iOS 10 Now Installed on Nearly 80% of Active iOS Devices

[otternonsense]

I'm sure the incessant reminders and not digitally signing previous iOS versions since November '16 had nothing to do with it.

 

[I7guy]

Its why Apple is the industry leader in smartphone planned obsolscence.

More hyperbole. You can't "prove" that statement.

 

[celaurie]

Most of the 16% of users on iOS 9 are not upgrading probably because many of them have 16g iOS devices and are full. Even if they are getting prompted with the upgrade message, they can't download and install the new iOS version OTA because their device is full. Most don't want to hook their device to a PC and do a back-up and update...

Let's not forget the masses that don't have a clue what an OS is and just want 'a iApple phone'...

 

[jayducharme]

My main concern with the next iOS update is APFS. Shifting to a new file system is bound to introduce unpredictable bugs, especially with older apps. I'd like to assume that Apple will properly test everything, but I'm not that confident.

 

[navigates]

Hard to be impressed when your device tricks you into upgrading through random popup reminders.

It's happened before whilst I was playing a game that requires key presses in the exact same space.

Very well said. The device tricks you into upgrading and most folks will upgrade just to get the annoyance out of the way.
In my case I too upgraded to iOS 10 and lost the PPTP vpn which is needed for me.
Down grade was not possible and I had to sell my iPhone and rebuy the exact same phone with an old stock to get iOS 9.3 again. Finally disabled updates and i'm back in business with a lot of money lost due to Apple's sickness.

Cheap tricks from Apple and this article is very un-impressive. Apple should stop harassing and then run these numbers. Will assure you the number will be skewed which will be directly proportionate to their bottom line (stock price)

 

[leroypants]

Most people I know did not want to update but got tired of daily spam reminders from Apple and well over a gig of lost storage from a forced download.

 

[IG88]

Meanwhile, at the Legion of Doom:

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I was a die hard Android fan, but fragmentation and ****** battery life were 2 of the biggest drawbacks that finally pushed me to an iPhone.

#1 was when Apple released the world version of the iPhone 6 that worked on every carrier. I bought one that week.

 

[Radon87000]

More hyperbole. You can't "prove" that statement.

My devices and judging from some responses from some members,their devices as well have seen a huge slow down. Thats all the proof we need
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There are many things that cannot be updated without an OS update as well. My brother-in law can testify to that with his 2015 Moto X that is stuck on 6.0 with its serious Bluetooth issues, and Lenovo won't update it to 7 till who knows when.

The bulk of iOS 10 update was iMessage and keyboard updates. On Android all that takes is a Play Store update. If Android updates were a priority to your friend he should have gotten a Nexus. I never bought my Galaxy S2 thinking it would get Nougat and on this so called "older" version it blows the doors off certain older iOS devices from 2015

 

[leroypants]

But..but...their OS updates are named after delicious things!

My four year old Android tablet on jelly bean can flawlessly play a 1080p mvk with dts audio while an iPhone 7 with iOS 10.2 struggles to play a 720p DD5 avi. It can also play games and almost all apps released today, unlike The iPhone which shuts out older versions of IOS in order to force users to update.

 

[whooleytoo]

I do my best to avoid iOS upgrades any more. On my previous iPhone and my iPad Air, things were initially fine after upgrading but performance degraded over time. Not significantly, but sluggish enough to be annoying.

My iPhone 6, on the other hand, is perfect, and I'll not upgrade the OS if I can avoid it. The problem is, apps are starting to have problems (quitting on launch, even after a phone reboot) probably due to not testing on older OSs. So I have to upgrade the OS at some point. Which will end up slowing the device and having to buy a new one at some point..

 

[Radon87000]

My four year old Android tablet on jelly bean can flawlessly play a 1080p mvk with dts audio while an iPhone 7 with iOS 10.2 struggles to play a 720p DD5 avi. It can also play games and almost all apps released today, unlike The iPhone which shuts out older versions of IOS in order to force users to update.

All for that beautiful marketing chart. I bet if they removed the percentage of devices which struggle with running iOS 10 we would have half the percentage that chart shows. At least the Android devices retain their speed when they are EOL

In addition that 1% running Nougat are the real flagship Android users and the percentage of flagships running Nougat would match the iOS chart

 

[sinsin07]

Guys, Android is NOT like iOS, where you have to have the latest version to get many useful features.

So when I can do everything I need to on my "old" OS (and more than I can on iOS), I see no (desperate) reason to upgrade.

