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Except you just did respond. What you actually meant to say is...... I respond very sarcastically to people who make valid points I cant refute, then after my snarky response, that I claim Im above doing......I block them. Ok, block away.....you win.
Valid points that can’t be refuted... Classic retort from someone who just wants to provoke. I don’t block many people but I do block some. Your unnecessary post isn’t the same kind of thing so I don’t have any intention of blocking you based on it. It’s not a matter of who wins or loses, most people usually understand that concept.
 
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I'm actually surprised that Amazon is ahead of Apple in this respect. How hard can it be to code restrictions for children using a device?
 
I'm 49 and I'll a little addicted too. When I'm home from work sitting watching TV, most of the time my iPad is in my lap and I'm reading news and stuff on it.
 
My nephew has an iPad I bought for him. My sister doesn't let him stay on it all day. When he's with my dad he can sometimes play with it. Otherwise my dad keeps it safe for him so he's not on it all day.
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I'm 49 and I'll a little addicted too. When I'm home from work sitting watching TV, most of the time my iPad is in my lap and I'm reading news and stuff on it.
That's a little bit different and you are using it to read news and what not. That's not what I would call addicted to it. I'm open to revising my opinion.
[doublepost=1515445007][/doublepost]There is a part of me that says let this work itself out. People's tastes will change soon enough. I barely even use the facebook part of facebook except in small spurts that usually only result in me being on facebook maybe an hour a week if at all.
 
My nephew has an iPad I bought for him. My sister doesn't let him stay on it all day. When he's with my dad he can sometimes play with it. Otherwise my dad keeps it safe for him so he's not on it all day.
My cousin locks his kids' tablets and only lets them use it in front of him. But his kids are young.
 
We are all addicted to tech in one way or another. Be that tech the Tv or tablet. It’s not the manufacturers, not governments responsibility to make sure you and your kids don’t get messed up. That’s on you. It’s always someone else’s fault. We as a society need to grow up and put on our big boy pants.
 
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Obviously you didn’t read my whole message. In any case, I have taken a policy that I don’t respond to people who reply in such a way any longer. Life is too short to suffer blowhards who are only comfortable in their hyper aggressive, self-assured manner that assumes they are the only source of actual truth or opinion. Blocking you, thanks.

The safe space is over there. Along with bubble wrap for those delicate darling children. :rolleyes: As for the non-blockers, the point is simple: if you have kids, BE A PARENT, and if you can't, stop being blowhards demanding that tech companies shoulder YOUR jobs and instead reassess your priorities in life. If your yoga class or screenplay are taking away that time you should be spending rearing your kids, that's frankly too bad. And if the tech is the source of the issue, try not giving your kids everything on the market and perhaps hand them a ball or a book.

Also, as a sidenote, perhaps running from criticism because you find it too "aggressive" is why you're having trouble managing children in the first place. That's not a personal attack, just something any sensible person should consider unless they are sure they are absolutely right and all knowing. The world (and Apple) frankly don't have time to engineer society to compensate for anyone's time management issues and certainly aren't stand-in babysitters.
 
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“Apple have no responsibility here”... Blah, blah, blah. Give over! Of course they do.

Yes the parents are ultimately responsible for their children, but why should it bother ANYONE on this forum or elsewhere, if Apple are encouraged to provide better parental controls?!!

Get over yourselves!
 
“Apple have no responsibility here”... Blah, blah, blah. Give over! Of course they do.

Yes the parents are ultimately responsible for their children, but why should it bother ANYONE on this forum or elsewhere, if Apple are encouraged to provide better parental controls?!!

Get over yourselves!

Get over YOURself. How much more do you think Apple needs to provide for people? What more controls are "better?" A robot that physically pulls a phone from the kid's hands in their own home? Perhaps a wifi usage meter so that then people can complain that their little flowers are feeling "pressured" to hurry while surfing?

If these parents and their kids lack self control, what's wrong with basic feature phones and a computer in a stationary place that isn't turned on? Will that in any way REALLY negatively affect someone's life? Or is it then an argument about them being singled out because they can't act like their friends? There's a guy I know at work who can't go out drinking after work due to his addiction issues, so instead of expecting every bar to close when he's coming down the street he avoids the situation that he clearly can't handle. Perhaps using that as an example would provide some thoughts on a solution.
 
