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iOS 11.2 Beta 3 Introduces Pop-up to Explain Control Center Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Functionality
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Priceless point in Apple UI history.... when you have to have a dialog explaining why the UI won't do what you think it will do. LOL!
The good news... now that they've made Control Center hard to get to on the new iPhone X... they've made it much less useful, so you won't need to go there. Back to Unlock -> Settings -> WiFi -> Off/On.
Alternatively, can use hey Siri to turn off wifi.
And I remember the days when the 3.5" screen iPhone was unnecessarily big. Just how arrogent can Apple be trying to force feed that conditional and temporary (and craptastical) virtual keyboard down our thought? I remember the days when half of the phone was covered in a physical key keyboard because that's what you need to type as a business professional. Those were good times compared to the suckage we have to live with now.
Sorry, I mean -- it sucks until a competitor copies it. I mean, I was totally against the removal of the headphone jack until Google and Motoroloa followed suit. Now it's the wave of the future.
Yeah, Apple never do anything unpopular because they know best! Right? I mean that notch on the X is universally loved isn't it? Those who don't like it just don't appreciate asymmetry and a portion of their screens being beautifully interrupted by a black shape - I'm surprised all the TV companies haven't already adopted it on the side of their designs based on Apple's research!
As of now the first comment about not liking this new function on this thread has 99 likes, the first saying they like it has 26 likes - there's some research for you and that's from what is essentially an Apple fan site.
Yeah, in an ideal world not full of people daft as a brush. Not everyone knows exactly what features rely on BT or WiFi and they would automatically assume the device is faulty. Anyway, just out of curiosity.... why would people switch the BT OFF anyway? I thought the impact on battery life is minimal, no? On my device is never OFF. WiFi I keep toggling it ON/OFF all time.
I recognize it has some advantages for Apple, and for a few use-cases for users. That doesn't make it good UI. It's a horrible UI move.
Let me know when anyone but a few smart-phone makers drop analog audio jacks from their equipment.
And, please fill me in on how this is the 'wave of the future'. What's futuristic about it?
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I don't often use anything BT with my phone, so it stays off. That's better for security, battery life, and health. I also turn off the WiFi when not needed, though I often have to leave cellular on (so I can't just put it in airplane mode). So, now I'm either going to have to go through a bunch of extra steps, or start talking to my device.
Surely turning on Airplane mode from the Control Centre will be easier!!!!!
Airplane mode has to turn off Wireless and Bluetooth properly because airplanes insist upon it.
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Airplane mode has to turn off Wireless and Bluetooth properly because airplanes insist upon it.
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Why would it? I am sure Apple knows better than stupid users and airline regulation bodies. It probably only turns the "Airplane mode" symbol on these days, but leaves all radio transmitters on.
Yes, that's the easiest thing to turn everything off (same as it was before). The problem is if you want either cellular or WiFi turned off, but the other remaining on (or BT). I do this several times per day, each day. For me, Apple just removed the convenience of Control Center.
My apologies then. I re-read and I got it wrong, buddy.
No worries I’ve made the same mistake many times myself
Yes, we all seen just how great a feature that was. Just about ever iOS MDM platform suggests disabling this or has it disabled by default. Apple is stubborn sometimes so this “feature” is still in settings unfortunately.
typical Apple-like solution. Don't offer you a way how you can disable this silly functionality, just display a popup description which solves completely nothing .. cause they always know what is the best for you :-/ This is exactly one of the reasons why people tend to Jailbreak their phones, literally to fix something what has not been design well. Unfortunately JB is dying lately.
In a nutshell: Apples fantastic marketing department >>>> MacRumors know-it-all crybabies.
Apple is right. “Apple is doomed” arguments are laughable. Still think you can do it better, apply for a job, amazing UI designers.
(The sad part is that I can’t even say “get an Android” because WiFi and Bluetooth work like that on android too...)
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FFS, MacRumors forums are a biased sample of complainers.
