Do you realize how short a lifespan headphones & cords have? My EarPods last me about 2 years on average before I have to go to the store and buy a replacement. I'll take a new pair when I spent $1000 on a new phone, thank you very much.
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iOS 14.2 Suggests Apple Won't Include EarPods in the Box With iPhone 12
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If they’re wired, they’re fine to use often when multi-track recording. Applying my situation to others, not everyone who multi-track records is working to win Emmy’s and put food on the table.
It will benefit the consumer in the form of same or lower prices. Your assuming it won't, but the opposite assumption is equally valid as the price hasn't been revealed.
True those who don't like the airpods will buy another pair, either from Apple or from another manufacturer.
What would be nice is to put AirPods in the box instead.... but it won't happen. I've given up on Apple though, I sold my iMac, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV, AirPort Extreme and MacBook, they're dated now and I have no use for any of them. However I haven't upgraded because other people offer better solutions now, [/quote]
To those others that offer better solutions, it's entirely subjective and based on your individual use case.
Mac is still a niche player for Apple and I don't think Apple really cares.
Based on one's use case it would determine which phone and which model is best for them.
I suggested something along these lines a while back. Don't know how difficult it is to implement something like this, or even if Apple wants to do this. Seems like, in my anecdotal limited world, a minority of people have absolutely no BT headphones, wired headphones or charging brick. Frankly with the iphone 12 pro max as was suggested above the 20w usb-c charger should be included in the box. But who knows?
At this point the new phones will be shipped from Ikea and we will just build them ourselves
To be honest I use my iPhone for everything other than talking on the phone through the earpiece on the device. That RARELY happens. RARELY. 😄
To be honest I use my iPhone for everything other than talking on the phone through the earpiece on the device. That RARELY happens. RARELY.
Next up people will say you do not need an earpiece in your iPhone. Airpods work fine.
i haven’t used supplied buds in about as long, but I know several people who do. I actually give mine to a friend whose earbuds tend to break after a year or so, but he only upgrades his phone maybe every three or four years.
He’s in his 30s, and doesn’t really care about tech. My stepmom (in her 70s) also uses her supplied buds, as do several others I know.
I think most of us on this site wouldn’t feel the sting of this, but we aren’t a good sample. I think this is a BS move by Apple.
It does the job, so what? My experience is that even way more expensive headphones from the usual brands tend to have really bad, noisy microphones attached to them. I don't know what Apple is doing right, but the microphones that come with the earbuds are actually pretty solid and I see a lot of people using them for video calls because they are so reliable and offer decent sound.
I'm saying if something matters so much to you, you'd be investing at least some $ into what you need. If you think EarPods is worth $29, then buy it. For the majority of users, listening is probably the primary use case of EarPods but EarPods don't provide the audio quality of other earbuds or the ease of use of AirPods. Finally, judging by the sales of AirPods, tens of millions of customers are throwing their EarPods away when they upgrade to a new iPhone but we're all paying for that in the iPhone purchase price.
I rather have Apple allocate the extra budget saved from not including EarPods (and charging brick) into software or hardware (of course Apple will pocket some of that, but at least there's extra budget for other areas).
Yeah, among my non-techie friends, almost everybody who uses earphones just uses the included EarPods since they’re good enough. However, I’d also say I know at least as many people who don’t use headphones with their iPhone at all, simply because they use it more as a phone or for non-audio focused things like messaging and social media.
This annoys me purely on resale.
Now if I want to sell my 11 Pro Max I will keep my charger, and it will be less appealing on the used market as a result.
Now if I want to sell my 11 Pro Max I will keep my charger, and it will be less appealing on the used market as a result.
I have a feeling the used market will change due to Apple and other manufacturers not including chargers.
Here is an idea. Let them choose whether they want earpod, charger, cable or not. If they just want the phone, give them discounts. This way, people with a lot of chargers/BT headphones at home can save some money. It’s a simple problem.
Next year to save the environment and be carbon neutral, Apple will not even ship anything to you. You are buying just for the thought of buying a new iPhone.
I have yet seen other manufacturers not including chargers. Even the cheapest sub $100 Android phones come with a charger. Headsets, yes, but chargers so far are always included.
Samsung reportedly won’t include chargers with some phones starting next year
Apple is also rumored to exclude chargers from phone boxes.
www.theverge.com
Seems about right.... give us less and charge more seems to be the apple way lately.
You are probably the only person left who does not have a drawer full of USB chargers, why would you ‘have to’ order another one?!
Well, not everyone needs to order a power adapter and headphones, most people already have them at home. (I bet no more than 20% of people does not have power brick and headphones)
Moreover, they can reduce the size of the iPhone box itself to 1/3. Which means they can ship 3 times more boxes per flight, reduce carbon footprint.
Are you sure you have plenty of USB-C chargers? The rumor indicates that Apple will ship lightning to USB-C cable,not the old USB-A type.
I would put the lightning to usb-c cable in a draw and use one of the ten usb-a to lightning cables with one of the 5 iPad power bricks.
So you assume any regular iPhone 12 buyers would be just like you, and would’ve already had 5 iPads. Or that iPhone 12 buyers must be existing multiple iDevice users...
I guess people already have their strange logic fixed in. I guess kudos to Tim Cook for being able to continue Jobs reality distortion field.
Correct. I believe that many people (as apple probably believes) that those that have excess chargers and cables and EarPods outnumber those that don’t.
Those who do not have access to any usb charging device or EarPods are probably in the minority. ( which is why Samsung is rumored to follow this umor)
It’s not for me to judge the distortion field over the hard facts that apple probably has regarding this rumored change.
This has nothing to do with paper packaging. This has to do with millions of AirPods that get thrown into the trash before their lifespan is complete because we get a shiny new set every year we replace our phones. How much energy and how much waste (toxic or otherwise) on this planet is created when a set of AirPods are created for every phone created. Im sure there's a pretty large percentage of people that don't even use the AirPods and year after year improperly dispose of them. It is not always about money. Apple works harder than most to reduce their damage to the planet.