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That is good one! Let’s block apps like a candy crush, Facebook, Snapchat!twitter.
 
Get serious, robots?! FFS. Could you be any more condescending referring to little flowers?! Deary me...

Why would anyone have an issue with something like:

* Time restrictions across devices
* Ability to get map directions to family members
* Locking down DNS
 
... but is it the responsibility of the platform maker to govern that...

or maybe it should be the kids *parents*?

... but is it the responsibility of the platform maker to govern that...

or maybe it should be the kids *parents*?

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I agree with this completely. Apple could do a lot to step up their game as far as parental controls are concerned. The statistics that are coming out are alarming.

I don't think Apple is responsible for it and should be forced to do this, but I do actually think it is a good opportunity for them to provide a better service that parents desperately need. If done right the iPhone would quickly become the smartphone of choice for parents with teenagers.

I'd like to see Apple adopt some of the same features as Circle by Disney but build it right into the OS so it applies to both Wifi and Cell Data usage, and is controlled via iCloud. It is not just about limiting harmful content, it also about limiting time, and receiving feedback on what the time spent on. A simple graph showing your daughter spend 3 hours a day on Instragram can open up a lot of needed conversations.

It seams like currently there are some decent tools available for Home Wifi and some less decent tools cell data. As a parent you have learn and pay for both. It is pain point for parents that is in need of a good product or service to address.

Completely agree.

E.g. Google's wifi router has interesting parental controls, where you can kill your children's wifi and limit it.

The thing I can't stand about this thread - how binary and trigger-happy people are with their opinions: "Be better parents!!" isn't the sole solution to this growing problem.
 
This was a game that was going to loose anyway from day #1.

You can't throw a bunch of rules around and expect kids to follow them... even when u try and do a counter-attack afterwards, these people are smart.

The only right way to handle this is not give them a phone to begin with. Let them pay for it themselves, like adults do... Educating is not the answer either, but it can help.. After all... doesn't everything today "help" ?

After you,, cut the funding out, and they can't do a thing :D
 
We all know how this will play out. People are hooked. They can't stop. They fein day and night for their little screen of addiction. And what does that mean for them psychologically when they see that their precious is bad for them? Why, they disregard it, that's what.

The science is there and growing every day. Too much internet, too much smart phone and tablet time is ruining parts of the brain. It's a fact. It's happening. But will anyone take the laptops back out of schools? Will the government step in and put regulations in place to prevent kids from turning into little vegetables without attention spans?

Nope. Why? Because... the precious!!!!!
 
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Apple should do more to reduce growing smartphone addiction among children, said two major investors on Monday (via USA Today). In an open letter to the tech giant, New York-based Jana Partners LLC and the California State Teachers' Retirement System wrote of their increasing concern about the effects of mobile devices and social media on youngsters, urging Apple to offer more tools and choices to help prevent harm.

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The letter cited several studies revealing the negative effects of smartphones and social media on children's mental and physical health. For example, one study found that 67 percent of over 2,300 teachers surveyed believe that the number of students who are negatively distracted by gadgets in the classroom is growing, while 75 percent say students' ability to focus on educational tasks has decreased.

In another study, eighth graders who are heavy users of social media were shown to have a 27 percent higher risk of depression, compared to children who exceed the average time spent playing sports, socializing with friends, or doing homework, all of whom have a much lower risk.

To counter the threat, the investors - who collectively control $2 billion worth of Apple shares - suggested that Apple set up an expert committee including child development specialists and make its information more available to researchers. The letter also proposed enhancing iOS and associated apps to give parents and guardians more resources to protect their children's wellbeing.

Article Link: Investors Urge Apple to Do More to Protect Children From Smartphone Addiction

I saw this at 6AM on Bloomberg on AppleTV this morning.

Apple is to be responsible? They've done there part long ago.

Parents ... need to BE PARENTS!
Get used to techology and implement Parental Controls! Schools issuing iPads to students use this.

