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Why do you hope they figure a way around this?
I care a lot about encrypting my data traffic with no backdoors because of hackers going after money. But this security measure is only for protecting against those with physical access, who are mostly going to be law enforcement.

So in almost all cases, this just makes crime harder to fight. IDK what other case there is. Hackers breaking into stolen phones to read text messages and look for personal info in them? It's unlikely.

It's not about theoretical security either; the data is still only encrypted with 10^5 entropy in the end, and hardware protections are only security through obscurity (aka bogus). If you're really concerned, lock your stuff with a 20-digit alphanumeric code, cause that's the only way.

For those wanting to get all ideological about this, police can look at your home, mail, and phone calls with a warrant. I don't see why this is any different.
 
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I love that instead of caving to our corrupt government who wants backdoor access to everyone's devices, Apple's doubling down and making it even harder. Take that, party of "limited government interference".

Yeah, there are never any reasons for the government to need access. Certainly not thousands of children molested and their exploited photos traded around with pedophiles. There's no white collar crime or terrorism in the world. Yup, you've got it, there's never a good reason that they may need to access a device. Never.
 
After reading all the comments... WHAT SORT OF STUFF ARE YOU ALL HIDING IN YOUR PHONES?

What are you so scared of?
Personal stuff. No one needs to see my personal photos, my email addresses, contacts, and others.

“Arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say.”- Edward Snowden
 
So why not default to require a passcode to allow USB access... as in, a 0 second expiry. Then once enabled, it becomes a 24 hour lease while attached.
 
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Hmm... while I think the situation I described is likely to be rare, you may have people who have an iPad that they use rarely, and also it is likely to be more common than someone trying to hack your phone/device.

You bring up a good point. Many consumers have ditched notebooks and desktops altogether. But most people still have a notebook or at least access to one.
 
Yeah, there are never any reasons for the government to need access. Certainly not thousands of children molested and their exploited photos traded around with pedophiles. There's no white collar crime or terrorism in the world. Yup, you've got it, there's never a good reason that they may need to access a device. Never.

You can attempt to argue with me all you want. I'm not going to engage. I'm just glad Apple is on the right side.
 
An unintended downside: imagine you have a close friend or family member pass away. You/their family want to access their devices afterwards for photos, remembrance, information about their final days, etc. Absent the biometric and passcode (which I am assuming you don't have) you will need the cord access to get in. With a billion devices out there, I am thinking this will happen more frequently than the law enforcement access it is intended to prevent.

And to anyone who wonders why this would even be necessary, I submit you have not suddenly lost a loved one. Not uncommon to go looking for answers or solace in their devices, notify friends of the passing, etc. Asking people to try to get in there within 7 days isn't always realistic or feasible.

If you knew their Apple ID password or a way to get it, you could get to their photos possibly by logging into iCloud or their computer/Mac, right?
 
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Yeah, there are never any reasons for the government to need access. Certainly not thousands of children molested and their exploited photos traded around with pedophiles. There's no white collar crime or terrorism in the world. Yup, you've got it, there's never a good reason that they may need to access a device. Never.
...the FBI RAN a child porn website as a honeypot for months.
 
But what happens if your phone battery died and it's been 7 days for instance you lost your phone and found it later you couldn't plug it in in order to use your passcode? I guess those case would be rare.
You would plug it in to charge, and once charged you'd unlock it with your passcode.
 
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When you restore a phone from a backup, you by definition wipe the phone beforehand. Presumably wiping an iPhone by putting it into DFU mode should still be possible (and reactivate the Lightning port).
I hadn't thought of DFU mode. Considering DFU mode is more low-level than Recovery, it should still be possible to restore a device that way. Would be nice if someone running the beta could check on that and make sure.
 
Yeah, there are never any reasons for the government to need access. Certainly not thousands of children molested and their exploited photos traded around with pedophiles. There's no white collar crime or terrorism in the world. Yup, you've got it, there's never a good reason that they may need to access a device. Never.

I’d rather live in a world with some bad people here and there than living in 1984.
 
So why not default to require a passcode to allow USB access... as in, a 0 second expiry. Then once enabled, it becomes a 24 hour lease while attached.
iTunes syncing, Xcode dev, etc
They could have it as an option, but you know Apple wouldn't do that.
 
That isn't the point, the point is we should have the right to privacy.

Let me give you some advice then...don't go outside. A little known secret is...there are camera's everywhere!

Oh, and stay off the internet, also. And use only over-the-air for television as "they" track what you watch. ;)
 
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Reread the thing you just quoted

I did. It was unclear which is why it was questioned.

His statement was:

"Myself. I've worked in computer forensics and helped create tech to unlock iPhones as far back as 2008."

So the date of the forensics piece was unclear... he has since clarified.

When somebody says X and Y since Z, X and Y both apply to the reference point of Z ;)
 
Let me give you some advice then...don't go outside. A little known secret is...there are camera's everywhere!

Don't go online either. MacRumors and nearly every other site use Google Analytics, which means everything you're doing is being recorded. What pages you visit, what links you click, how long you're on each page, and much more. All recorded to a nice tidy profile about everything you're doing. And then you use Google Maps to get directions and the GPS functionality so they know where you went and when.
 
I’d rather live in a world with some bad people here and there than living in 1984.

Do you feel the same way about denying law enforcement access to a criminal suspect's home, car, storage unit, workplace, bank safe deposit box, etc looking for evidence, when a search warrant based on probable cause and signed by a judge, is obtained and presented?
 
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I don’t get not updating. Security issues are out there, and I think KRACK was patched sometime in 11?



Plug it in, charge it, and put in your passcode to unlock it. It doesn’t cut off charging it, just data transfer until the device is unlocked.
OIC THANKS!
 
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