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iOS 17.1 Features: What's New in iOS 17.1

It brings me such joy and comfort to know that my contact list in iOS 17.1 is still super slow to respond.
 
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I thought this update was supposed to fix the notification sound. It's still rebound sound for certain apps and notifications.
 
buran-energia said:
It more has to do with the fact that iPhone 15 uses the older gen CPU that only supports USB 2.0 (because it had only lightning), while the new chip in 15 Pro was designed for USB 3.0 support. At least they did not lower the speed deliberately with just a switch.
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Yeah, but WHY would Apple put USB 2 and not USB 3 in any modern chip in the first place is beyond belief. We are literally talking about two 23 and 13 year old standards. USB 2 came out before the first ever iPhone FFS.
 
CarpalMac said:
Conversely, I have just bought the 15 Pro, upgrading from the 11 Pro. Alongside that, I also have a Pixel, currently the 7 Pro. I have owned every iteration since the Pixel 1 and still have that, for the unlimited photo uploads. I agree with everything you say and have had to run both due to my frustrations with the iOS ecosystem (e.g. poor file system, chromecast integration, app 2 app and & system settings seggregation, garmin watch notification setting limitations etc..) but have stopped at the 7 as frankly, Google is now really annoying me with their "get what you are given" attitude.

I feel that the quality of the Pixels is now not commensurate with the price. Little things that add up, like the opening the camera and setting to 5x zoom, it takes a good second for the focus to adjust. The curved edges might look pretty, but I find it finiky when using some apps. On several occassions it too has run very warm and since Google in their infinite wisdom removed the CPU usage setting from the developer options, I cannot see why. Things like that were the clear differentiator, and they are blowing it. Couple that with how dumb the assistant is becoming (my nest hubs are becoming much more siri like, potentially due to Google losing a lot of copyright infringment lawsuits) and now they are even removing functionality from them by taking away Meets and Zoom calling (https://9to5google.com/2023/09/18/nest-hub-max-google-meet-zoom/).

This is exactly why we need more competition in the marketplace, not less, as so many on here seem to wish for.
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Thanks for that, really appreciate the info.

I'm still going to give the Pixel 8 a go. I am actually a light phone user, as I'm on my MBP all day for work, study, and play. So overheating, or battery running out of charge, aren't really going to be an issue for me.

FYI, the Pixel 8 got rid of the curved edges on the screen.

I am really looking forward to features such as having to be able to see the complete playlist of songs that were playing in the background at the bar I've just been in.
 
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Tagbert said:
Do you mean that you want a more feature rich file manager or that you want apps to be able to read each other’s data?

It is true that Files is not as robust as Finder but I’m not sure that there are a lot of people who would use that. Most app data on the phone isn’t stored as files but in databases. Some apps like VLC keep their videos in files and you can move files in and out of that app directory. Others like Notes are not files but entries in a SQLlite database.
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Feature rich. Yeah, Finder-esque. And no, I don't want it to access an app's DB. I want it to use for my own files, just like I would Finder on my MBP.
 
GMShadow said:
I always love the 'open' argument. It's nonsense but people have been repeating it for a decade regardless.
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How is it nonsense? I'm comparing it to macOS. Both are built on the same base OS. Both have incredible computing power. Only one gives access to a proper file system, and the underlying unix system and command line. This functionality requires a very small amount of computing power, which the iPhone could do in it's sleep.
 
sideshowuniqueuser said:
Thanks for that, really appreciate the info.

I'm still going to give the Pixel 8 a go. I am actually a light phone user, as I'm on my MBP all day for work, study, and play. So overheating, or battery running out of charge, aren't really going to be an issue for me.

FYI, the Pixel 8 got rid of the curved edges on the screen.

I am really looking forward to features such as having to be able to see the complete playlist of songs that were playing in the background at the bar I've just been in.
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Oh sorry yes, you absolutely should give it a go, especially if you can get a good deal on it. I think my post was a bit rambling and aimless, probably more my "thinking out loud" rather than trying to warn you off. If I have one actual warning, it is about the residuals on the phone. Pixel used prices are nowhere near as robust as iPhones, that is the main thing I would bear in mind. Traditionally they are quite well discounted around black Friday time, which may help with that.

