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It always impresses me how quickly iOS users adopt new OS versions. That says something about both Apple's ease of updating, and users' willingness to embrace new updates.
 
Guys, Android is NOT like iOS, where you have to have the latest version to get many useful features.

So when I can do everything I need to on my "old" OS (and more than I can on iOS), I see no (desperate) reason to upgrade.

And these iOS graphs mean nothing when Apple basically "forces" you to upgrade, and prohibits downgrading after a while.
 
I honestly feel like they make it run slower on the previous gen devices.

No, they don't intentionally do it. It's because new iPhones will come out every year, so they optimize the new iOS iterations to agree with the newest hardware. Gradually, the software might become slower, but evetually, it will become obsolete if you don't upgrade your phone every few years. They're assuming people will upgrade their phone every 2 years.
 
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No, they don't intentionally do it. It's because new iPhones will come out every year, so they optimize the new iOS iterations to agree with the newest hardware. Gradually, the software might become slower, but evetually, it will become obsolete if you don't upgrade your phone every few years. They're assuming people will upgrade their phone every 2 years.

This is a horrible assumption. I have an iPhone 6S Plus. By all intents and purposes it should run 10.2 without any issues. Yet it lags in everything I do. Typing text should be be any lag.

I upgrade my iPhone about once every 3-4 years, this is more feasible than every 2, especially with cell companies basically raping people now with their lease plans.
 
This is a horrible assumption. I have an iPhone 6S Plus. By all intents and purposes it should run 10.2 without any issues. Yet it lags in everything I do. Typing text should be be any lag.

I upgrade my iPhone about once every 3-4 years, this is more feasible than every 2, especially with cell companies basically raping people now with their lease plans.
Apple doesn't care if your phone lags. They just want to show the high percent of users that are on the latest OS.
 
I've managed to not upgrade. I know, I know there's persistent nagging but you're really not forced. If the nagging is too much for you, the TV OS can be installed to stop both it and the download. When I was less experienced with iOS than I am now, I upgraded prematurely once, paid the price for it in lost time, then decided to learn to be more careful about updating in the future. Certainly, MR' (or similar) members should be aware about how to avoid updating. After being burned by an update once, I'm sure even novices jump on the Net to figure out their device options.

I can't be the only one who acted similarly so I think most of the iOS 10 adopters did so intentionally.
 
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Android only succeeded in keeping Apple from monopolizing the market, an undesirable condition in itself, compared to monopolizing the profits with no regulators' scrutiny.

You would prefer an Apple monopoly in the smartphone/tablet market?:confused:

Can you image how much more money they would hose customers if they had no competition to keep them check? $1000 for the base model easily. $2000 for the high end.:eek: I, for one, like competition.
 
Apple doesn't care if your phone lags. They just want to show the high percent of users that are on the latest OS.

LOL Agreed! :)
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What took you so long to post that comment? :D

I kept typing as fast as possible while iOS 10 was buffering what I was writing, once finished I had to wait, and wait, and wait, then it produced what I typed. Then when I hit POST REPLY there was another delay ;)
 
ios10 broke my iphone 5, it is much slower and camera doesn't turn images correctly. there is no point to update to next version,
 
LOL Agreed! :)
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I kept typing as fast as possible while iOS 10 was buffering what I was writing, once finished I had to wait, and wait, and wait, then it produced what I typed. Then when I hit POST REPLY there was another delay ;)
Something is REALLY wrong with your phone if it's that bad on 10.2 We have hundreds of these in deployment and testing, and are not having this problem.
 
Over at Android people complain that they don't get updates. Over at Apple, people complain that Apple offers updates so often.
Hard to be impressed when your device tricks you into upgrading through random popup reminders.

It's happened before whilst I was playing a game that requires key presses in the exact same space.

Sorry that happened, but the vast majority of people are not tricked into updating - and what happened to you sounds more like unfortunate timing than anything else.

I honestly feel like they make it run slower on the previous gen devices.

They don't, but we'll probably still be debating this in ten years.

Guys, Android is NOT like iOS, where you have to have the latest version to get many useful features.

No, but they need the latest version to get security updates, etc. Android users hate that they don't get updates, I'm not sure why iOS users are defending this.
 
I believe so too, people tell me I need to restore and blah
No, 10.2 on 6 Plus is laggy

Isn't much better on my 7...

I am likely to switch back to Android I think. I have no brand loyalty to be honest, I have switched back and fourth as I saw fit which best served my needs. I was happy with less functionality on my iPhone for a less buggy/smooth experience, but it is anything but that for the last 2-3 years (miss the iPhone 4S days). Now I am not even doing intensive stuff on my iPhone, no gaming etc, simply using mail app, Safari, Phone app and some messenger apps. The amount of bugs/freezes/lag/camera issues I face daily is enough. I would say it is the phone, but what is the chances of both my 6S, my replacement 6S and my new 7 all being lemons? My wifes iPhone is no different. I know some people probably will say they don't experience it, but I think different people just have different thresholds for this. I remember using some android phones a few years ago and comparing the smoothness to the iPhones, and some users just didn't see it, while I clearly saw it.

Something has changed at Apple. I am not going to naively pretend that Android will be 100% smooth, but I'll be paying a lot less for it and I don't remember my experience with my Samsung S6 Edge being this bad (I actually replaced that for an iPhon.
 
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Some of these comments are just plain laughable. How dare Apple actually update its software, giving you new features and security patches for free?

If you don't like software updates, you should consider switching to Android. You'll likely be stuck with the software version that comes installed on your device forever, even if it has major security issues.
 
When will you talk about how often they break and how bad they make it run on older devices so you give them $1000 once every two years.
 
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