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God forbid you post something that has a negative opinion about an apple product.

I haven't seen the watch yet. I'm waiting until it arrives 4/24-5/8 to form an opinion. Hoping I'll love it.

The problem is opinions being couched as "truths".
 
I took photos of the Apple sport watch on my wrist. I wasn't evaluating screen resolution. It looked fine so I didn't bother to look closer. After reading this guy's blog, I went back and examined the pics I took and noticed something interesting. They were showing a map of Tokyo on one of the demo loops. The street names were in an Asian character set, presumably kanji. Not only was there no screen door, everything looked sharp and I could almost read the Asian characters on the zoomed out map (if only I knew what they meant). But wait. It gets better. There was something like screen door... on a 45 degree angle. It turns out there were shaded regions of the map and the shading made it look like screen door but you look at other regions of the screen and the display is solid with no lines at all. I don't know how he got a unit that made Mickey Mouse look so bad but I'm pretty sure that if I'd waited for Mickey to come up on the demo loop of the unit I was wearing he would have looked just fine.

Then there is the matter of size. I thought about ordering the 38mm version because I prefer small watches. I normally wear a Citizen Eco Drive 5mm thick watch that is square and about 40mm tall and 30mm wide. I downloaded one of those jpg images you can print out at 100% and cut out to try on your wrist. This was enough for me to figure out I needed the 42mm Apple watch for my "old eyes". I prefer smaller watches. This is 2015 not 1915. We shouldn't need any of our technology to be getting bigger and or heavier right now.

If you want one of those hockey puck watches then by all means go buy one but I'm glad Apple chose to go with a reasonably small size for the Apple watch. I'm a little disappointed we didn't get the concept I'd seen where the Apple watch was more like a continuous plastic strap only 3mm thick with a wraparound display. Maybe the third generation will be like that. But bigger isn't better for most things these days. Since I wear my watch almost all the time, the last thing I need is a bulky watch getting snagged on things when I'm working on my car or working on construction and the last thing I want to do is take my watch off every time I want to use my hands to do real work.
 

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He is griping away about the watch being too small for a guy who is built like a "linebacker who got a little fat". Good, all the more for me. I am built like a mosquito and this is the best news I have heard about this watch today. I am glad it won't look like a sofa cushion tied to my wrist.
 
Your phone was auto-correcting 42mm to 42"? Crazy! :rolleyes:

You got me ! I meant a 42 inch apple watch

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The problem is opinions being couched as "truths".

And there are no problems with the "truths" when they are positive right? It's called hypocrisy. One persons truths is another persons opinion, for the guys blogging, these are facts. A fact is a truth. For you reading it , it's an opinion.

What you post , you believe it's true , I consider it an opinion as I disagree with a lot of it. Who has the right to judge what is the truth, given none of us have the actual product
 
And there are no problems with the "truths" when they are positive right? It's called hypocrisy. One persons truths is another persons opinion, for the guys blogging, these are facts. A fact is a truth. For you reading it , it's an opinion.

What you post , you believe it's true , I consider it an opinion as I disagree with a lot of it. Who has the right to judge what is the truth, given none of us have the actual product

I have just as much of a problem with presenting positive opinions as "truths" as I have with negative ones.

In my opinion, what he presents as "truths" are opinions. Whether or not the Apple Watch is "Really Small" is relative to ones wrist size, it's not an absolute truth. The "feeling" of the leather bands and the "look" of the display are subjective and should not be misrepresented as "truths".
 
My impressions on the same aspects of the watch, after my try-on appointment are:

1. Size – I disagree

I was sweating bullets the 42mm watch might be too large on my wrist. I breathed a sigh of relief when it turned out it wasn't. My Longines watch that I sold to get the Apple Watch had a case diameter of 33mm. My wrist is 62mm wide and 180mm around.

My average to large male fingers found the digital crown very easy to find and operate, no "precise fingering" required.

2. Leather straps – I agree

I found the feel and look of all the leather straps terrible. And he's right, they don't look like leather at all. The way they are formed around holes etc. makes it look like Apple ground leather into a fine powder, turned it into a paste and thermoformed it. Thankfully I have no plans of getting one of those.

