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Question? So time to educate me kindly.. dont be an ass. Doesn't the new iOS block data from websites? So technically the adaptation might be off because they can't see it? Or at least id hope so.
 
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Question? So time to educate me kindly.. dont be an ass. Doesn't the new iOS block data from websites? So technically the adaptation might be off because they can't see it? Or at least id hope so.
It blocks certain data from websites. Doesn't mean that their analytics doesn't report back to home base. There's always exceptions to everything. It's probably just somewhere in size 2 font.
 
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I may be wrong, but I believe that if you upgraded to iOS 15 from iOS 14 you can't go back.
This is true! Now, you _might_ be able to downgrade using Apple Configurator and a very specific restore image, but I've never tried it myself out of sheer fear. Maybe someone in the former with Developer access has tried it in here?
 
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If you have nothing to hide why is CSAM plans an issue... protecting the innocent or mentally challenged is society's responsibility. Download iOS 15 and embrace a company that unlike a lot of commercial bodies is open about the importance of personal privacy... I repeat if you have nothing to hide.. you have nothing to fear! Stop listening to the media and research the facts, CSAM does not allow anyone to view your private images.
So you are for government surveillance then? They are just protecting us….. being naive is one thing but just blindly trusting any entity is just on you.
 
Apple had MONTHS to prepare, and here we are with buggy release.

I’m beginning to wonder if developers even bothered to install the OS beta on everyday device to test the OS for bugs they might encounter. All this should’ve been discovered easily before final release.

While back, when I installed developer beta my device on my everyday device, I found MULTIPLE bugs that was not on release notes, and I would end up submitting endless bug reports to Apple, and yes, it bug happened to be with navigation function on maps, I would actually bring my Mac with me to my car, to log the data and submit to Apple.
Apple hasn’t been good at listening to bug reports. I’m not referring to them ignoring security vulnerabilities, just bugs. I’ve submitted several, I’ve seen posts of others submitting feedback in the feedback app only to be ignored. Not sure why they bother with beta testing they don’t listen to the beta testers.
 
That sounds very painful! 😫
I mean I don’t really care but it sucks that Apple who is very pro privacy is entering the market of what Facebook and TikTok is doing. Just surprised that’s all, “pro privacy” is the same as Apple being “pro environment” aka throwing away used devices and displays instead of letting third parties fix it.
 
I know invoking Steve Jobs is useless, and I may just be crabby because this time around it seems I am impacted by more bugs than usual, but it really seems like iOS is at a point where we need "someone" to stop a meeting and draw a cross/plus sign on a white board and get everyone back to the basics. Stop trying to reinvent iOS and just spend some time polishing it.
Right, because iOS was *so* much more stable under jobs…
People conveniently forget about this.
Or The overheating iPhone 3GS, or the absolutely disastrous launch of iPhone OS 2.0 and mobile me on the same day, which literally left their servers completely destroyed for like five days.
Or the fact that push notifications were supposed to launch in September 2008… and instead launched in June 2009.
Or how on the initial launch of iOS 5, the iPad home screen gesture controls only worked on the second generation iPad, even though the OS supported the first generation iPad? Luckily there was enough complaining that they added it to the first GEN iPad in a software update.
I think I’ve made my point
 
So you are for government surveillance then? They are just protecting us….. being naive is one thing but just blindly trusting any entity is just on you.

I checked the constitution, and it turns out that Apple is not the government.

Also checked the dictionary, and it turns out that Apple isn’t surveilling us.

Also checked the dictionary, and it turns out that reading a technical explanation of the cryptographic system being used, combined with a background in cryptography and international security, and then actually understanding what Apple is doing, is not “naive.”
 
Right, because iOS was *so* much more stable under jobs…
People conveniently forget about this.
Or The overheating iPhone 3GS, or the absolutely disastrous launch of iPhone OS 2.0 and mobile me on the same day, which literally left their servers completely destroyed for like five days.
Or the fact that push notifications were supposed to launch in September 2008… and instead launched in June 2009.
Or how on the initial launch of iOS 5, the iPad home screen gesture controls only worked on the second generation iPad, even though the OS supported the first generation iPad? Luckily there was enough complaining that they added it to the first GEN iPad in a software update.
I think I’ve made my point
You missed my point. I’m not saying iOS was better or worse, just that someone needs to slow things down and fix what’s broken before worrying about anything else new.
 
