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iOS 17.4 Beta Adds CarPlay Option to Show Upcoming Maneuvers in Instrument Cluster

entropys said:
When you are all saying that you can see turn by turn in your instrument panel and HUD, you mean the OEM satnav, or do you mean carplay Maps?

my Santa Fe already has turn by turn in the instrument panel and the HUD, but it isn’t CarPlay, but the satnav that came with the car. We don’t use the built in satnav, just CarPlay Apple Maps, but that is only displayed on the large infotainment screen, not the instrument panel and HUD, which this update seems to make possible.
the question is, is CarPlay going to be able to take over the navigation entirely in the instrument panel and the HUD just by being enabled in software by Hyundai, or even if it is possible in cars that already do this with their OEM navigation.
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For my Mercedes, yes it’s the CarPlay turn by turn directions that show up on the HUD.

In fact, it’s my preferred nav now because the Mercedes nav insists on showing a detailed map on the HUD with no way to disable it and it’s useless and distracting to show that much detail.
 
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DaveN said:
Well, my vehicles are from 1998 and 2000 so I have to do everything by iPhone. I do have a bluetooth to FM transmitter so at least I hear the directions over the radio.
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if you live in Europe you can go for the Kia Ceed or the even cheaper Kia Picanto. Both models wil adopt the new functionality with the 2024 models
 
NightFox said:
This is good, but what I have now lost on my Polestar 2 is the ability to have the detailed map show in both the dashboard display and the main display. Now one shows the detailed display (i.e. the view you navigate from) and the other shows a large scale full-route overview which is so zoomed out it's of limited value, especially on long trips. You can swap them around, but you have to have one on each view, they can't both show the detailed view at the same time which was supported previously.
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Can you take a photo or screenshots?
 
My BMW X5 has it anyway unless it will look different. Both HUD and control display below. Still Waze is my go to satnav. I can't get used to Apple Maps. For example switching to alternative route when driving is not intuitive. The views (3d or not) also not very user friendly...


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medialook said:
My BMW X5 has it anyway unless it will look different. Both HUD and control display below


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That's how my Ram shows it when running CarPlay on the big infotainment screen. This new update is eventually supposed to allow the entire digital cluster to be CarPlay's aka, controlled by Apple. Right now, its just passing through some map data.
 
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Nicky G said:
My '23 VW GTI shows next turns/directions in the driver-facing instrument screen if I'm using Apple Maps via Carplay, including a nice little "countdown" bar that indicates how close I'm getting to the turn/direction. Doesn't work for Waze unfortunately, and I'm not sure about Google Maps.
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Is this just with the new beta? If so I need to test it on my 22 Audi. Fingers crossed
 
joshuamj said:
I never used it because it didn't indicate the distance to next turn (or the street name!) like it does on the phone itself or in the infotainment system.
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Is this what they mean by "maneuver"? I was expecting something much more...

 
NightFox said:
This is good, but what I have now lost on my Polestar 2 is the ability to have the detailed map show in both the dashboard display and the main display. Now one shows the detailed display (i.e. the view you navigate from) and the other shows a large scale full-route overview which is so zoomed out it's of limited value, especially on long trips. You can swap them around, but you have to have one on each view, they can't both show the detailed view at the same time which was supported previously.
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I had a Quick Look just before, and that’s not what I'm getting. For me everything is the same except now I see turning directions on the drivers display. (Polestar 2). They’ve taken away diatance and time to arrival, and just left time of arrival, which is fine by me.
 
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Just tested on my ‘23 Volvo XC90. The update now shows an overview of the entire route with no maneuvering displayed. Prior to this update the Apple Maps being displayed on the digital dash would show the route just like the main infotainment system. Guess it’ll take an update from Volvo since they recently added Apple Maps to the digital dash. Here’s to hoping Volvo/Polestar owners see it in OTA 2.14.3 which drops in about 3 weeks.
 