Apple is right. “Apple is doomed” arguments are laughable. Still think you can do it better, apply for a job, amazing UI designers.
(The sad part is that I can’t even say “get an Android” because WiFi and Bluetooth work like that on android too...)
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Yeah, Apple never do anything unpopular because they know best! Right? I mean that notch on the X is universally loved isn't it? Those who don't like it just don't appreciate asymmetry and a portion of their screens being beautifully interrupted by a black shape - I'm surprised all the TV companies haven't already adopted it on the side of their designs based on Apple's research!
As of now the first comment about not liking this new function on this thread has 99 likes, the first saying they like it has 26 likes - there's some research for you and that's from what is essentially an Apple fan site.
FFS, MacRumors forums are a biased sample of complainers.
I think I finally get the poor decision now after reading through this thread (ignoring the worshippers who can only praise Apple), I think it's all about the iWatch and bluetooth headphones (that were another thing forced upon Apple users), that's the only reason it really makes sense to me at least. They should ideally be on their own locked protocol and that would solve any conflicting bluetooth functionality for other means... I may be wrong but that seems the most obvious reason for the change. Annoying for those of us who don't use the watch or the headphones though...
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Macrumours is more full of people like yourself, fanboys, than anyone else. There are some trolls no doubt, many "normal" users like myself who own iPhones, iPads and iMacs but don't blindly praise everything Apple do. Twist it all you like but the most liked comment here is one criticising the functionality, if Apple change it back you'd be praising them for that too.
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I didn't like the Toggle changes at first but I've grown to appreciate the new way.
To turn Wi-Fi off completely I ask Siri.
To turn Wi-Fi off completely I ask Siri.
When riding the bus to and from work, I'm constantly prompted to connect to a network on a default name that you can't disable. I also toggle wifi a half dozen times a day because our office wifi uses two hotspots and if you walk across the office you stay connected to the further one and have crappy reception unless you do that. Oh, and third parties can track your location and habits based on your device scanning for networks and hitting theirs.
And I use Bluetooth once a day to unlock the office door. Not for anything else. Why would I want to be broadcasting constantly the rest of the time? It feels like a privacy and even a potential security issue.
And yeah, battery. With a hundred odd Bluetooth devices broadcasting in a small space (because of mice, keyboards, headphones, and more), bluetooth on vs. off is the difference between 85% battery remaining or 35% remaining when I leave work at the end of the day.
I've been a long time stalker of these forums, and one thing I've noticed over the years is that there's no shortage of people like yourself who vehemently hate when Apple changes things. For example, removal of the headphone jack (which you've hinted about being against in your complaint about bluetooth headphones being "forced" upon you (???)), FaceID, Notch, MacBook Touchbar, removal of MacBook ports etc have all been met with overall negative comments by this community. Based on that, you'd think Apple would be suffering. Yet in the real world, these things have made no impact on sales, proving that they just don't matter to the general population. I wouldn't consider any popular opinion on these forums a representation of what Apple's user base really cares about. Furthermore, I'd go so far as to say that when people get upset about something on these forums, it's clear that Apple is pushing the envelope. I'm not saying that always leads to something better per se, but we can certainly say that if nothing ever changes then innovation is not happening.
This new feature is extremely polarising, but one thing that's painfully obvious is that it's better for normal users, and worse for powerusers. A normal user will turn off WiFi because it's not working, and end up chewing through their LTE data because they forget to turn it back on. A normal user will turn off bluetooth because they read an article from 2007 that said it wastes battery, then call Apple support because their watch/pencil doesn't work. You claim to be a normal user yet you understand these things, and you also want to have fine control over WiFi and Bluetooth? Sorry to break this to you, but you're a poweruser.
I too am a poweruser, and want fine control over WiFi and Bluetooth. So I personally don't like this feature. But I can understand how this is infinitely better for the average person who has no real idea about the implications of turning WiFI or Bluetooth off. It has nothing to do with blind praise or being a troll.
However, Apple could solve this by using 3D touch, allowing both camps to have exactly what they want. That they haven't done this boggles the mind.