And these iOS graphs mean nothing when Apple basically "forces" you to upgrade, and prohibits downgrading after a while.

Totally anecdotal and irrelevant.
The key phrase here:

So when I can do everything I need to on my "old" OS

 

[Icaras]

LOL at people here shocked of the revelation that newer, more advanced versions of an OS happen to slow down older devices. Stunning news.

I'm just as annoyed as the next guy that my iPhone 6 can sometimes run like sh*t with iOS 10.3, but with the exception of the very few "under the hood" type OS releases that are focused on optimization (Snow Leopard, Mountain Lion, El Capitan, iOS 8), this really shouldn't come to anyone's surprise.

 

[KALLT]

Not this high. The nag screens had a huge impact.

Based on what? Every iOS version since at least iOS 6 had an adoption rate of >90% at the end of its cycle. If the nag screens are that annoying, I would assume that the adoption would be significantly higher.

The bulk of iOS 10 update was iMessage and keyboard updates. On Android all that takes is a Play Store update.

No, that was certainly not ‘the bulk’. Android users lose out on all the non-service/app related enhancements to the system. Google cannot provide the complete package to ~99% of its users. They might as well stop developing Android proper and just focus on the services layer.

 

[gim]

My four year old Android tablet on jelly bean can flawlessly play a 1080p mvk with dts audio while an iPhone 7 with iOS 10.2 struggles to play a 720p DD5 avi. It can also play games and almost all apps released today, unlike The iPhone which shuts out older versions of IOS in order to force users to update.

You enjoy your games and videos, and also all the vulnerabilities and security issues, that an almost five-year old OS brings with it.

I won't even ask how incompetent one has to be to NOT properly play a 720p video on an iPhone 7.

 

[0029937]

it's funny that all these years, and all the information that's out there on how iOS and Android update, and work and the nature of the OS's,

you still believe that this is relevant in any way.

Hint.

It's not.

Android's Version adoption does NOT have the same impact on Android devices as iOS has on iPhone.

iOS requires constant iOS updates for many of it's core applications such as itunes, maps, etc. the nature of how the design works means that to update many of these core applications, an OS upgrade is required to get the new features and new versions of these core apps.


this is NOT TRUE in Android. Google has pulled applications out of the OS level and tied them to the version of google play services installed, and NOT the OS. Google Play Services is a seperate product from Android and can be installed/ upgraded / patched independantly from the OS via the Google Play store. This is also the same for all of Google's core Apps. They are not bound to the OS version, so what you find is that most modern applications (and google core applications) are compatible as far back as Android 4.0 without any hiccups.

Don't get me wrong, I think the current way android updates are handled, through OEM and carriers is a pain in the sphincter and sucks cold camel c... well, I'll just leave it at that. But to believe it has some magical "THIS IS BETTER BECAUSE EVERYONE IS ON CURRENT VERSION" truth? nahhhh. thats a fundamental misunderstanding of the differences between Operating Systems

Very will written and non-******* response. Well done sir. Severely lacking around here.

 

[npmacuser5]

I honestly feel like they make it run slower on the previous gen devices.

True but not intentional, the state of current technology development.

 

[smorrissey]

Most of the 16% of users on iOS 9 are not upgrading probably because many of them have 16g iOS devices and are full. Even if they are getting prompted with the upgrade message, they can't download and install the new iOS version OTA because their device is full. Most don't want to hook their device to a PC and do a back-up and update...

Not all, 64GB free here and i'm still on ios 9 because of the battery issues for iphone 6s users, ios 10 new features are a little more intensive on 6s devices regarding battery consumption, hope 10.3 finally solves that.

 

[Radon87000]

None of my updated devices are slower, in fact my 6s is flying on iOS 10, seemingly better than iOS 9. And I'm appreciative of iOS 9 on my iPad 2.

Why is it so hard for you to understand that our devices have been slowed down with consecutive iOS versions? Are you implying we are liars? Or is it Apple can do no wrong bcoz sales?

 

[Radon87000]

it's funny that all these years, and all the information that's out there on how iOS and Android update, and work and the nature of the OS's,

you still believe that this is relevant in any way.

Hint.

It's not.

Android's Version adoption does NOT have the same impact on Android devices as iOS has on iPhone.

iOS requires constant iOS updates for many of it's core applications such as itunes, maps, etc. the nature of how the design works means that to update many of these core applications, an OS upgrade is required to get the new features and new versions of these core apps.


this is NOT TRUE in Android. Google has pulled applications out of the OS level and tied them to the version of google play services installed, and NOT the OS. Google Play Services is a seperate product from Android and can be installed/ upgraded / patched independantly from the OS via the Google Play store. This is also the same for all of Google's core Apps. They are not bound to the OS version, so what you find is that most modern applications (and google core applications) are compatible as far back as Android 4.0 without any hiccups.

