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Some people will defend anything Apple-related. If Apple released a circular phone you’d buy it in a hearbeat... and before you accuse me of being a Fandroid; I use an iPhone and a Macbook Pro
 
Anyone arguing with apple that is is a "feature" is delusional!

OFF should = OFF and ON should = ON. Period.

If Apple wants to build in some kind of "AUTO" option for all the tech illiterate users out there, that's great. But to change the basic function of an ON/OFF switch to anything but ON/OFF is misleading, deceptive and dangerous! The toggles shouldn't even exist if they are not going to do what they represent they do.:mad:

Completely agree. Funny how we get this new 'feature' right after all the Cell companies switch to unlimited standard plans.

Im still extremely angry that I cant download uploads for apps over LTE that are more that 150MB in size. Thats utterly absurd. I PAY FOR THAT DATA.
 
So the rest of us have to adapt to what you want? When a simple setting toggle or long press/force touch would give everyone what they want? Hmm
So basically the new options are fine with you it's just an additional control for 3D Touch that could be added to make it all better.
 
Some people will defend anything Apple-related. If Apple released a circular phone you’d buy it in a hearbeat... and before you accuse me of being a Fandroid; I use an iPhone and a Macbook Pro

Are you implying Apple made this change out of… spite? Incompetence? Malice?
 
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LOL OK.... surrrrrreeee. Yeah, you are soooo correct. Having 2 antennas broadcasting DOes nOt drain extra batter.. uummkkkaaayy.

The fact that you think "antennas" are "broadcasting" on a client device just shows how little you know about the technology. 10 years ago, mobile wifi and bluetooth chipsets used a noticeable amount of energy when idle but not off, but that's not the case in modern chipsets. Today, their idle usage is measured in mere milliwatts, with much of this efficiency being the result of far better power gating and chipsets being fabbed on a much smaller process than they were 5-10 years ago. Additionally, with the functionality Apple added, even when they're still technically on, they are no longer listening for new wifi SSIDs or other unpaired Bluetooth devices, so the idle usage is even lower.

You are not being saturated by your device in your pocket within 5mm to your skin with other antennas, now are you?

You might want to research the effects of radiation and antennas from your cell phones before responding like fake news.

There have been numerous studies on cellular and other microwave level radiation, and no conclusive link to any ill health effects has ever been found. The closest thing they found to anything was local warming of body tissues closest to the device's antenna, to the tune of a fraction of a degree. And before you get started on "but cancer!" and all that stuff, microwave radiation is non-ionizing. About the only thing it can do is warm matter, if emitted at a significant enough energy level.

Both of your responses are false, SORRY.



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But to change the basic function of an ON/OFF switch to anything but ON/OFF is misleading, deceptive and dangerous!
To be fair, most on/off switches these days aren't really turning the device off - think of things like TVs and such, where "off" is really "enter low power mode and wait for a request to power back up" - they're more like sleep/wake switches (if they actually powered off the device, you couldn't wake it with a remote). That ship sailed long ago. Apple really should make long-press or force-touch be a real "shut the wifi/bt radio down" operation, but the current situation is really just extending the "go to low power mode" concept to another part of the device.
 
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People worried about battery, Apple has feature for that, it is called low battery mode...
 

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Dear lord... How many times does one need to explain that keeping WiFi off makes you use your GPS for location, instead, which is much more battery intensive?

So you’re saying you can use WiFi to find your location in the middle of the desert? Then why even provide a GPS on the iPhone? lol
You NEED the GPS for location, unless you stay at home all day
 
I never get an answer in these threads. What problem are you trying to solve by turning off Wi-Fi?

Being tracked? Apple already anonymizes your MAC address.

Battery life? It has no noticeable effect. If anything, lack of Wi-Fi means the far battery-hungrier GPS will kick in more often.

Radiation? No scientific basis.

My city is full of Telekom Hotspots but half of them do not even work yet my iPhone keeps trying to connect and while doing so it kills my mobile internet. I have to manually disable it everytime it finds a hotspot in reach
 
BINGO!

I posted this just yesterday in another thread that Apple would NEED to make a blurb about this function since their using Standards based icons and the standard understanding for any platform is if a switch is OFF it's OFF. Apple is using standards yet going their own way without properly informing the user.

