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I don’t get not updating. Security issues are out there, and I think KRACK was patched sometime in 11?

If the updates weren't such a gamble in terms of stability, bugs, and performance, maybe it wouldn't be such a tough choice.
 
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This is definitely a move in the right direction, but it should also let the user set a setting that tells it to automatically wipe the phone securely if automated attempts are made towards hacking the code/password on the phone.
 
So if I forget my passcode and get locked out after 7 days I’m assuming this means I have a brick and can’t even restore it and wipe all data?

I suspect the vulcan neck pinch to get into DFU mode still works. But DFUing and reloading your phone will (probably?) wipe it... and then you still have activation lock to deal with.
 
I have two of the cheaper iPads that I use when I travel that I don't even access for weeks!
This might be a problem for me.
Not really, you just have to enter your PIN or Touch ID to regain access, basically all this does is prevent someone from entering it remotely.
 
I don’t get not updating. Security issues are out there, and I think KRACK was patched sometime in 11?
KRACK isn't a huge deal due to application-layer encryption. Anyone relying on wifi encryption for security has serious problems regardless. But yes, updates are generally important enough that I install them even though they ruin my phone.
 
What happens if you go away on holiday for two weeks and leave your phone behind by accident. Is it a brick on your return or will your standard passcode unlock it after charging?
 
What happens if you go away on holiday for two weeks and leave your phone behind by accident. Is it a brick on your return or will your standard passcode unlock it after charging?

No. Are you not bothering to read? This question has been asked numerous times by folks who aren't bothering to read the article.

This ONLY impacts sending DATA over Lightning. It does not in any way shape for form prevent the iPhone from charging.
 
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An unintended downside: imagine you have a close friend or family member pass away. You/their family want to access their devices afterwards for photos, remembrance, information about their final days, etc. Absent the biometric and passcode (which I am assuming you don't have) you will need the cord access to get in. With a billion devices out there, I am thinking this will happen more frequently than the law enforcement access it is intended to prevent.

And to anyone who wonders why this would even be necessary, I submit you have not suddenly lost a loved one. Not uncommon to go looking for answers or solace in their devices, notify friends of the passing, etc. Asking people to try to get in there within 7 days isn't always realistic or feasible.

I’ve been there. With them having just died moments before. People calling their cell phone and texting. And responding to the messages asking them to call so we can explain the situation.

After all the family and friends were aware, we updated their Facebook with a simple note. Because messages kept pouring in.

If the device had been locked down too tightly, we wouldn’t have been able to speak with his wife who was out of state. And she would have had to contact us, which might have been months since they weren’t on daily speaking terms. A separation, but still trying.

So that could have delayed a lot of important things. Because we didn’t have her contact info.

I was there immediately to handle the police and investigation and console my grandmother and mother (his mother and sister). And I watched as those calls and texts came in. And fortunately was before biometric and such. So we turned off the lock feature so we could continue letting the other side of the family know. And his friends.

Otherwise people would have assumed he was just ignoring them.

I do get the reasons that device security is increased. But yes, in those moments, access is necessary to be able to get final arrangements made (and to let important people in their lives know).

It’s not about snooping for information when it’s a loved one. It’s about handling their final affairs. Giving closure. Etc.

Imagine someone’s wife finding out that her husband is dead after he’s already been cremated. Just because they’re separated, doesn’t mean there isn’t love. It is only unfortunate that they were unable to work things out before he died. He loved her. And from what I understand, I believe she still cared.

We kept his phone charged, and answered calls for a few weeks. And then put it away. It’s the right thing to do, to allow others the closure.

The sad thing with our new digital world, is that when we pass, all of our profiles will remain up and look like we’re just not answering. And I think in a way, it’s good to leave them up. But to be able to attach a note is good.

For example, if you don’t have my passwords, then I have to manually authorize a profile comment someone may try to post on my Facebook.

If I die, the only way you’re notifying my friends or family (depending on who I’m with at the time) is if you can get into my phone or computer.

I don’t have a handwritten log of contact information for anyone anymore.
 
But up above you claimed the FBI hosted pornography: "They HOSTED child porn."

Which is not true.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...sharing-thousands-child-porn-images/79108346/

http://thedailyhaze.com/fbi-hosted-tor-child-pornography/

https://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/...-site-ruled-invalid-due-to-incorrect-warrant/

https://www.wired.com/2013/09/freedom-hosting-fbi/
Court documents clearly say otherwise.

These are all from a two minute search while driving. Again if you cared about the topic you would look into it instead of insisting I spoon feed you what you could simply open another tab to find. I’m done. The FBI hosted child pornograpphy for years, the court documents show that to be the case, end of story.
 
My security is better. I got a flip phone from 2004 with no battery or SIM. Good luck getting useful data off of that.

Just keep in mind that any cell phone can still be used as a tracking device and that all calls and SMS messages can be intercepted.