3. Screen quality – I disagree

The screen is bright, sharp and gorgeous, even compared to the iPhone 6. I have no idea what he was looking at. BTW, I can see pixels on my iPhone screen when I take a close-up shot.

If I was looking for one, the only downside of the screen I could find is that under bright light you can tell the screen from the bezel that surrounds it.
 
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So he doesn't like the screen. Go find a better one, then.

So he doesn't like the leather and its lack of stitching. So, get a link or Milanese Loop instead. Or the rubber, which uniformly reviews well. Or go 3rd-party.

So he doesn't like size-- too small, for this guy who claims he's built like a linebacker. So, go full Woz and get one of those tuna-can Nixie-tube contraptions, then.

Not a word about the functionality, which is really the only reason for the Watch to exist.


There are options out there. The Watch is a new one. It does some things very well, others less-well perhaps.

I wonder what his point in writing all that really was.
 
I can accept most of the article as "entitled to his opinion" but I have to call out one line...

"Imagine my disappointment when I saw the screen actually looks like this:"
Apple Watch screen photo

Isn't it weird the way the Apple Watch screen made his arm hair all blurry like that? Having a few years of experience in graphic arts also tells me that photo looks like it has had the contrast, blur and saturation manipulated as well.

The screen looked pretty nice when I saw it...
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If you didn't like the watch, that's fine. Don't stretch the truth to validate yourself.
 
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He might be, but over the past few weeks it's become glaringly obvious how this community reacts to different types of posts concerning the Apple watch.

If you have anything positive to say, especially due to your small amount of time with the watch during a try on, you totally nailed it, everyone agrees, and you're celebrated for a great contribution.

If you have anything critical to say, especially due to your small amount of time with the watch during try on, you're an idiot, and have no right to your opinion because you didn't even get to experience the product long enough to know what you're talking about.

If you're a reviewer who had overall positive things to say about the Apple Watch, you totally get it and are proof positive that this thing is going to be a smash hit.

If you're a reviewer who had concerns, or negative comments concerning the Apple Watch, you're a hater who intended to always give it a bad review, and your website is a joke, and nothing published there will be taken seriously from this point forward.

The overwhelming majority of people here are drowning in confirmation bias. They want to love the Apple Watch so much (which they are well within their rights to do, warranted or not) that any positive message about the watch is regarded as fact, or evidence, and proof that it's amazing and they're patted on the back for speaking their mind. Any negative messages are met by dismissing the poster, demonizing them or discrediting them as a nobody and completely ignoring anything they had to say.

I have to say that I'm surprised because normally I'd assume that anyone ******** on the Apple Watch might in fact actually just be a troll or an Android person or whatever, but I've seen almost none of it. Instead, the criticisms I've seen are explained clearly, without insult, and usually backed up by personal experience, or expertise in a particular area, but it absolutely does not matter.

There's a response for everything, and it's rarely constructive.



I'm pretty sure zacheryjensen is just one guy.
 
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This picture is heavily misleading. It makes the display look pixelated and blurry. But if you pay attention - actually it is the whole photograph that looks this way. you just dont notice it right away because all you look at is the display.

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the apple watch display isnt as good as the iphone displays - it is not really retina.

For one reason - it is a pentile display. you cant really compare Apple Watch PPI to iPhone PPI. A pentile display probably needs to be over 400ppi to really look retina.
 
Speaking of which, OLED on the iPhone would be pretty awesome for battery life especially if iOS finally gets a dark mode. I would totally get an iPhone 7 for that alone.

It'd be funny if this happened, because several fanboys criticized Galaxy devices for having ''overly saturated OLED displays''.

I love OLED.:cool:
 
He might be, but over the past few weeks it's become glaringly obvious how this community reacts to different types of posts concerning the Apple watch.

If you have anything positive to say, especially due to your small amount of time with the watch during a try on, you totally nailed it, everyone agrees, and you're celebrated for a great contribution.

