap from out-of-state strap makers and for $300-500, I can get the best quality straps from high-end watch brands like Patek.
Given that the Apple watch, the stainless steel version, is not really a high-end product and that the leather is probably mass-produced, it should've cost like $50-70.
ill pass on your valid feedback to my autocorrect, on my iPhone.
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I know what you mean. For the price of Apple leather straps, you get some excellent Leather that looks and feels like leather.
http://www.kaktus-straps.com/home.htm
I think it is an interesting article, but what he states are 'inconvenient truths' are really just his opinions. My try-on experience leads me to different opinions:
Inconvenient Truth #1: The Apple Watch Is Really Small
I was surprised that the 42mm was smaller than I imagined when I saw it in real life, but on my 175mm wrists I think it is a good size. I feel that anything bigger would be too big for me, but If I had bigger wrists and liked bigger watches then I can see why he thinks the 42mm is too small. The crown did seem a bit fiddly when I first used it, but after a couple of minutes on the demo model it felt quite natural.
Inconvenient Truth #2: Apples Leather Bands Feel Cheap
I wanted the link bracelet since the Apple Watch was first announced, so was disappointed that it wasn't available for delivery from launch. So I ordered a SS watch with the classic buckle and a link bracelet separately. When I saw them both in real life, the link bracelet disappointed me, but I really liked the classic buckle strap. I have cancelled the link bracelet pre-order.
Inconvenient Truth #3: The Screen Isnt As Sharp or Bright As You Probably Think
The screen looked much better than I imagined when I saw it in real life, so I guess I must have had lower expectations.
Inconvenient Truth #1: The Apple Watch Is Really Small
I was surprised that the 42mm was smaller than I imagined when I saw it in real life, but on my 175mm wrists I think it is a good size. I feel that anything bigger would be too big for me, but If I had bigger wrists and liked bigger watches then I can see why he thinks the 42mm is too small. The crown did seem a bit fiddly when I first used it, but after a couple of minutes on the demo model it felt quite natural.
Inconvenient Truth #2: Apples Leather Bands Feel Cheap
I wanted the link bracelet since the Apple Watch was first announced, so was disappointed that it wasn't available for delivery from launch. So I ordered a SS watch with the classic buckle and a link bracelet separately. When I saw them both in real life, the link bracelet disappointed me, but I really liked the classic buckle strap. I have cancelled the link bracelet pre-order.
Inconvenient Truth #3: The Screen Isnt As Sharp or Bright As You Probably Think
The screen looked much better than I imagined when I saw it in real life, so I guess I must have had lower expectations.
I don't think you're wrong. I could see a certain graininess in the demo model I played with.
I guess OLED technology isn't up to retina quality yet? Traditional color LCDs took decades to get to that point.
Overall, I thought the article was accurate. It echoed many of my first impressions after playing with a watch in the store. The small-size observation, in particular, was not what I was expecting before going into the store - I was expecting quite the opposite. But once I'd played with one of the fully functional units, and tried on one, I was sorely disappointed with how small the screen is for the amount of information and touch-targets they're trying to cram onto some screens. They're going to have to simplify the UI considerably. IMHO.
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