Don't get me wrong, I think the current way android updates are handled, through OEM and carriers is a pain in the sphincter and sucks cold camel c... well, I'll just leave it at that. But to believe it has some magical "THIS IS BETTER BECAUSE EVERYONE IS ON CURRENT VERSION" truth? nahhhh. thats a fundamental misunderstanding of the differences between Operating Systems

A very good explanation of things. People severely underestimate he power of Google play services and if Apple cared to show that chart people would find 90% of Android devices on the latest version

 

[Tycho24]

Its why Apple is the industry leader in smartphone planned obsolscence.

What a crock!
Just a blatant, outright lie.
To the contrary.... there is absolutely NO market for six year old Android phones; seriously- like you couldn't sell a Galaxy 1 for $5. However, there are iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S available for sale on Craigslist in virtually every location across the country.
The exact opposite of what you said is true.
Apple seek to compel you to buy the new phones w/ bells, whistles, colors, features, materials, design changes, storage upgrades, etc.... but their old devices are simply NOT obsolete.

 

[LordVic]

^^^Excellent.

Always wondered why the iOS core apps were not dynamically linked, and delivered separately, from the iOS kernel.

Your explanation of Google's independent app binding makes perfect sense (where each core app has a version of its own).

I wonder why Apple continues to wrap strong-bound core apps to their kernel. Apple's method would be equivalent to having macOS core apps (Mail, Safari, Photos, ...) wrapped with the macOS binary -- and, of course, those apps are not.

Thanks, LordVic.

There's some pluses and minuses to either approach that I can really think of

Google went their way as a reaction to not having control over the updates of Android handsets, but still wanting all their users to be able to use the latest and up to date Android applications. If you did use android back in 2-3, you will have frequently encountered issues where the OEM won't update your android version, which means you ended up stuck on oudated Google Services and google Apps. That doesn't help google. So they segmented them out. However, (i'm not 100% certain on this just yet, need mroe testing), doing this method can overall mean less compatibility between applications, Potential bugs (as they have to write messaging layers between Apps, rather than allow them to share a back end). They may require more resources, since as seperate apps, they require their own memory footprints instead of shared memory between some. Also potentially larger overall since each app would need to include more of it's own libraries, instead of shared core OS libraries, since the OS libraries themselves might not get updated on older versions.

with the iOS way. it's very tightnit and things work much smoother together (when they work). resourcing is less and things operate a lot smoother and quicker due to tie into the core and kernel. But, it means that those individual applications generally need to come bundled together as an OS update, rather than individual app updates. But since Apple does control the delivery of updates, they can get them out quickly and provide everyone access to them on day 1, but it does mean that if you need to update a single Application, you need to provide that update in the form of a full OS update, which is generally a more lengthy and involved process to install and deploy for apple (they have to QA a lot more since the update actually changes the OS).

I can't say that either one is "better", only that both have been designed around the companies focuses and limitations, and thus we have diverging paths on how each company handles it's core applications updates. at the end of the day, regardless if you're on iOS or Android, you will have up to date core apps if you keep your devices updated when necessary and this whole "segmentation" bullcrud that was talked about a decade ago is mostly irrelevant today.

 

[MrGuder]

I can confirm to anyone interested that as I mentioned before I'm still on 9.3.5 and have a 6s and no lag whatsoever everything works just like it did when I opened the box. It is part of the battery recall however my battery life is amazing, easily get 1.5 days

 

[elmaco]

Nice with (auto) update, but not for everybody. The iPad I gave to my Mum a few years back, updated itself last week and now she can't activate it. It's basically dead hardware, because of software update. She can't even request a new password, because some Apple-id account she had in the past had invalid characters in the e-mail address.

Now she has given it to me and I must try to fix it

This is starting feel like Windows all over again

 

[44267547]

I can confirm to anyone interested that as I mentioned before I'm still on 9.3.5 and have a 6s and no lag whatsoever everything works just like it did when I opened the box. It is part of the battery recall however my battery life is amazing, easily get 1.5 days

It still would be a good idea to take advantage of the battery replacement sooner than later. You can have it replaced the same day in your local Apple Store (I believe). Some Members were having great battery life with the 6s and then randomly were experiencing drainage issues.