It is when I am trying to get a waze route, so I can leave.
Even assuming this to be true, it still does not mean the change was a good choice. If people were often using the off/on-switch just to disconnect from a network, then because people often find themselves in a situation where they want to get off a network, and that switch was the most convenient way to do so.
That is a good argument for introducing a "disconnect-from-current-network"-button. It is not a good argument for removing established functionality and replacing it with a messy almost-3-way-button (it does show "off", after all, but you cannot turn it off once it is on) that looks like the old one but does something else. And apparently the result is sufficiently confusing that Apple now sees the need to patch things up with an educational popup. (I wonder why their research did not indicate the need for this popup already before the introduction of iOS 11.)
I get your points and yes, people don't like change. People still buy iPhones in particular because they've used iPhones for ages and continue to do so. I've got an iPhone SE because I work in audio and need a 3.5mm jack if I'm testing with the phone, Bluetooth headphones ARE forced on new users simply by the omission of the 3.5mm port, unless they want dongles/no ability to charge and use wired headphones. I don't generally think people are as keen on BT headphones that are more easily lost on the move and are another device that need charging.
The power user point I disagree on though, based on my own experience EVERY iPhone user I know has complained about the new functionality of the WiFi/Bluetooth toggle. Every single one. I know because they say "WTF has happened since this crappy update, my BT/WiFi keeps coming back on!" - they ask me about it as the techy Apple person, these are all "normal", non-techy types. How very generous of Apple to nanny usage and help forgetful people who need assistance remembering to turn it back on. I know of no-one complaining about the old functionality though, they were happy with it. The option should be there for it to operate as you please or at least long/3D press as you and many of us are saying! I can only think Apple doesn't want that - probably because of Bluetooth watch/headphone use.
All those iPhone users I know are all expressing growing frustration with Apple though, while people aren't leaving in droves yet it's the first I've known many to be actively considering other options strongly, including myself. I don't like large phones so the SE is my best option at present, having seen the first leaks of the next iPhones all being larger options I'm not holding out a great deal of hope for staying with Apple long term though, it's just a shame there aren't many great smaller options available.
Steve Jobs didn't want the pencil? When did he say that? Are you referring the stylus comment on the original iPhone keynote? That's the context, a phone. And today Apple never makes a phone with a stylus. As for the pencil, it IS an optional accessory for the iPad Pros. The iPad is completely usable on its own without the pencil. Contrary to other older devices with stylus, they require the stylus for proper function due to the tech used (eg. resistive touch screen, UI needing pin point accuracy).
So I don't see any contradictions from what Apple is doing with and after Steve Jobs. The idea is still democratizing technology by designing it for the mere mortals, not tech geeks.
This move is a hostile attack against 3rd parties. Its really that simple, the only devices allowed to stay connected to the phone when wife/Bluetooth are turned 'off' are apple device, wonder why? Furthermore the behavior you described isn't fully addressed by this change. If I just wanted to disconnect from a network, I can turn wifi off, bt off, and then switch it back on. This change turns it off temporarily, and for an arbitrary period of time. If I want to connect to a different network, I still have to toggle the switch back on. If I'm worried about data usage, I still have to remember to reconnect to wifi until the next morning.
This change is hostile, and the direct opposite of simple. If it was simple, it wouldn't need a warning.
You’re wrong. Bluetooth should save, at most, 3%. Your Bluetooth is not actively searching to be paired if it is “disconnected” from Control Center. Keep spreading pseudo-scientific statements if you wish though.
[doublepost=1510665501][/doublepost]It's how we're being tracked by the government. They want to know our every move. Every phone has GPS that never turns off.
Yet another reason to switch... I hate this new "feature"!! WhenI turn it off I want it OFF when I turn it ON then and only then do I want it on! I used to Jailbreak my fone to add the control panel, then Apple smartly added it into the OS now they just go and **** IT UP! like everything else they seem to do these day. macOS and iOS nether are a shell of their former selves!