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ShivneelSingh said:
I’d love to have this but I have an older 2020 Mercedes and I doubt Mercedes is going to implement this.
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Same here. I even have a 2022 Audi, but I doubt they will back update. They are saving it for new purchases to get people to upgrade. Which I might...
 
medialook said:
My BMW X5 has it anyway unless it will look different. Both HUD and control display below. Still Waze is my go to satnav. I can't get used to Apple Maps. For example switching to alternative route when driving is not intuitive. The views (3d or not) also not very user friendly...


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Never used a HUD before, is that brighter than what it seems like in this picture mate?
 
NightFox said:
This is good, but what I have now lost on my Polestar 2 is the ability to have the detailed map show in both the dashboard display and the main display. Now one shows the detailed display (i.e. the view you navigate from) and the other shows a large scale full-route overview which is so zoomed out it's of limited value, especially on long trips. You can swap them around, but you have to have one on each view, they can't both show the detailed view at the same time which was supported previously.
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rmcq said:
I had a Quick Look just before, and that’s not what I'm getting. For me everything is the same except now I see turning directions on the drivers display. (Polestar 2). They’ve taken away diatance and time to arrival, and just left time of arrival, which is fine by me.
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I couldn't wait and just jumped onto the iOS 17.4 beta train.

In my Polestar... I see what you mean - you can't have the same view in both the driver display & the centre display.
One must be 'overview' and the other screen must be 'detailed'.

Get turn-by-turn directions with CarPlay

Use CarPlay to find places, get directions, estimate your arrival time, and more.
support.apple.com

Change the map view in CarPlay

In CarPlay, find your location on a map, zoom in and out, and move the map to see the detail you need.
support.apple.com

Previously, both would be 'detailed' without the details of the next turn in the driver display.

Time to submit feedback and request being able have both displays with the 'detailed' view (while including the next turn info in the driver display)
 
LuissCM said:
Same on my 2023 Lexus, I see the turn by turn directions with an arrow on my driver screen and heads-up display. Hoping this update includes these vehicles 🙏
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Which Lexus. I have a 2024 RX450h+
 
joshuamj said:
NICE! When they finally added Apple Maps to the instrument cluster in my Polestar 2, I never used it because it didn't indicate the distance to next turn (or the street name!) like it does on the phone itself or in the infotainment system. Not sure how/why this was even left out in the first place.
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Same boat as you, same car. Will check the update out but I still doubt it’ll supplant the native Google maps in the car for me.
 
medialook said:
It's well visible both daytime and nighttime. It's just hard to photograph it nicely.
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HUD is a killer feature, you can brighten and dim it and there is a rotate function that will leave you scratching your head.... this has gotten me thinking to try Apple Maps since I never used it and on my BMW and Mini, the missing functionality of CarPlay has been no HUD for me. The visible feature has been that it's a bit crap and nails the battery.
 
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entropys said:
When you are all saying that you can see turn by turn in your instrument panel and HUD, you mean the OEM satnav, or do you mean carplay Maps?

my Santa Fe already has turn by turn in the instrument panel and the HUD, but it isn’t CarPlay, but the satnav that came with the car. We don’t use the built in satnav, just CarPlay Apple Maps, but that is only displayed on the large infotainment screen, not the instrument panel and HUD, which this update seems to make possible.
the question is, is CarPlay going to be able to take over the navigation entirely in the instrument panel and the HUD just by being enabled in software by Hyundai, or even if it is possible in cars that already do this with their OEM navigation.
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I have a 2022 VW Touran (not available in the US) minivan built in 2021. I use Apple Maps and the turn-by-turn directions show up in the center (dashboard) cluster, both text and graphic (left or right turn, roundabout) as well as road names or numbers and distance to turn countdown. I do not use the built-in VW nav system. The large detailed Apple map shows up in the large screen on the dashboard to the right of the steering wheel along with the other CarPlay controls. It works both with a wireless connection and a wired connection. I prefer wired to save on battery power.
 
More options are always a good thing, but CarPlay is prone to crashing and locking up from time to time. That's the last thing I need on my instrument cluster.
 
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