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iOS 13 Now Installed on 55% of iPhones Introduced in Last Four Years

And in other news, a survey of iPhone and iPad users with devices running iOS or iPadOS reveals that approximately 1.07% of those surveyed had experienced no significant bugs and/or reported that they were 'happy' or 'very happy' with how their devices operate with Apple's latest mobile operating systems.
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Abazigal said:
Fess up - who are the holdouts here? :mad:😉😁
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The only reason my iPhone is on iOS 13 is that I was impatient enough to buy an iPhone 11 Max before all the bugs were out. My two iPads are staying on iOS 12.4.1 for the foreseeable future.
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posguy99 said:
Just putting it out here. While I pay attention to people reporting how bad iOS 13 is, and so far it *is* bad, I won't install it because of Reminders. I need Reminders to work on both the iOS device, and on both my Mac, and sync between them. I am not going to install Catalina before next June, if I ever do. So, iOS doesn't get updated either. It's that simple.

I am aware of the remote execution vuln in iOS 12.4.1, that's the only thing that's coloring my decision so far.
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As long as you don't touch the "update" button, Reminders are safe. You need to know that you shouldn't do that, though, which most people won't realize.
 
posguy99 said:
Just putting it out here. While I pay attention to people reporting how bad iOS 13 is, and so far it *is* bad, I won't install it because of Reminders. I need Reminders to work on both the iOS device, and on both my Mac, and sync between them. I am not going to install Catalina before next June, if I ever do. So, iOS doesn't get updated either. It's that simple.

I am aware of the remote execution vuln in iOS 12.4.1, that's the only thing that's coloring my decision so far.
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Upgrading to iOS13 does NOT upgrade Reminders automatically - you do that manually when launching the app. You can leave not upgraded just like I have done so I can still use/sync Reminders just as before as I'm using Sierra on my 2010 Mac Pro. The option remains there if you want to upgrade in the future.
 
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At least people are learning not to install Apple update too quickly. Great work Tim Apple!
 
neutralguy said:
Apple did force the update. On my wife's iphone XS Max, I have disabled auto update. But it force updated itself. In the morning, my wife looked at her phone and said it got updated overnight. Apple is forcing it.
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Nope. Didn't happen. But you can't prove your version and I can't prove mine, so there we are.
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dickie001x said:
Upgrading to iOS13 does NOT upgrade Reminders automatically - you do that manually when launching the app. You can leave not upgraded just like I have done so I can still use/sync Reminders just as before as I'm using Sierra on my 2010 Mac Pro. The option remains there if you want to upgrade in the future.
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And it puts that big blue "Upgrade me!" button there. No, thank you, I don't want to see it.
 
newellj said:
As long as you don't touch the "update" button, Reminders are safe. You need to know that you shouldn't do that, though, which most people won't realize.
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There's nothing in iOS 13 that's worth it potentially getting screwed up.
 
groove-agent said:
I would have thought that percentage to be much higher esp. for phones within the last 4 years.

Although I'm a big Apple critic, I'm really impressed with iOS 13. As Tim would say, it's one of "the best updates yet".
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iOS 13 broke compatibility with a lot of corporate email accounts, so that’s probably part of the reason adoption isn’t higher yet. My own employer is shooting for the end of October for a fix.
 
falainber said:
You are confused. There is no single version of Android. Each vendor has their own version. So, just like iPhone users are (or are not) on the latest version of Apple's OS, so are, say, Samsung users on the latest version of Samsung OS. You are talking about Google's Android. But this one is targeted only to Google phones. And, Samsung version of Android usually has way more features than the Google's one.
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I am not "talking" about anything; I provided a link to a web site with information supporting my position. Would you care to do the same? Forgive me for not simply taking your word on the "facts" you claim.
 
C DM said:
Well, "later" is different from not installing.
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I typically know what I'm doing around a phone. There is no option that says "Please don't install this update until I explicitly tell you to." This is basically what it looks like. I hit Later, it updated overnight without my permission. Apple is being extremely shady here. Other people in the thread are saying this happened to them as well.

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sub150 said:
I typically know what I'm doing around a phone. There is no option that says "Please don't install this update until I explicitly tell you to." This is basically what it looks like. I hit Later, it updated overnight without my permission. Apple is being extremely shady here. Other people in the thread are saying this happened to them as well.

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Did using "Later" prompt you to put in your passcode or show anything else after you selected it? Have you tried "Details"?
 
C DM said:
Did using "Later" prompt you to put in your passcode or show anything else after you selected it? Have you tried "Details"?
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Only option to truly avoid forced update is hit view details, then go back to home button. Most people will hit later, it will promote people enter passcode with very tiny warning about update will be installed during the night. This is where Apple is very creepy about it.

The warning about overnight update is very tiny underneath huge passcode pad. If people aren’t careful enough, they will enter passcode and thinking update will not proceed.

If i say i will install later, i don’t mean install update overnight. I mean LATER, when I am ready to install. Why should i enter passcode when I specifically said later?
 
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oldmacs said:
This has been my experience in the past - refusal to do anything until the device is updated...
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That certainly very well can be the case. At the same time, it hasn't been the case in my experience in the past.
 
C DM said:
Did using "Later" prompt you to put in your passcode or show anything else after you selected it? Have you tried "Details"?
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To most people the obvious thing to press is 'Later', not details and then the home button. There should be a button that says 'do not update'.
 
LovingTeddy said:
Only option to truly avoid forced update is hit view details, then go back to home button. Most people will hit later, it will promote people enter passcode with very tiny warning about update will be installed during the night. This is where Apple is very creepy about it.

The warning about overnight update is very tiny underneath huge passcode pad. If people aren’t careful enough, they will enter passcode and thinking update will not proceed.

If i say i will install later, i don’t mean install update overnight. I mean LATER, when I am ready to install. Why should i enter passcode when I specifically said later?
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oldmacs said:
To most people the obvious thing to press is 'Later', not details and then the home button. There should be a button that says 'do not update'.
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As in this kind of screen when "Later" is used?

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C DM said:
Did using "Later" prompt you to put in your passcode or show anything else after you selected it? Have you tried "Details"?
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The upgrades are forced. As soon as I hit "Software update" it started downloading iOS 13 despite having Auto-updates set to off. This is very dirty and scammy.

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maverick28 said:
The upgrades are forced. As soon as I hit "Software update" it started downloading iOS 13 despite having Auto-updates set to off. This is very dirty and scammy.

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The automatic download when on WiFi and connected to power is annoying. That said, it shouldn't install on its own, and the download can be deleted from storage. To avoid that the best solution so far is to use a tvOS beta profile that would prevent the device from checking for (and downloading) iOS updates.
 
C DM said:
To avoid that the best solution so far is to use a tvOS beta profile that would prevent the device from checking for (and downloading) iOS updates.
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Could you, please, expand on that? Won't those profiles hinder normal iOS functioning?

NB. After some perfunctory googling I was able to delete that crap lurking in "iPhone Storage" settings.
 
maverick28 said:
Could you, please, expand on that? Won't those profiles hinder normal iOS functioning?

NB. After some perfunctory googling I was able to delete that crap lurking in "iPhone Storage" settings.
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The profile mainly just directs the device to where it should look for updates, so having a tvOS beta profile installed would direct it to check in a location that wouldn't have iOS updates (as it would have tvOS updates) and therefore the device would never see a new iOS update available.
 
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