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iOS 16 Speculation Thread
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Dang, tough day in the office today. Seems like we're not getting anything today 
That would be very surprising. As I remarked over in the iOS 15 Speculation thread, I am surprised to see neither 15.6 nor 16.0 b4 so far today.
This is one of those rare instances when I still foresee something yet this afternoon, perhaps 1pm PDT.
I'm feeling tomorrow for DB4; DB2 and DB3 were both released on Wednesdays so that's pretty much my only logic. 🙃
I’m still holding on to the hope that it’s just late… aw, please, Craig, just hit the big red button for us!!
That would be interesting. Apple traditionally releases on tuesdays, but you’re right- the last two betas were on wednesdays
They were likely released on Wednesdays because of holidays observed on Mondays though.
Well, looking back at last year, there’s a case to be made that we might not see another beta until next week.
Last year, DP2 was released on 6/21 (a Monday). It was updated on 6/30 (a Wednesday) and the Public Beta was released 3 hours later. DP3 then followed 2 weeks later, on 7/14 and PB3 was released on 7/15.
Since we have just come off of the PB release last week (preceded, as in iOS 15, by the DP update), its possible that we may not see the next betas for 14 days after that, or next week.
Arguing against that is the fact that we are already 3 developer betas in, versus 2 last year, but still it bears watching.
Last year, DP2 was released on 6/21 (a Monday). It was updated on 6/30 (a Wednesday) and the Public Beta was released 3 hours later. DP3 then followed 2 weeks later, on 7/14 and PB3 was released on 7/15.
Since we have just come off of the PB release last week (preceded, as in iOS 15, by the DP update), its possible that we may not see the next betas for 14 days after that, or next week.
Arguing against that is the fact that we are already 3 developer betas in, versus 2 last year, but still it bears watching.
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That’s the one thing I suppose we could see. But I doubt it in the older phones. Or they would have done it already.
It's a new phone year for me, so I'm grabbing at anything I can get right now!
It wouldn't surprise me if they wait until next week so they get the developer and public betas on the same weekly schedule
I heard a noise in a cupboard, I went to check and I found Cat 1 tied up in there. I then went into the lounge to find Cat 2 sitting there laughing, next to a Cat 1 disguise! That explains everything.
Sounds like you just experienced something called Deja Meow
Oh I do agree. I was just commenting that the 168 hours / 24 hours is 7 days which implies next Tuesday.
There is a chance something happened with 15.6 that pushed everything back. Contrary to another comment on this thread I think they would hold up the beta cycle for iOS 16 to push out the 15.6 release since that has a more immediate impact on the public. They can always make up time on the dev cycle for the beta.
Yeah, I don’t think they would do that. The iPhone shipping on time is probably the most sacred rule at Apple. The company literally depends on it. So, anything that has the potential to hold that up is probably on the fastest of fast tracks. I think it far more likely that they’d let 15.6 slide than risk putting the iPhone ship date at risk. The only way I see that happening is if there is some sort of zero day out there that 15.6 would patch.
As I noted above, it may simply be that there was always intended to be a 2 week gap between the release of the public beta and the next Developer Preview, as there was last year.
Long running joke the past few iOS betas/years when Netflix, Instagram, etc… all got updates in the App Store; a beta or iOS update was coming. Ppl were tired of it, of no such theory, haha. Started references ‘cat’s out’, waiting….. I feel loan and behold something was rolled out. (Most of the time)
Few things here.
1.) iOS 16 is at no risk of slowing down the shipment of the iPhone. If they don't get a feature finished or bug patched in time of flash date, they're going to flash the phones and issue a day one update (we've seen it before). The phones WILL ship, regardless of the state of iOS 16 at whatever date is set in stone.
2.) There are likely two separate teams working on 15.6 and 16.0 meaning delaying 15.6 keeps that team tied up longer when they are likely going to be reallocated to 16.0 development once their project is finished.
In my experience the project that has the most immediate impact on the customer is the one that is prioritized. Yes - iOS 16 is their new big flashy release, but 15.6 NEEDS to be delivered to customers. If we assume that instead of RC2 we were supposed to get the public release of 15.6 Monday this week, you better bet that there are managers within Apple HQ having meeting after meeting today to try to figure out why they missed their ship date.
It's fun to speculate, but really difficult to know for sure what's going on there.
I do think that there is a high chance that with the updated developer build last week we might not see a release until next week (2 weeks from public beta).
Given how my Xs only heats up when the Camera app is being used, I’d say they’re definitely working on some under the hood improvements there - Neural Engine code work maybe?