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iOS 17 Rumored to Have 'Fewer Major Changes Than Originally Planned' as Apple Shifts Focus to AR/VR Headset
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That’s not true at all. For example, iOS 13 was a massive release, whereas iOS 14 didn’t bring anything new.
What about the redesigned home screen with widgets and less interruptive calls and Siri?
Come on you’re not really getting into the Macrumours “we want it now and we’ve paid for it” mentality
Personally I think AR will take off. It’s its 2nd or 3rd bite of the cherry and it will stick eventually. VR not so much, possibly in design teams or medicine maybe but I don’t think the general populace want to wear a headset.
and Zuckerberg naming it the metaverse just annoys me. He’s pretending it hasn’t existed for decades
Stop making TV shows and let the other guys provide those apps and clean up your product portfolio.
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Good. Fix the bugs and slow down on the new features so I can get used to probably half the features I don't even know exist. It's amazing how cool some of the features look during Apple Events but when the update comes it feels like they no longer exist or I just don't know what I'm doing. For Example, App Clips. Is that still a thing?
Well, I hope Apple is happy being the next Meta, sinking all its money into AR/VR. Because of course this will be the time that AR/VR is a huge hit and becomes the next iPod…
More people does not equal better quality. If it were that easy, every problem would be fixed by simply hiring more people. A lot of times it's the exact opposite. The more people you throw at a problem, the more complicated it often becomes...clashing personalities, different priorities, different perspectives, etc. I think Apple knows what it's doing when it comes to its teams.
It also makes sense that Apple would focus more on a new product category in a launch year than a very mature category. A lot of people on these forums say we need a "Snow Leopard year." It sounds like we might be getting one!
macOS still has some major weak points (Safari), a smaller iOS 17 update will be ok if the hardware changes enough.. Lot of disappointing news lately, though - M2 Extreme cancelled, same form factor for the Mac Pro, no upgradeable RAM solution; still no 27" iMac or iMac Pro.
For simplicity, they could bring back the 27" iMac (or make it 30") and call it the iMac Pro to parallel the MacBook Pro, similar price and customization options. A step up, but not a giant step like the last iMac Pro. Make the Mac Studio the new Mac Mini (drop the prices across the board and expand the spec downward for the entry level), Mac Pro is the same Mini/Studio aesthetic in tower size.
For simplicity, they could bring back the 27" iMac (or make it 30") and call it the iMac Pro to parallel the MacBook Pro, similar price and customization options. A step up, but not a giant step like the last iMac Pro. Make the Mac Studio the new Mac Mini (drop the prices across the board and expand the spec downward for the entry level), Mac Pro is the same Mini/Studio aesthetic in tower size.
Call me crotchety, but I don’t care at all about AR/VR, and I feel like most people don’t either.
There are so many bugs in iOS that any divergence of development feels like a slap in the face. This is coming from a former employee and essentially lifelong ecosystem enjoyer. I’m fully expecting to get the 2023 Google Pixel if iOS 17 isn’t a huge step forward.
There are so many bugs in iOS that any divergence of development feels like a slap in the face. This is coming from a former employee and essentially lifelong ecosystem enjoyer. I’m fully expecting to get the 2023 Google Pixel if iOS 17 isn’t a huge step forward.
Maybe not at first. But a I think a true prescription pair of spectacles with well thought out AR functionality / overlaid data would be unbelievably useful - a few ideas might be walking / driving routes, public transport real time details, data on a product you’re looking at, similarly information on a location you’d in, looking at 3D products in location as though they’re actually there, warning of danger in the environment (fall hazards for instance), instant immediate search results via voice assistant, details of music being played or playing in the environment, games, and lots more ideas. In an ideal world these might be linked to AirPods or something similar to interact with the device.
People talk like we're being overwhelmed with so many new features every year to the detriment of refining the software, but a lot of these updates have been rather minor (Stage Manager is a big new feature, sure, but there hasn't been much else in macOS lately, and most of the iOS 16 talk was about new collaborative features, not exactly game-changing). If they couldn't address bugs or fix long-standing issues before, why would this year be any different? How about that promised overhaul to the Music app that never seems to happen?
So in other words, when you asked children about a failed attempt at ar/vr, they didn’t see the appeal. Wow. Total shocker. Like asking people what they think of google stadia and basing the entire gaming product category on that feedback alone.
We’ve seen augmented reality in science fiction movies for decades and the utility it provides. Yet somehow despite all this, people that haven’t even seen apples attempt at a product like this are quick to call it a fail. This just smells of the original iPhone launch all over again. I know. It doesn’t have a hardware keyboard and touch screens on phones suck. “Can’t imagine a product like this ever succeeding”
We’ll see
Why would AR/VR take precedent with no established content initially? This is like the 8K debacle. They will build it, but it's a novelty without content. Now if they just go with augmented reality examples using iPhones and iPads that a less risky start into this new marketplace.
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That’s because no one seems prepared to admit that there’s no mass market appetite or use case for VR/AR headsets – and ones that cost $3,000 – at this point.
Meta has been tanking its share price going all-in on the idea of the metaverse.
And while there has been niche uptake in the world of gaming, even PlayStation hasn’t managed to really bring the idea to the mainstream. Can Apple deliver a content experience more compelling than that? We'd love to see it.
The idea of why Apple would bring this to market is baffling.
What would an $3,000 Apple headset do? Play mobile games from the App Store? Support creatives, in the same way, its $3,000 super Macs do? Surely, it would be a reference platform for developers (and investors)– to start generating interest. That may well happen, but a general release? We're skeptical.
Apple has turned itself into a trillion-dollar company making products that everybody wants.
We don’t see why it would reverse that strategy by making something no one wants.
Apple introduced a new kind of phone that changed the industry yes, but phones were already popular by then. AR/VR is still not popular or widely adopted. If the rumored price is true, then I don't see this succeeding outside of a niche market. I find it hard to believe that Apple is going to single-handedly create the mainstream AR/VR market with this device. I guess we will just have to see.
Not necessarily. Especially if the critical path dependencies for food coming out faster aren't cooks or stoves. lol. But good one.