Haha right, crippled in a few months. You guys crack me up. Batteries go bad. If you happen to have a battery that has gone bad, either replace it or throttle your phone so it can last longer. Stop crying like Apple owes you something.
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iOS 11.3 Will Allow iPhone Users to View Battery Health and Disable Apple's Power Management This Spring
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Haha right, crippled in a few months. You guys crack me up. Batteries go bad. If you happen to have a battery that has gone bad, either replace it or throttle your phone so it can last longer. Stop crying like Apple owes you something.
Or a feature that tells you it's time to buy a new damn battery rather than slow your iPhone to a crawl while the Apple Support shrugs and says "oh your iphone is just old, buy a new one"
Seriously, I dont get you Apple fans defending apple. This was clearly stupid (or slimy) on Apple's part. How would you feel being told by Apple Support to buy a new phone when it turns out Apple had just slowed the iPhone down??
One does wonder why Apple didn't take the universally known battery degradation into account when designing the CPU's power requirements and tolerances.
It used to be visible using a 3rd party app but Apple removed the cycles/battery health since iOS10
Stop talking sense.
No it won't. The only way that would happen is if a very large percentage of devices had this issue, resulting in a significant number of people upgrading. If it's only a small percentage (most likely, but we'll have to wait until the court cases to see), then it won't have any effect on upgrades.
Besides, MR posters keep saying Apple made iOS 11 intentionally slow to get people to upgrade. So which is it?
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They did. Apple can't account for 1 out of x batteries actually failing (which all lithium batteries are susceptible to).
The only thing Apple did wrong was not tell people what was happening. This is now going to be corrected. And they dropped the price of batteries to $29.
What else do you want them to do? Give you a new $1,000 phone for all the pain and suffering you've gone through?
You do realise that if you are one of those whose phone is been throttled, turning that off will probably lead to the phone not finishing the benchmarks and restarting without notice etc?
What Apple did was offer a software bandage to a physical problem...
The only way to get back performance and functionality as when out of the box is to replace the battery.
And in case of a good battery it HAS BEEN PROVEN that Apple doesn't throttle the phones.
For all those saying people will be upset about their random shutdowns, I don't think that's fair. I've experienced the unexpected shutdowns with my 6 Plus prior to the throttling update. It only happened when I was around 30% battery. So my phone functioned normally the majority of the day, and if I let it get down that low, it might be a problem then. Plus, if they are to be believed, Apple says only peak performance causes throttling now, so only peak performance should cause a random shutdown if throttling is off. Tim said he'd hate it if you were making an emergency call or have to send an emergency text and your phone shut down. So making a call and sending a text are peak performance situations? I believe throttling is on all the time for me, no matter what, but I'm anxious to see how my phone functions with throttling off. Maybe my battery has degraded that much that it can't provide the voltage required for even small things anymore.
Also, I assume throttling will be ON by default, so people will have to search out this option to turn it off, and I'm sure Apple will have a warning or description of what could happen when it's turned off. People will be informed. Some of you act like this update will turn off throttling and everyone's phones will be turning off left and right without explanation. If people start experiencing shutdowns and are unhappy, they know where to go to turn it back on since they've turned it off.
It's surprising that some people are so against choice. We already had a toggle for low power mode, I don't understand why this is seen as so different from that choice that was already given.
If my phone goes back to full speed and it only restarts unexpectedly around 30%, sign me up. I've been using a battery case for over a year anyway to try and get through the day. I'm also throttled when plugged in, which is crazy. If i'm using a battery case and my phone itself is effectively at 100% all day anyway, with the option to turn throttling off I'm hoping it just returns to even 75% of what it was when I bought it.
Also, I assume throttling will be ON by default, so people will have to search out this option to turn it off, and I'm sure Apple will have a warning or description of what could happen when it's turned off. People will be informed. Some of you act like this update will turn off throttling and everyone's phones will be turning off left and right without explanation. If people start experiencing shutdowns and are unhappy, they know where to go to turn it back on since they've turned it off.
It's surprising that some people are so against choice. We already had a toggle for low power mode, I don't understand why this is seen as so different from that choice that was already given.
