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Lack of information but I understand. You made a nonsense claim and can’t explain it so deflect. It’s ok. I understand. Anyone can talk rubbish online.

My claim was only nonsense to the extent you’re not able to or are unwilling to grasp or accept what I said. And that’s OK. No need to get worked up over a pair of EarPods.
 
I quit using the Apple buds when they went to the Earpods. Things wouldn't stay in my ears. Same goes for the original Airpods, since they were the same shape. I went to Bluetooth, so I didn't lose a second of sleep when they got rid of the headphone jack.
 
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I cannot wait to read all the Apple fans with Stockholm syndrome about how this is the best thing ever. Apple will giver you less but keep the price the same. Wow. They are so amazing.
 
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My claim was only nonsense to the extent you’re not able to or are unwilling to grasp or accept what I said. And that’s OK. No need to get worked up over a pair of EarPods.

Your claim was unsubstantiated. Does not hold up to scrutiny within Apple’s own product line. Simple as that.
 
Your claim was unsubstantiated. Does not hold up to scrutiny within Apple’s own product line. Simple as that.

it holds up to scrutiny just fine. Manufactures make trades all the time to keep their margins in line. I’f you don’t buy that, that’s fine. Take a deep breath.
 
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Already saw it and do not agree. Apple sources in large volumes. They can take the hit. What have they removed from the iPad with equivalent sensor?
They're the largest company in the world because they don't take a hit if they can avoid it. Having worked for large corporations for over 20 years one thing I can say for certain is that while money is always the first priority there are always other factors that influence decision making. No one wants to work for a soulless company that only cares about money. Having other impacts on community or elsewhere, like the environment, motivates people more. We all want to make an impact. To think otherwise is naive.
 
They're the largest company in the world because they don't take a hit if they can avoid it. Having worked for large corporations for over 20 years one thing I can say for certain is that while money is always the first priority there are always other factors that influence decision making. No one wants to work for a soulless company that only cares about money. Having other impacts on community or elsewhere, like the environment, motivates people more. We all want to make an impact. To think otherwise is naive.

Naive is believing all that and being ok with them not dropping the price.
 
$29? Free airbus are probably no more than 99c to manufacture but they do contribute to pollution in their manufacture and disposal. Why contribute more if you don't need to?
Apple should only allow you buy a phone every 3 years if they are serious about the environment. Thats a serious reduction in e-waste. Make Macs every 5 years. Now we are talking real environmental savings.
 
Removing the wasteful and unwanted EarPods will help, even if just a bit, subsidize the LiDAR sensor, a relatively costly unit.

Apple would have to be incredibly stupid including EarPods at this point in time.

In the end, removing EarPods will help keep Apple's very reasonable 38% GPM / 21% NPM in check. A good move.
They are replacing something some people use with something no one uses. Got it.
 
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Apple should only allow you buy a phone every 3 years if they are serious about the environment. Thats a serious reduction in e-waste. Make Macs every 5 years. Now we are talking real environmental savings.

Strawman argument. Don’t be absurd.
 
Strawman argument. Don’t be absurd.
Its actually a reductum ad absurdum argument...I mean if you want to know. The point is anyone talking about e-waste is just making excuses because there are easy things Apple can do that would impact e-waste by multiple powers than the things they are doing, but they would impact their profits so we just assume that absurd. But its all absurd. They are trying to save money and a bunch of suckers praise them for it by citing magic words about E-waste.
 
They should just provide a voucher with each sold device that is redeemable for a pair of earpods at any apple store OR redeemable for a $30 (or whatever the RRP of earpods are) discount on the purchase of a pair of airpods.

Many won't redeem them since they genuinely don't need them so environmentalists win. Apple save on the average unit cost and get an additional opportunity to upsell, so they win too. Consumers don't lose out at all and potentially gain a discount on airpods if they were looking to buy them also.

Everyone wins
 
They should just provide a voucher with each sold device that is redeemable for a pair of earpods at any apple store OR redeemable for a $30 (or whatever the RRP of earpods are) discount on the purchase of a pair of airpods.

Many won't redeem them since they genuinely don't need them so environmentalists win. Apple save on the average unit cost and get an additional opportunity to upsell, so they win too. Consumers don't lose out at all and potentially gain a discount on airpods if they were looking to buy them also.

Everyone wins

That could work. Though $30 might be a bit too high. I like the principle.
 
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