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iOS 11 Will Expand Your iPhone's NFC Capabilities Beyond Apple Pay in Several Ways
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may as well use a pay phone in the woods
The only thing you'll need in your pocket is a portable backup Apple Watch charger.
No. This only allows the iPhone to READ NFC. To do payments with the iPhone you need other devices to be able to read NFC FROM the iPhone.
For the others worrying about security, this is no different than scanning a QR code with your phone (which iOS 11 supports also). It doesn't allow anyone to read anything FROM your iPhone.
"A customer shopping at a grocery store could hold an iPhone near a box of crackers, for example, and receive detailed information about their nutritional values...."
Or I could just pick up the box and read the nutrition label. Maybe the phone will reinforce how bad or good something is for you.
Or I could just pick up the box and read the nutrition label. Maybe the phone will reinforce how bad or good something is for you.
Really? You mean an app couldn’t be written that “reads NFC” and then shows you the data that has been collected by, say, camelcamelcamel? That’s completely impossible?
Why?
Yep, agree. I think we'll reach this stage at some point in the next two decades at most.
Grocery list check off method?
No for two reasons.
The first is that NFC API are only for reading, so the iPhone can read NFC but can't transfer information via the public API, so it cannot send the payment to the terminal. Only Apple pay can do that.
The second reason is Apple pay. Apple won't allow third parties to make the equivalent of Apple Pay so easily. They have control on the app store, so they can refuse payment apps in the future.
I think they'll eventually let developers use NFC to read and to send stuff via NFC, but I'm afraid payment apps via NFC won't be allowed on the store.
Those are the first two phones to have the hardware.
(I.e. the first two to support ApplePay as well)
That's not true. Apple Pay support goes all the way back to the iP6, and includes the SE.
Maybe a larger thin wireless touch display for maps, pics, videos, games, etc--and when you occasionally need to show someone something.
Overall, disappointing. It's a first step, but a tiny one, and took years to allow?? I want full NFC capability, yesterday. Also unless they are admitting the 6 and 6s NFC implementation are less-secure somehow and would threaten ApplePay, the only reason I see to limit this to the 7 is pure greed to get people to upgrade.
I'm curious to know why they don't allow NFC API for older iPhones.
It may be greed as you said, but ARKit is supported on iPhone 6s and is another major selling point for iOS 11, so if the only reason was greed they'd have put ARKit only on iPhone 7.
Then you're on the wrong platform
The iPhone's NFC capabilities are severely gimped. No exchange of info between devices, no door unlocking, no third party payments, no use as a virtual ticket. Things other systems have had for seven or more years.It's not because of security. It smacks of Apple engineering by lawyers, where opening it up would discredit previous Apple lawyer handwaving intended to ward off payment competition. Similar to the way that the iPad defaulted to only four dock icons so lawyers could claim a certain "Apple look and feel" in lawsuits.
However, even an NDEF reader is better than nothing. I can see a big market for tags that you associate with custom actions.
Except apparently you have to have the app open first, which takes away most of the fun if true. Again, with other systems you can register default apps for certain tags. E.g. a web url tag would open the browser of your choice.
Naw. Would cost too much to put an NFC tag on each item. Reading the barcode makes more sense.
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Could tie it in with loss preventative measure. Isn't Amazon using NFC check out at their stores with no employees?Then you're on the wrong platform
It's not because of security either. It smacks of typical Apple engineering by lawyers, where opening it up would discredit previous Apple lawyer handwaving intended to ward off payment competition. Similar to the way that the iPad defaulted to only four dock icons so lawyers can claim a certain "Apple look and feel" in lawsuits.
However, even an NDEF reader is better than nothing. I can see a big market for tags that you associate with custom actions. Except apparently you have to have the app open first, which takes away most of the fun if true. Again, with other systems you can register default apps for certain tags. E.g. a web url tag would open the browser of your choice.
Naw. Would cost too much to put an NFC tag on each item. Reading the barcode makes more sense.
Probably not.
I'm no longer chasing features that are selectively software enabled.
"When placed on a bottle of spirit or a bottle of lubricant oil"..... assuming this goes for tubes of lubricant as well, it's always good to know the ahem... lubricant is fresh.
Really, I can see this having zillions of useful possible applications once Core NFC becomes fully adopted commercially.
Really, I can see this having zillions of useful possible applications once Core NFC becomes fully adopted commercially.
I agree, if every bank makes it so you have to go into their app to make a payment, instead of just being on the lock screen, it'll suck.
I'd like to be able to collect loyalty points for example at the same time as I use tap to pay.
I have to scan a QR code and then use tap to pay when I get my coffee for example.
I'd also like my Passport and Drivers Licence to be in my phone. I could leave my wallet at home if they did this. I believe the UK is looking at digital passports which is definitely the future.
Throw in the ability to unlock and start my car and get into my house and I could leave everything at home except my phone.
I have to scan a QR code and then use tap to pay when I get my coffee for example.
I'd also like my Passport and Drivers Licence to be in my phone. I could leave my wallet at home if they did this. I believe the UK is looking at digital passports which is definitely the future.
Throw in the ability to unlock and start my car and get into my house and I could leave everything at home except my phone.