There are dozens of phone manufacturers. Each can provide a level of customization was the point.
Bingo! Somebody gets it!
There are dozens of phone manufacturers. Each can provide a level of customization was the point.
With each manufacturer free to customize as requirements demand.There are dozens of phone manufacturers. Only two OS.
With each manufacturer free to customize as requirements demand.
I guess that really depends on the speed of the FBI servers and their ability to scan and forward your browsing requests. 😉Re: Private Relay, how will it affect the browsing speed, streaming, etc.? I would expect some lag, as it adds some extra steps between the browsing device and the server? 🤔
Cool, cool. Which of these privacy features prevents automated snooping of my iCloud photos?
Basically if customization is applied, it’s not technically the exact same functionality as another competitor. So yeah there could be dozens of o/s.There are dozens of phone manufacturers. Only two OS.
Are there three OS?
Are there four OS?
Are there more than four OS?
That's what I thought.
Basically if customization is applied, it’s not technically the exact same functionality as another competitor. So yeah there could be dozens of o/s.
Until Apple stops snooping in my photo library any privacy features Apple announce is a joke.
I don’t agree with the premise.No, there are two OS.
And the value of a platform is derived from the complements and applications available for that platform. So if you don't trust either Google or Apple, you have nothing to do, because any other competitor couldn't offer anything similar, due to the lack of preventive action. That's why antitrust laws exist.
Because a duopoly is a flawed market.
I don’t agree. The point was if apple doesn’t meet ones requirements find a manufacturer with the functionality that does.
Cool, cool. Which of these privacy features prevents automated snooping of my iCloud photos?
I don’t agree with the premise.
The point was the if apple doesn’t meet ones requirements find a manufacturer with the functionality that does.
To my earlier point customers voted with their dollars on windows based phones.
Yes it does. The desirable part is consumer choice. The point was there was no legal barrier to entry for windows phones. That a critical mass of customers didn’t find the platform to their liking is market forces at work.The point is customers voting with dollars don't make something fair, reasonable, legal or desirable. […]
Every device which downloads iOS 15 will be forced to comply with Apple's scanning. Only choice is to not upgrade your device. Tim Cook is so hypocritical. Apple spends so much time espousing all of its PRIVACY features like iCloud Private Relay and "Mail Privacy Protection" then pulls this backdoor snooping BS. I'm tired of TC talking out of both sides of his mouth. Maybe TC is posturing to avoid Fed coming down with heavy new regulation of big tech.While scanning is done on-device, the flagging is not done until an image is stored in iCloud Photos
Yes it does. The desirable part is consumer choice. The point was there was no legal barrier to entry for windows phones. That a critical mass of customers didn’t find the platform to their liking is market forces at work.
Yeah, a critical mass didn’t like the product.There was a de facto gigantic barrier to entry, so much so that not even Microsoft was able to overcome it.
Nothing like legislating popularity.That's why antitrust laws exist. Otherwise they wouldn't be necessary as far as you don't create pro trust laws.
There is no legal barrier to entry. It’s not the government’s responsibility to lower the barrier of entry to the lowest common denominator.In case you haven't noticed, big tech is a monopolistic ever expanding force based in its economies of scale and the value of the ecosystem and its complements.
It’s about the right product for the right market.It's not about how good you are at something,
Big companies fail with the wrong strategy. Anyway far off of the main topic. The point stands if one wants to find an alternative there are multiple choices.it's about how big you are. The very definition of why antitrust laws exist.
Yeah, a critical mass didn’t like the product.
Nothing like legislating popularity.
There is no legal barrier to entry. It’s not the government’s responsibility to lower the barrier of entry to the lowest common denominator.
It’s about the right product for the right market.
Big companies fail with the wrong strategy. Anyway far off of the main topic. The point stands if one wants to find an alternative there are multiple choices.
I guess that really depends on the speed of the FBI servers and their ability to scan and forward your browsing requests. 😉
Well said. Totally agree.
You don't need that feature, because your iCloud photos will not be "snooped.""Snoop" implies the scanning information is being monitored by or reported to humans, but it's not. Everything stays on your phone UNLESS both of these things are true: 1. Multiple CSAM images are detected on your device 2. You upload those images to iCloud.
You people are acting like there will be employees at Apple sifting through your photos. "Wow, looks like they had a great time at that party . . . Ah, their new baby is so cute . . . Oh, so they have two dogs too . . , Well, no CSAM today, we'll check again tomorrow." LOL!
Well, allowing users to optionally use a transparent third party encryption services with iCloud/Photos/etc. would solve the issue. Well, it's somewhat possible with files, but it's not very straight forward.I understand that Apple is responsible for what is stored on their servers. My problem is with the on device scanning.
Nope, the other one demands manufacturers to follow their rules, else no support and access to additional services.With each manufacturer free to customize as requirements demand.
So Samsung doesn’t customized their devices?Nope, the other one demands manufacturers to follow their rules, else no support and access to additional services.
But i can imagine, that soon a few manufacturers will advert with (no google services inside) and this will be a privacy feature, instead of a drawback.
Well and with Apple OS's, a sad outcome, absolutely no choice to gain privacy here, trapped.