Question? So time to educate me kindly.. dont be an ass. Doesn't the new iOS block data from websites? So technically the adaptation might be off because they can't see it? Or at least id hope so.
My educated guess is apps that have a surveillance sdk knows what you are running and reports back to home base. As far as safari if you enable tracking and protection your ip address is hidden but the headers will show ios 15.0. For more information visit:

 
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Question? So time to educate me kindly.. dont be an ass. Doesn't the new iOS block data from websites? So technically the adaptation might be off because they can't see it? Or at least id hope so.
Yes, with iCloud+. However, since it’s currently a public beta, you do have to opt in
 
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Apple Music keeps appearing in the Music app on both my iPad and my iPhone, even after I turn it off in settings.
 
I have the touch issue. It didn't occur to me that it was a bug until I read it here. Locking/unlocking or swiping up to home screen solves the issue, but I hate having to abandon what I am doing because the screen is not responding.

Other than that iOS 15 has been solid, I like the new features so I accept the trade offs as long as they are fixed soon.

I haven't gotten the touch issue in apps, but my pull down for notifications sometimes just doesn't respond. It's super weird.
 
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Annual updates feel too fast for me. Bi-Annual would be perfect.

There are opposing forces at work... Apple expected to maintain perfect stability while Apple expected to add a ton of new features. Can't really have it both ways. They just can't win with a small minority of users.
 
Have it on my 13 Pro and it runs fine although the screen may be a touch too sensitive. Not installing on my iPads as I really dislike most things about iPadOS 15 from the new Safari design (tab design especially) to the layout on the home screen, to the inability to place my older widgets and pin on the home screen, to more. Just not for me. I will stay on iPadOS 14.8 until I am forced to update.
 
Apple can backport CSAM to iOS 14 if they desire. Being iOS 14 doesn’t mean you will be CSAM free. You prolly need to use an old less powerful device.
You are correct but I think Apple is smarter than that. When I purchased my device it was not made known to me that a scanner was in place. To avoid a class action lawsuit they need to provide a path with security updates for those of us who don't agree with it. Since this was announced for 15 and then "delayed" not "cancelled", they have the right to install it in a future 15 release, no different than the other "features" that are delayed. No guarantee as you mentioned, but I am assuming they are smart enough to keep 14 without CSAM. I will not be upgrading to 15 or purchase any new Apple devices until we get clarification on this.
 
What is even more likely, is that people just don't notice the update, often times it is not pushed to the user unless you search for it. And since people use their device with no problems on iOS 14, there is no reason to be bothered with an update, that most people don't know what will change. Some people also don't have enough space for the update without deleting stuff.
 
If you have nothing to hide why is CSAM plans an issue... protecting the innocent or mentally challenged is society's responsibility. Download iOS 15 and embrace a company that unlike a lot of commercial bodies is open about the importance of personal privacy... I repeat if you have nothing to hide.. you have nothing to fear! Stop listening to the media and research the facts, CSAM does not allow anyone to view your private images.
Speaking for myself, I am on iOS 15 and don't care all that much about the CSAM feature. That said, I can see why others would assess the small potential benefits from catching people dumb enough to upload illegal content to iCloud and find those benefits lacking compared to the risks of giving Apple backdoor on-device access. Saying "If you have nothing to hide" in conversations about respecting privacy is literally the most cliched and thoughtless approach an individual can take, and I hope you take some time to reflect on why you would gravitate to that talking point.
 
Saying "If you have nothing to hide" in conversations about respecting privacy is literally the most cliched and thoughtless approach an individual to take, and I hope you take some time to reflect on why you would gravitate to that talking point.

+100 on this

It tells me a lot (and not in a positive way) about anyone who drags that point out and holds it up as something useful in debate.
 
I may be wrong, but I believe that if you upgraded to iOS 15 from iOS 14 you can't go back.

This is true! Now, you _might_ be able to downgrade using Apple Configurator and a very specific restore image, but I've never tried it myself out of sheer fear. Maybe someone in the former with Developer access has tried it in here?
You can currently still downgrade through a computer. It's more of an issue of having an iOS 14 backup because trying to install 14 on top of 15 could cause issues. A clean install is also an option.
 
CSAM literally gets around encryption and let other people view your private images. It’s just a bit more targeted. If you have nothing to hide, good for YOU ONLY.
It’s not how it works at all.. the worst thing is, is you probably know this. So knowingly spreading FUD is actually what you’re doing here… like so many more. Not liking something for how it works is one thing, making stuff up to make it sound worse is a whole other level.
 
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