Compared to iOS it is quite a liberating experience, I can readily configure the phone, widgets and the apps within to meet my needs. e.g. The Pixel 1 I mentioned before, that sits at home running an app that every 15mins syncs photos from my OneDrive camera uploads folder (photos taken on my other devices), downloading them to a local folder on the device. It then uploads those images to my Google Photos app, making use of the unlimited photo storage. Try doing that on iOS! I do also like that when I download an android app, they don't all immediately want me to comit to a weekly or monthly subscription. Totally anecdotal, but it feels like every iOS app these days requires a sub before you can use it properly.

Thanks for saying about the flat screen, I hadn't noticed that, it might be enough to tempt me! Good luck, I hope it works out for you.

Edit: Just saw your other message about waiting for the sales!! 😄
 
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Screentime is still broken for me. Installed 17.1, the very next morning both my kids screentime limits were deleted. Redid their limits and today....their limits are deleted again. And yes I wait for the screentime stats to populate first, I did notice the population was much faster. I still also have the issue where my AW doesn't receive screentime notifications from my kids. Seriously, can they just hire someone to exclusively deal with screentime?
 
sideshowuniqueuser said:
The somewhat hilarious thing is that the one final nail that broke the camel's coffin, was the slow, and 20+ year old, USB 2.0 standard being foisted onto the base iPhone 15.
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When Apple removed the 70 year old 3.5mm jack standard, with its origin dating back to 1877, people were up in arms.
Maybe Apple learned a lesson and though removing a 20 year old standard was too early?
 
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henkie said:
Which he literally stated: “Hilarious because I was going to get the iPhone 15 Pro, with the faster USB 3. “. But was so annoyed by the fact that the 15 got usb2, he bought an Android. Details…But yeah, let’s defend Apple using old usb2 on an almost 1000 euro phone in 2023.
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Which makes it even more stupid: I'm not buying phone A because phone B doesn't have a feature I want.
 
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CarpalMac said:
Oh sorry yes, you absolutely should give it a go, especially if you can get a good deal on it. I think my post was a bit rambling and aimless, probably more my "thinking out loud" rather than trying to warn you off. If I have one actual warning, it is about the residuals on the phone. Pixel used prices are nowhere near as robust as iPhones, that is the main thing I would bear in mind. Traditionally they are quite well discounted around black Friday time, which may help with that.

Compared to iOS it is quite a liberating experience, I can readily configure the phone, widgets and the apps within to meet my needs. e.g. The Pixel 1 I mentioned before, that sits at home running an app that every 15mins syncs photos from my OneDrive camera uploads folder (photos taken on my other devices), downloading them to a local folder on the device. It then uploads those images to my Google Photos app, making use of the unlimited photo storage. Try doing that on iOS! I do also like that when I download an android app, they don't all immediately want me to comit to a weekly or monthly subscription. Totally anecdotal, but it feels like every iOS app these days requires a sub before you can use it properly.

Thanks for saying about the flat screen, I hadn't noticed that, it might be enough to tempt me! Good luck, I hope it works out for you.

Edit: Just saw your other message about waiting for the sales!! 😄
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Crikey, sounds like the pixel is genuinely a computer, and comparatively, the iPhone is a toy!

I'm quite looking forward to getting it.
 
sideshowuniqueuser said:
Horses for courses.
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You were saying how the Pixel is a true "computer" but the real computer here with a better chipset, quicker memory, DEX and Raw photos that will blow any phone outta the water with good post processing, the real "computer" is an S23U and in a few months it'll be the S24U by a country mile with SDGen3
 
Tagbert said:
I’ve used it a little in the iPad but not on the phone. I really don’t have a need to manage files on the phone.
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I don't care what you really need or not. I was talking about my own use case, and thus why I am choosing the Pixel 8 instead of the iPhone 15 Pro.
 
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