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beerseagulls

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It’s better for you because you wear something on your face. Someone working with gloves all day long could say the same thing about Touch ID. Doesn’t mean one’s better than the other.

that's true..... I don't have fingerprints, so I never really considered that
 

bmark

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Feb 23, 2013
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This is by design. You want a working Face ID then upgrade your device! Apple diminishing features to boost their bottom line.
 
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lartola

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Feb 10, 2017
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Oh man, at least the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max is not affected. It's best to upgrade to iOS 16. There is a reason why apple tells the consumers to update your device to the latest software.

Still, it’s ridiculous that a minor update for a OS that was released over a year ago still comes with such bugs. I would have expected this kind of a bug in the recently released iOS 16, but certainly not in a security update to the over a year old iOS 15, which is supposed to be more stable than iOS 16 because they’ve been working on it for over a year.
 

lartola

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Face ID... So it seems that iOS 15 updates are still available for models newer than iPhone 7 Plus except the iPhone 14 series...

Are we going to have iOS 15.8 or iOS 15.9 soon?

yeah, it’s not just for devices not getting iOS 16, but also for anyone who has a compatible device but doesn’t wan’t to upgrade to iOS 16 just yet (which, considering how buggy the software comes nowadays and how many of the promised new features are still missing and won’t arrive in months, seems to be a wise decision).
 

rileyes

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Dec 16, 2009
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Still, it’s ridiculous that a minor update for a OS that was released over a year ago still comes with such bugs. I would have expected this kind of a bug in the recently released iOS 16, but certainly not in a security update to the over a year old iOS 15, which is supposed to be more stable than iOS 16 because they’ve been working on it for over a year.
This update isn’t out yet. It’s just a beta release. What are you not understanding???

Also, iOS 16 is out. Who gives af about a 15.x release. Move on.
 

lartola

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Feb 10, 2017
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This update isn’t out yet. It’s just a beta release. What are you not understanding???

Also, iOS 16 is out. Who gives af about a 15.x release. Move on.

Geez did you have to be so rude and aggressive? I know iOS 15.7.1 is in beta, but iOS 15 came out a year ago. Beta or not, a face id bug in the older, supposedly more stable software, is even more unacceptable than if it had been in iOS 16 just released.
 
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redheeler

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Oct 17, 2014
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Oh man, at least the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max is not affected. It's best to upgrade to iOS 16. There is a reason why apple tells the consumers to update your device to the latest software.
Historically minor versions have been far safer than major ones. This is a strange occurrence but thankfully caught before official release. I'm even surprised that 15.7.1 needed a beta or RC phase but I guess this is why 🤷‍♂️

In any case I'm glad Apple still supports iOS 15, and hopefully this negative publicity doesn't dissuade them from supporting older iOS versions in the future.
 
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rileyes

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Dec 16, 2009
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Geez did you have to be so rude and aggressive? I know iOS 15.7.1 is in beta, but iOS 15 came out a year ago. Beta or not, a face id bug in the older, supposedly more stable software, is even more unacceptable than if it had been in iOS 16 just released.
If you make a change to software, whether it's an older version or the latest release, it's still a change, and there is always the risk of introducing bugs. And the reason why companies let beta testers download pre-release versions of their software is for that very reason. This is actually a success story. They released software early so that testers, who opted to download potentially buggy software, could help them identify bugs that were missed. And guess what? It worked.

I'm a huge Apple critic in general, but I'll never be on board with totally illogical criticisms that lack any serious contemplation. This article and the comments that followed were just people on the outrage treadmill, adding their comment like clockwork, never once stopping to think rationally. If anything, the comments here are projections of their other frustrations with Apple in general and don't actually have anything to do with the substance of the article.

What is so annoying about this article and the comments that followed is that you're basically saying that beta/pre-release software should have no bugs, which means it should essentially be the final release, in which case we aren't talking about beta software anymore. Like I don't even understand what your expectation is here. That they not beta test anymore? That they not share their release candidate early to ensure there are no issues? Or that not only should their officially released software be bug free, but that they can't even have pre-release versions of software that have bugs? In which case, why would they even have pre-release software?

Also, my comments are not rude or aggressive towards you, but towards your ideas. If you disagree, make a better argument. Ideas don't have feelings.
 
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cptcaveman

macrumors member
Jun 6, 2005
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Still can’t get Face ID working on my 13 Pro Max - this is crazy!
My son updated his iPhone 11 which was working perfectly to 16.1 and now has FaceID not working and he has messages about servicing the TrueDepth camera. The phone is of course out of warranty.

The phone was working perfectly moments before the update. Perfectly. I had him use FaceID to unlock it.

There seriously needs to be further investigation here. Is Apple hobbling "old" phones via software update?
 
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