If my phone goes back to full speed and it only restarts unexpectedly around 30%, sign me up. I've been using a battery case for over a year anyway to try and get through the day. I'm also throttled when plugged in, which is crazy. If i'm using a battery case and my phone itself is effectively at 100% all day anyway, with the option to turn throttling off I'm hoping it just returns to even 75% of what it was when I bought it.
Public beta testers test the software to iron out bugs. ASAP means "as soon as possible." Not literally at this second.
How about not throttle a phone in the first damn place without telling me?
My 3gs, 4s iPhones crashed all the time when the battery got old. Guess what, I LIKED IT THAT WAY. Because then I knew "Oh sh*t my battery is dying, better go buy a replacement."
And yes, if I had fallen for the support people who told me it was time to buy a new iphone I would expect some sort of monetary compensation. If you feel otherwise I guess you don't have a problem being misled and spending money on something you didn't need...
You obviously don't understand the issue.
The battery throttling issue effects EVERY iPhone (of the relevant models). Once your battery falls below the threshold from normal use (and recharge) it will throttle your phone. The only question is WHEN not IF it will be throttled. For many people it be within 2 years. (those posting a 'few months' incorrectly believe hyperbole helps their argument)
People aren't upset about the occasional manufacturer defective battery which is unavoidable.
People are upset the Apple didn't adjust the battery and/or the CPU design so that it continued to operate normally after a relatively short time window because of a well known issue with batteries degrading over time. (commonly referred to as manufacturing tolerances)
But hey those leaps in CPU power look great on the keynote graph right?
Well said. We need to give up though trying to explain this in the forum. I am a big Apple fan, but the Apple fans in this forum are at a whole other level in their need to defend Apple on this issue.
Tesla has long warranty for batteries. If anything happens to the batteries before that, they will replace it. Same with iPhones. The batteries in iPhones have warranty of 1 year. If anything happens before that they replace it under warranty. All this conspiracy theory angle is just ridiculous.
Well written
Also, just go get a battery replacement. It was great how long my 6+ lasted again with a new battery.
No it doesn't, just more lies without proof. I have numerous devices that ARE NOT throttled, and have posted the benchmarks for them as proof. How is this possible? Did I get magical batteries that somehow don't degrade over time?
What is this threshold that causes throttling? I'll be eagerly awaiting you to provide us with a number, since you obviously know more than the rest of us (maybe you're an engineer at Apple?).
It will be good/interesting to see what my “actual” battery health is. My iPhone was throttled, my battery life was abysmal, but Apple diagnosis said I was 83% healthy. Why did I ne s throttling with my healthy battery?
Gee, didn't I just say that's what Apple did wrong (not telling people)?
Where's your proof Apple Support is telling people to buy a new iPhone? I don't buy this for a minute. What support personnel are allowed to tell customers (for any company, not just Apple) is strictly controlled. No company wants to open themselves up to a lawsuit or be on the hook for something a customer support person tells them or promised them. This is why they typically follow scripts - to keep them out of trouble.
Uh read my signature...they told me multiple times for my 6+ it's "Old" so performance isnt great and a new phone would correct it. I can grant you they were trying to be helpful and not part of a standard "script" but it still was done, and done all over the place.
I've said it since the beginning. Apple should have just let people's phones with bad batteries die. It would have avoided this whole issue.
Yep, just like they used to! Was a great way of knowing the battery needed replacement.
Imagine you have a phone that seems very slow, much slower than when you first purchased it, but you aren't sure why. You realize you aren't getting the battery life you did when it was new, but have no idea that your battery health impacts the speed of the phone itself (most people). Maybe you bring it to Apple and you pass diagnostics, you're told to restore the phone or any other options, but nothing seems to help. Your two choices are ... live with this slower version of your phone, or buy a new phone. If it was common knowledge a battery replacement would restore performance, I'm sure many people who ended up buying new phones would have opted for a battery replacement over a new phone.
I'm not saying this was all some nefarious plan by Apple, but by throttling and not telling consumers (which all of us agree is one of the main issues here, the lack of transparency), one of the results was people buying new phones that otherwise would have been battery replacements instead if they had that knowledge, even if it wasn't intended.
And since you always ask for proof deanthedev ...
https://investorplace.com/2018/01/apple-inc-battery-replacement-program-cost-iphone-sales/
That's not a small percentage ... and I imagine would represent a lot of lost new iPhone sales over a two-three year period if the battery situation was common knowledge since the iPhone 6.