When I grew up as "a lickle yute" (as we say from back-a-yard in Jamaica) your parents are responsible for YOU until your 18yrs old. The TV was the scapegoat for such useless excuses to blame bad behaviour, no ambition, not getting homework done or research etc. Back then my parents acted properly as parents should do:

Turn off the TV
Ground you from the TV/Going outside/hanging with friends in the building.
- when I got smart and crafty cause both my mother and father worked 2 shifts each day ...
CANCEL CABLE TV.
Contact other parents and get them on the same page, meaning if the other kid helped you out of being grounded their arse was torn up too!

Sorry I maybe old school but there is no damn excuse for Parents not being Parents ... and blaming a company that has already provided tools to help Parents be parents and kids be kids within reason and guidance is cop-out/give-up in my book.
 
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Even if parental controls are enabled I'm betting the parents of those kids who spend five or more hours per day on social media per day aren't going to activate it. The parents who take an active role in their children's development are already providing outside alternatives to wasting time on things like Facebook and Instagram. While more control may help them keep the kids from accessing content on the sly, most of those kids are already being held to a higher standard for mental development.

On the other hand, parents who either allow or don't care if their kids are spending all their available time on mind-wasting content aren't going to be bothered to even learn how to set up the additional controls.

This is nothing more than a version of the argument that state-sponsored early childhood education needs to start before the children turn two. The parents aren't doing their job working with their children to teach basic skills and they are entering school woefully unprepared. Social media isn't the problem any more than TV or video games have been for years.

Ultimately, no matter how noble the goals of this group are, putting blame and responsibility for the development of the children on a nameless, faceless entity (either the government or some corporations) is just a way of removing personal responsibility for your children's failings.

I have no issue with Apple implementing some of the ideas the group has, but ultimately I don't think the benefit will be anywhere near what the group expects.
 
I'm amazed at the number of posters saying that parents should parent, when this topic is exactly proposing more smartphone controls for parents to enable. What planet do you people live on where parents are watching their kids more than a few hours per day? They're at school all day, and then part of the time while they're home you have to prepare dinner, do other household tasks, and perhaps spend some time relaxing. It would be nice to not have to stare over your kid's shoulder constantly to see what they're doing.
 
Also, Apple should drive them to school, cook their meals and bring them through puberty.
 
I'm amazed at the number of posters saying that parents should parent, when this topic is exactly proposing more smartphone controls for parents to enable. What planet do you people live on where parents are watching their kids more than a few hours per day? They're at school all day, and then part of the time while they're home you have to prepare dinner, do other household tasks, and perhaps spend some time relaxing. It would be nice to not have to stare over your kid's shoulder constantly to see what they're doing.

Parenting is more than just constantly hovering over your child’s shoulders and telling them what they can or cannot do, but about the inculcating of values. Teach the kid to distinguish between right and wrong, appropriate and otherwise, so that he may police himself without you always having to play helicopter parent.
 
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Is this another "Caution; this drink it hot" type of nonsense?

Do you know how I control the social media for my 15 years old? She does not have social media because she does not need it. Few years ago when she asked for Instagram and Snapchat we let her use it under the conditions that she would not spend too much time on it. but she abused it and we deleted her accounts and blocked the iPhone to allow her to download any apps and restricted Safari. Same with her MacBook - problem solved and she is doing just fine without that garbage.

Wow poor girl, she'll def have social problems in the future for overly excessive controlling parents and not being able to grow up the same way as the rest of her generation.
 
I've been saying for years that Apple needs to put better restrictions options in iOS. Parents should be allowed to limit all apps, limit who kids can email/message/facetime, set time limits so kids can only spend X time on the device or not after y time of day. also whitelisting/blacklisting sites by the site address and making ad blockers part of the OS so they work across the board not just in safari
 
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You would think these investors would cry foul about relevant stuff like slowing down customers' phones.
 
So Apple now has to act as a Helicopter parent?

Good grief! When will others being blamed for the lack of accountability end.

While I agree with your sentiments, what else can we expect? We've done away with personal accountability more and more for decades.

People make a good point that parents should be parenting, but not only are the parents themselves just as addicted (if not more), families are more broken than ever before. More single parents, both/only parents working all day.

If people can't be responsible for having kids in the first place, I don't think we'll see the quality of parenting and accountability rise at all. It's actually very sad and not only not addressed, but quite a few people have celebrated it.
 
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