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iOS 11 Will Expand Your iPhone's NFC Capabilities Beyond Apple Pay in Several Ways
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Is this the way Apple does it. It seems to me like an app has to be open, keeps it more secure.
You do realize that not only can BLE do this but does it way better than NFC ever could, right?
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Apple Pay cannot use it passively, you need to launch the wallet first.
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I will never buy a wine bottle without the NFC tag again! It can tell my app if the bottle has been opened! TEH FUTURE! Before I had to actually look at the bottle. I can now look at my phone instead as I usually do at concerts now.
There is a huge counterfeit market for wine, and those people who are good at it replace good wine with cheap wine, recap it, and fool even the billionaire collectors.
Or, you could pick up said box of crackers and read the info on the box.....or read the normally supplied info in the museum
Not the best examples in terms of getting ones attention, imo.
Not the best examples in terms of getting ones attention, imo.
Apple Pay already works with loyalty cards, Walgreens has been doing it for over a year.
The iPhone will only be allowed to read info.
It will not be able to write tags, or to emulate one and transmit data.
Which is a pity, considering what was predicted and hoped for back when the iPhone first got NFC:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-building-security-transit-ticketing.1810280/
That we know of? No. Some reason known only to Apple? Probably. There is likely some minor bit of hardware, or minor change to the NFC chip, that only the 7 and subsequent phones have.
Apple generally doesn't try to deprive existing users for no reason, but they often don't put extra effort into implementing a feature on older devices that are missing some bit that makes implementing on the new devices easier.
Put it this way, there doesn't seem to be a technical reason for it not to, but Apple is Apple.. so, probably not.
Don't be surprised, there are NFC terminals everywhere in most countries in Europe, all of them should support Apple Pay, you just need a supported (Apple Pay) Bank card.
This is ridiculous from the side of the Apple...Not giving developers like Sony and others the ability to add useful features to their products so customers could benefit...Apple could limit the AppStore to not to accept 3rd party payment apps or whatever they're worrying about...but do not do this crap...
I hope this gets more vendors to board the Apple Pay train. Personally, I can't wait for Apple Pay to be accepted everywhere. After having to replace my credit card twice(!) this year because of fraud, I'm tired of having to constantly stop at an ATM to withdraw cash. (First world problems...
Slow and steady increase, supposed to be at over 50% by end of year, but still frustrating. Some of it is large companies not wanting to lose control over customer data, e.g., Home Depot and Target, and others are still prepping to roll out new readers, e.g., Costco (crossing fingers for end of year).
I mentioned earlier that the US will never have the NFC penetration that other countries do. Reasons include:
- US cards don't require PIN. Signature isn't required most of the time either, meaning that NFC doesn't really add much in the way of convenience for most. While it's still faster than chip, the difference is quickly diminishing, especially since stores are beginning to allow customers to insert and remove cards while items are still being scanned.
- Because PIN isn't required, some merchants will never bother with anything customer-facing. Restaurants, for example, mostly aren't getting wireless terminals; why pay the higher costs when they don't absolutely need to?
- Additionally, POS systems in the US are set up so that they do a lot more work to run card transactions than elsewhere. (In other countries, the POS just sends the amount to the terminal and the terminal does everything.) Because of this, stores very likely have to do significant work to support NFC on top of chip. If people aren't demanding to pay with NFC, why bother doing the work, especially if it'll cost money?
- Merchants generally really hate Visa/MC and don't want to pay more than absolutely necessary. Debit cards will basically have to be run as credit in order to take advantage of CDCVM (which waives signature/PIN entirely), increasing their costs. (Side note: I suspect most stores will end up surcharging for card transactions eventually unless all card fees are heavily capped by the government. SCOTUS already paved the way to making laws prohibiting those unconstitutional but that's another topic.)
- Finally, technology is at the point where NFC simply may already be obsolete. Amazon Go, for example, eliminates waiting in line entirely, providing a much greater boost to customer convenience than NFC ever could.