I’d just recommend using a smartphone with Signal installed which encrypts both calls and messages and getting a faraday bag to prevent it from being used as a tracking device, at least when you’re not using it.
 
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...sharing-thousands-child-porn-images/79108346/

http://thedailyhaze.com/fbi-hosted-tor-child-pornography/

https://siliconangle.com/blog/2016/...-site-ruled-invalid-due-to-incorrect-warrant/

https://www.wired.com/2013/09/freedom-hosting-fbi/
Court documents clearly say otherwise.

These are all from a two minute search while driving. Again if you cared about the topic you would look into it instead of insisting I spoon feed you what you could simply open another tab to find. I’m done. The FBI hosted child pornograpphy for years, the court documents show that to be the case, end of story.

Relax. The ARS link you first shared up above did not corroborate your assertion. Why not?
 
Nice! Now would be even nicer if it was shorter then 7 days. 1 day is fine with me. A couple of hours would be fine with me too.

I wonder if this option may be available through Apple Configurator?
 
But the ARS link you first shared up above did not corroborate your assertion. Why not?
Again, because I did a quick search to bring up the topic had been reported on.

I don’t understand the pushback on a single article rather than you coming at me for spreading the news about something you are oddly resistant to know about.

Read up, I’m not feeding you info on this anymore. If you care, you’ll look deeper, if not, oh well.
 
An unintended downside: imagine you have a close friend or family member pass away. You/their family want to access their devices afterwards for photos, remembrance, information about their final days, etc. Absent the biometric and passcode (which I am assuming you don't have) you will need the cord access to get in. With a billion devices out there, I am thinking this will happen more frequently than the law enforcement access it is intended to prevent.

And to anyone who wonders why this would even be necessary, I submit you have not suddenly lost a loved one. Not uncommon to go looking for answers or solace in their devices, notify friends of the passing, etc. Asking people to try to get in there within 7 days isn't always realistic or feasible.

In the past we all seemed to get along fine without access to all this info when somebody died. The world didn’t end.

Apple and Facebook (and I assume plenty of other companies) have procedures in place for access when somebody dies and you present a death certificate. Likewise a will can take care of these sorts of things (and if you don’t make one that’s on you).
 
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A six digit passcode (numbers) can be cracked by the GrayKey device (Cracker?) in 11-22 hours. Plenty of time for them to get into the phone (they've now got 7 days with iOS 11.4).

But an 8 digit passcode can't be cracked in under 46 days, so the Cracker won't be able to get in.

An eight digit passcode is easy enough to remember--- BUT if you want to use 8 digits, you've got to choose the "alphanumeric password" option in settings. This will unfortunately default to the keyboard on password entry which is a royal pain because the keyboard keys are so small.

Apple now needs to let us use the normal big button passcode keypad for more than 6 digit passcodes. Then we'll be set.

This should already work. I have an 8 digit passcode and I am presented with a numeric keypad, not the alphanumeric keyboard.

Not exactly sure how I did it. I think I read somewhere if you choose an alphanumeric password but enter only digits, the passcode screen will display the keypad. Give it a try.
 
Do you want overreaching government regulations because this is how you get overreaching government regulations.

This serves no purpose than to stifle the lawful ability of the government to obtain and execute search warrants. Apple would be far better served in obtaining legislation to prevent searches without approval of a judge than pissing off local, state, and federal law enforcement.
 
But what happens if your phone battery died and it's been 7 days for instance you lost your phone and found it later you couldn't plug it in in order to use your passcode? I guess those case would be rare.

I would imagine someone else has already replied to this but in case they didn’t: you can still charge the phone, you just can’t access the data. (Sorry, I should have been more clear)
 
I suspect the vulcan neck pinch to get into DFU mode still works. But DFUing and reloading your phone will (probably?) wipe it... and then you still have activation lock to deal with.
As long as that still works I’m fine with this.
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This serves no purpose than to stifle the lawful ability of the government to obtain and execute search warrants. Apple would be far better served in obtaining legislation to prevent searches without approval of a judge than pissing off local, state, and federal law enforcement.
It also serves to stifle the ability of hackers who want to piggyback on openings that law enforcement finds.
 
Do you want overreaching government regulations because this is how you get overreaching government regulations.

This serves no purpose than to stifle the lawful ability of the government to obtain and execute search warrants. Apple would be far better served in obtaining legislation to prevent searches without approval of a judge than pissing off local, state, and federal law enforcement.
Law doesn’t change the reality of technical ability. If you introduce a vulnerability for law enforcement you introduce it for everyone.
 
The iOS 11.4 update, currently being beta tested, includes a USB Restricted Mode that introduces a week-long expiration date on access to the Lightning port on your iOS devices if your phone hasn't been unlocked, which has implications for law enforcement tools like the GrayKey box.

Does that mean any iOS device that has not been plugged in for a week can no longer connect by USB?

Could a forced planned obsolescence.
 
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