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“Ordinary people”, like you say, wouldn’t know how to download an IPSW. Problem is already solved.

Apple just needs to sign the damn IPSW so that iTunes doesn’t error out. No other changes required.
You explicitly called iOS updates Malware, then argue for the ability to downgrade to iOS versions with active security exploits.

Do you think this kind of thinking might be why nobody is taking your claims seriously?
 
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“Ordinary people”, like you say, wouldn’t know how to download an IPSW. Problem is already solved.

Apple just needs to sign the damn IPSW so that iTunes doesn’t error out. No other changes required.
The solution for you is much simpler: don’t update the OS from what originally came with the phone. That’s what you should do if you believe that there are so many problems with updating.

Like I said, never had any issues myself with 5s, XS and now 15 so I update.
 
But that doesn’t mean that iOS “11.7” is better than iOS 10 on an iPhone 7, for example.
maybe not, but iOS 12 is better than iOS 10 on an iPhone 7.
And even more recently, iOS 17 benchmarks higher than iOS 16 did on most of the devices it runs on.
 
but wait! everyone kept saying Apple deliberately makes phones worse via software updates to get people to upgrade.

they're awfully quiet now.
why are you saying this as if they did a good thing? i mean they limited the phone to 7.5W wireless charging via software when it could do 15W this whole time..
 
I don't much care for wireless charging at home or in the office, but it's a game changer in the car! As long as the magnets are strong enough, it's brilliant.

Genuine question- what power adapter is necessary to power Qi2 at full blast (15w)? I saw it needs min 20w input due to the lossy nature of the process, but does it need to be PPS? The power level scales up and down depending on what charge percentage the phone is on... are all adapter capable of this? I tried to search but there's not much info out there
 
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why are you saying this as if they did a good thing? i mean they limited the phone to 7.5W wireless charging via software when it could do 15W this whole time..
That’s how software works. Not everything is available on day one. It’s like a video game that improves frame rates with later updates for the same version of an OS.
 
This article is the first mention I can find anywhere of a "15 Watt only charging animation."

I would like more details about this. This doesn't actually seem to be a thing.
 
And that is where me and you disagree.
Downgrade to an older version? Sure.
If you want to run 15.8.2 on the iPhone 13, you should absolutely be able to.
15.0? Known exploits and vulnerabilities, bugs and issues? Absolutely not.
We don’t disagree at all! You (you being Apple), truly care about security and good user experience? Okay, then implement @Lounge vibes 05 solution. Sign the final version of every major iOS update for every device. I have absolutely no problem with that, at all. You want iOS 12 on the iPhone Xʀ? Sure! iOS 12.5.7 only. No problem with that. But don’t do the garbage you do now: ”oNlY 12.5.7 for the 6 Plus”. Nah. Sign it for everything. iPhone 5s onwards, up to A12 Bionic iPhones. Give the full solution. Don’t force an iOS 12.0 user on an iPhone Xʀ to go to iOS 17.4.1.
 
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You explicitly called iOS updates Malware, then argue for the ability to downgrade to iOS versions with active security exploits.

Do you think this kind of thinking might be why nobody is taking your claims seriously?
iOS updates worsen performance and battery life. You cannot uninstall them, reformatting doesn‘t work, and there’s no solution whatsoever, other than buying a newer device.


…until sufficient time elapses, and the cycle starts again.

THERE IS NO SOLUTION. There’s nothing the user can do once they update far enough. They can’t go back, they can’t do anything. Only solution is to buy a new device. Sorry, but that’s unacceptable.
 
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maybe not, but iOS 12 is better than iOS 10 on an iPhone 7.
And even more recently, iOS 17 benchmarks higher than iOS 16 did on most of the devices it runs on.
Better than iOS 11? Sure, one of the few exceptions. And remember I always say “when updated far enough” occasionally, a major version is fine. Yet eventually, the device is obliterated.

In this case, the iPhone 7 on iOS 15 sucks.
 
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The solution for you is much simpler: don’t update the OS from what originally came with the phone. That’s what you should do if you believe that there are so many problems with updating.

Like I said, never had any issues myself with 5s, XS and now 15 so I update.
What makes you think I don’t do that? Of course I do that. But then…

I was a victim to the A9 on iOS 9 activation bug. ALL devices with an A9 processor on iOS 9 were deactivated by Apple and forced to update. My 9.7-inch iPad Pro was forced into iOS 12 and another 6s I have was forced into iOS 13. How isn’t that malicious?

Okay Apple. Sure, for some reason, your activation servers are “broken“ and (totally unintentionally, sure), deactivated a lot of A9 devices on iOS 9. Let me install iOS 10 then. No, not possible. Apple’s solution? If you want to keep using your iPhone 6s, update to the then-latest iOS 13.4.1. That iPhone 6s was so obliterated that it has lived inside a drawer ever since. It was flawlessly running iOS 9.3.3 until then.

That said, like I said:

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I already do that.
 
Nonsense aside, is anyone aware of any hardware differences on the 12 that may have led Apple to take their time with this firmware update? Was the 13 the first to use a new power controller chip or something?
 
Wow, 5 pages in and all we have is arguments about software updates.

Yet the really important matter of the 15W charging animation has been asked multiple times and we still don't have an answer.

Is it the standard green ring or not?!
 
And that is where me and you disagree.
Downgrade to an older version? Sure.
If you want to run 15.8.2 on the iPhone 13, you should absolutely be able to.
15.0? Known exploits and vulnerabilities, bugs and issues? Absolutely not.
That would eventually be true of 15.8.2 too…
 
as a happy iPhone 12 Mini user... YES! THANK YOU!

really hope this is true.

EDIT:
From the Macworld article: "Note that the iPhone 12 mini and iPhone 13 mini charge up to only 12W, but with standard Qi. However, Anker points out that, as Qi2 is fully backward compatible, you can charge an older Qi-compatible or MagSafe iPhone on a Qi2 charger, but at a maximum of 7.5 watts rather than 15W."

womp womp. this stuff is confusing.
 
but wait! everyone kept saying Apple deliberately makes phones worse via software updates to get people to upgrade.

they're awfully quiet now.
Well, I won’t be quiet. I’m waiting for an update from Apple to give me the option to take 24mp photos with my 14 Pro. I guess it will be a long, long wait.
 
I just want the Apple Watch to be compatible with MagSafe someday, even if in a limited way like it charges slower. It doesn't make sense to me that my AirPods Pro 2 charge on MagSafe or Apple Watch charger but my Apple Watch Ultra 2 only charges on one. They both have roughly the same sized contact patch for charging!
 
why are you saying this as if they did a good thing? i mean they limited the phone to 7.5W wireless charging via software when it could do 15W this whole time..
you bought the iPhone 12 knowing full well it's 7.5W with no promises you'd get 15W.
 
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why are you saying this as if they did a good thing? i mean they limited the phone to 7.5W wireless charging via software when it could do 15W this whole time..
This is incorrect.
The phone could always do 15 W through MagSafe since the day it was released.
Outside of that, it could do 7.5 W for regular wireless chargers that didn’t have magnetic alignment.
Qi2 adds magnetic alignment to the QI standard, therefore now more third-party chargers can do 15 W charging.
QI2 products only started shipping last quarter.
 
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