As for how many places will eventually have NFC support, I'm thinking 75% at best, but maybe closer to 55-60% due to customer accessibility issues. This doesn't take into account the stores that will be closing due to huge retail shift to online, of course.
When the iPhone 6 came out, the iOS Security white paper was updated for how the hardware and software for Apple Pay. Both that hardware and the Touch ID hardware have/had special connections to the CPU that general software couldn’t get access to. So for instance an app on the phone, even with a jail broken OS couldn’t get the fingerprint data out of the secure enclave/secure element (can’t remember now which one is which).
Likely in the iPhone 7 they modified the hardware slightly so that NFC could be made available to the OS to a greater amount to allow building an API like this to it.
The iOS security white paper is very interesting, they go into a lot of detail about how the encryption is done. There is a lot more to it than many would expect: multiple keys - some burned into hardware, some generated by OS, some based on user input, some tied to iCloud. Maybe not the most existing read for most people, but fascinating all the less. Details hardware design that is specific to the security design.
The X-rays of previous iPhones showed that they used mostly stock versions of the NFC chips that everyone else had been using.
You see, NFC has dealt with payment security for many years. One common setup for the NFC controller is that any payment request is shunted directly to the Secure Element where Mastercard/Visa/Amex/Discovery/etc Java applets process the payment. The iPhone is no different in this respect.
It's only non-payment comms that can be passed through to main applications. It's possible that Apple permanently blocked such access in previous iPhones.
But Apple is also known for not giving older devices features that everyone already knew worked on them. Siri worked as a standalone app on older devices before Apple bought it, for example.
I guess we'll find out if/when some jailbreaker figures out how to access the older NFC chips using the newer code. Or not.
You see, NFC has dealt with payment security for many years. One common setup for the NFC controller is that any payment request is shunted directly to the Secure Element where Mastercard/Visa/Amex/Discovery/etc Java applets process the payment. The iPhone is no different in this respect.
It's only non-payment comms that can be passed through to main applications. It's possible that Apple permanently blocked such access in previous iPhones.
But Apple is also known for not giving older devices features that everyone already knew worked on them. Siri worked as a standalone app on older devices before Apple bought it, for example.
I guess we'll find out if/when some jailbreaker figures out how to access the older NFC chips using the newer code. Or not.
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Absolutely incorrect. If you take a locked iPhone and hold it to an NFC reader waiting for payment, Wallet will launch with your primary card ready for Touch ID without pushing a button.
I do it literally every day at the gas station.
Quite often, the nutrition information is printed in the smallest fonts and older people with deteriorated eyesight have to remember to bring a magnifying glass when go shopping. I have to rely on using the Camera app to zoom in on the labels. It will be a really welcome move to have all the information available on your phone by holding it near the products.
I might be reading this wrong, but I was under the impression that they would stick it in a consumable and then the device would be tossed out. In this case they used wine. Sure, some wine is so marked up they can afford to do that, but you really need to get most of an industry doing something if you expect people to pull out their phones to read information that augh to be on the package. At the current prices nanobrewers can't afford to add this tech. So, a lot of good beverages can't do this.
Finally, I can use a feature I was using in 2012 on my Galaxy phone. But then the novelty wore off and I never used NFC again (other than for Android, Samsung or Apple Pay).
Im glad Apple is allowing the iPhone to use this feature now, but will everyone start using it? I doubt it. Hope I’m wrong and this becomes something great.
Im glad Apple is allowing the iPhone to use this feature now, but will everyone start using it? I doubt it. Hope I’m wrong and this becomes something great.
that is why apple is requiring that apps be in active use and the user has to activate the chip. no background uses
Why care for fast when us shops are terrible slow? Most Americans are totally shocked when the shop in a german shop the first time...
Thank you. Well, that answers that. The iPhone 6s with at least iOS 10 is not only capable of writing, but soon even Host Card Emulation where it can act like any card under software control. Neat! Read:
http://www.redmondpie.com/nfcwriter...nlock-and-use-nfc-on-iphone-beyond-apple-pay/
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