If you have anything critical to say, especially due to your small amount of time with the watch during try on, you're an idiot, and have no right to your opinion because you didn't even get to experience the product long enough to know what you're talking about.

If you're a reviewer who had overall positive things to say about the Apple Watch, you totally get it and are proof positive that this thing is going to be a smash hit.

If you're a reviewer who had concerns, or negative comments concerning the Apple Watch, you're a hater who intended to always give it a bad review, and your website is a joke, and nothing published there will be taken seriously from this point forward.

The overwhelming majority of people here are drowning in confirmation bias. They want to love the Apple Watch so much (which they are well within their rights to do, warranted or not) that any positive message about the watch is regarded as fact, or evidence, and proof that it's amazing and they're patted on the back for speaking their mind. Any negative messages are met by dismissing the poster, demonizing them or discrediting them as a nobody and completely ignoring anything they had to say.

I have to say that I'm surprised because normally I'd assume that anyone ******** on the Apple Watch might in fact actually just be a troll or an Android person or whatever, but I've seen almost none of it. Instead, the criticisms I've seen are explained clearly, without insult, and usually backed up by personal experience, or expertise in a particular area, but it absolutely does not matter.

There's a response for everything, and it's rarely constructive.

...You make it seem like this is something new & unexpected... this is the internet...

Is this the first time you've been on a forum about something new that's coming out? Cause I feel bad if it is. It's always sad to see when someone first realizes that the internet is not a rational or logical place, where everyone is a judge in their own right, extremes are commonplace, & everyone else is wrong but you.
 
I can accept most of the article as "entitled to his opinion" but I have to call out one line...

"Imagine my disappointment when I saw the screen actually looks like this:"
Apple Watch screen photo

Isn't it weird the way the Apple Watch screen made his arm hair all blurry like that? Having a few years of experience in graphic arts also tells me that photo looks like it has had the contrast, blur and saturation manipulated as well.

The screen looked pretty nice when I saw it...
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If you didn't like the watch, that's fine. Don't stretch the truth to validate yourself.

That photo of yours looks severely wrong. It is like super bright, the black is almost radiating white.
 
That photo of yours looks severely wrong. It is like super bright, the black is almost radiating white.

It is cropped but otherwise unedited photo from my iPhone 6. I was trying to show a similar face to the one in the articleThe exposure on this one was much better exposed.

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A what?! Where did you hear that? The (blurry) photo in the review doesn't make it look like pentile, those tend to have a green hue all over and around every edge.

It's OLED alright, but not pentile.

Yes it is. Just look at this picture

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Look at the "Tokyo" or 10:09. You can see the pentile arrangemetn.
 
I'll have to defer judgement on this until I've looked at it through a loupe, or taken a close-up shot.

Do you have any source backing up your assertion, or just that picture?

Nilay Patel says he is 99% sure it was a pentile Display. One should always take that with a grain of salt - however - keep in mind that he was the one who "invented" microscopic pictures of displays. With invent I mean he mainly introduced them into mainstream electronic devices reviews.

From the pictures I am pretty sure and Nilay thinks so too - it also makes sense from an energy saving point of view.
 
I think his first point could be reasonable if you're a big guy that likes very big watches. I don't like big watches and after trying both on, went with the 38mm. I did not look at the leather bands at all. His picture of the screen looks awful and not anything like the watches I used at my try on appointment, so I wouldn't put much stock in the third point. They had bright, fantastic screens.
 
42 is perfect for me (160 mm arm/ 6ft tall man)!
38 is like way too small.

Moto 360 looks oversized/ imbalanced. Esp with "small" looking band

The screen was fine in person.

(Btw Milanese band was comfy but not masculine enough ;-)

Can't wait till 4/24 !
 
Tried the Applewatch on and was impressed with what I saw. Of couse I didn't have the time to check out every feature, customization and style. The lighting in the store actually took away from the watch .
Keep in mind the screen is small but still big enough to see whats going on.
Using the Applewatch in everyday life will be the answer to whether this Applewatch is superior or not. Also lets see what kind of Apps are created for the watch as that may be the deal maker or breaker
 
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