About time. I STILL want it to be OFF when I toggle the BT/Wi-Fi switch OFF.

This is NOT by design based on standards for what these icons represent NOR for what hey actually did in previous IOS versions prior to ver 11.

Apple this is Assinine!

Get either with the F program and fix this. Apple is supposed to bring simplicity to computing not complexity such as this. Unless Apple explicitly tags the icon with “disconnect” everyone will presume by standards functioning that it’s meant to turn off the Wi-Fi or Bluetooth radios.

E.g. the power button on a Mac or Windows computer under normal power modes by default will Power off or shut down or present a range of options: Shut Down, Sleep maybe even Lock. These of course can be user changed in settings or system preferences but by default again by computing standards will act upon what is expected.

Craig and his team need a kick in the nads going opposite on this.
 
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So you’re saying you can use WiFi to find your location in the middle of the desert? Then why even provide a GPS on the iPhone? lol
You NEED the GPS for location, unless you stay at home all day
That doesn't change anything about what was said.
 
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For cripes sake, Apple.

I really, really wish they'd finally go the Android route and give users a choice as to what the toggles do. By default, they can do the "until tomorrow" functionality, but with another option in settings of changing them to "actually OFF mode".
 
So you’re saying you can use WiFi to find your location in the middle of the desert? Then why even provide a GPS on the iPhone? lol
You NEED the GPS for location, unless you stay at home all day

Not true. Every wifi that has been connected to by an iPhone Apple knows the location of it. They use this information to figure out your rough location. Now if you are driving with maps open it is going use your gps.
 
So you’re saying you can use WiFi to find your location in the middle of the desert? Then why even provide a GPS on the iPhone? lol
You NEED the GPS for location, unless you stay at home all day
Omg, how much ignorance in a single tread. Please, do your research before saying something like this. WiFi chips improve accuracy of location no matter if you’re connected to a network or not - there is a whole database of rough locations of every single WiFi in main cities. So, considering you’re not a hermit in the desert, your GPS will be used much, much less if you’re walking anywhere remotely populated with available (password protected or not) WiFi networks.
Repeat with me: toggling WiFi off is a waste of battery.
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Personally, the change to WiFi in Control Center is fine. It should have been more plainly evident from the beginning, but I find that the new functionality of that buttons works better for me.

As for that line under the right-ear on the iPhone X to indicate Control Center is there. No. Just No. Please No.
 
My city is full of Telekom Hotspots but half of them do not even work yet my iPhone keeps trying to connect and while doing so it kills my mobile internet. I have to manually disable it everytime it finds a hotspot in reach
Have you heard of “do not auto connect” on Settings.app?
[doublepost=1510604888][/doublepost]Do your research in WiFi and GPS battery use. WiFi reduces battery draining by GPS. That’s reality no matter how much you may deny it. Feel free to believe in urban myths if you want to, though - to each their own.
Could you care to share with us that proof, research, test data or whatever they've done to reach that conclusion? This is a genuine request. I would like to know.
 
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So you’re saying you can use WiFi to find your location in the middle of the desert? Then why even provide a GPS on the iPhone? lol
You NEED the GPS for location, unless you stay at home all day

GPS is only used when necessary.

When possible, Wi-Fi is used for location services, because it is fast and sufficiently precise.

As a fallback, cell tower trilateration is used.

And then there's GPS. GPS is very slow (it can take up to 14.5 minutes to get a full signal lock) and more battery-intensive than Wi-Fi and LTE. It is, however, quite precise, and also adds altitude info (which has become less relevant due to barometers).

In most cases, Core Location will not use GPS.
 
Nobody wants this and nobody requested it. This is a classic example of way overthinking a non issue and making the non issue become an issue that now requires a freaking pop up to not really explain what is happening. Since when is requiring a pop up "improving the user experience"?

Whoever came up with this hair brained idea should be demoted or fired. There's problems in Cupertino....
 
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Nobody wants this and nobody requested it. This is a classic example of way overthinking a non issue and making the non issue become an issue that now requires a freaking pop up to not really explain what is happening. Since when is requiring a pop up "improving the user experience"?

Whoever came up with this hair brained idea should be demoted or fired. There's problems in Cupertino....
I love it. Many people love it. Market research by the largest stock corporation in the world surely knows better than your best guess, right? Just being realistic here.
 
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