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There is no evidence that opening up screen sharing on Apple devices would make them less secure. These features have been functional for years across Windows and Android with no incidents that I'm aware about. Apple just doesn't wants more reasons for iPhone owners to buy a Mac, and opening up iPhone screen sharing to other desktop platforms removes one of those reasons. That's it.

Apple being everyone's nanny is no better than the EU supposedly being a nanny state. This is also a company that has repeatedly let malware and scam apps in the App Store, so I have no idea where so many people are getting this misplaced sense of ultra-high standards. I can go download AI girlfriend and unregulated cryptocurrency trading apps through the App Store right now, but not a Wii emulator or real Firefox?
Exactly.. People think this is about security concerns. Oh my god, pleaaaase! This is about Apple locking in stuff to sell more stuff, simple as that. Funny how, like you say, everyone else have these features without any scandals.. I like a lot about Apple, but this walled garden isn’t one of those things. Opening up features for others can only be a good thing. Opening up Apple Watch/Airpods notifications etc. for use with Android phones Would also be a good thing. Instead of people having to choose all Apple or no Apple at all. Apple can easily open all this up with top notch security, but that isn’t the issue. The walls are the issue. How can people not see this? I mean, I even understand Apple in this, from their point of view it’s logical to not comply, ‘cause it goes against their business model. But I still think their business model is fundamentally wrong.
 
I'm a EU citizen and I'm not annoyed, except with all the typical apple fanboy bs here.


You want to do business in a market, comply with its rules.
Simple as that.

And if apple starts to cut too many things, they will have fewer customers here. Up to them to decide if they're ok with that.
I'm a chinese citizen and I'm not annoyed they removed vpn apps.
I'm a UAE citizen and I'm not annoyed they removed Facetime.
Please add to the list....
 
At least you have Polish. Many European languages are missing. Android and Microsoft have had the Baltic languages etc from the beginning. Even Windows 98 had Estonian for example and so did the Office. iOS are missing more languages. Talking about system wide languages, not just siri
Seriously, iOS does not support Estonian?

I am more disappointed with the EU for allowing big corporations to divide the EU into different countries and set different rules. The EU facilitates corruption and price collusion.

If I want to buy something cheaper in a German Media Markt or Amazon, I have to agonise because officially it is not possible. Personally, I think the EU does not care about the interests of smaller countries, especially in Central Europe.

Polish was already supported in macOS Classic, but it wasn't until Mac OS X Leopard that it was introduced into Mac OS X.
Those were the days when there were only four people working at Apple's Polish office in Warsaw!

Nintendo or Amazon still seems to ignore the Central European region to this day.
 
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I have been looking forward to iPhone Mirroring. This is a huge disappointment.
Strap yourself in because it's only going to get worse from here on out for you. The days of getting feature parity day-one software updates with the rest of the world is now long gone thanks to the EU's laughably ill-thought out targeting of Apple for extortion.
 
Strap yourself in because it's only going to get worse from here on out for you. The days of getting feature parity day-one software updates with the rest of the world is now long gone thanks to the EU's laughably ill-thought out targeting of Apple for extortion.
I’m afraid you are right. I don’t see myself getting a new iPhone if it will be like this.
 
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Exactly.. People think this is about security concerns. Oh my god, pleaaaase! This is about Apple locking in stuff to sell more stuff, simple as that.
Disagree. Apple has always taken a stricter view of privacy and security than their competitors. They trust themselves to offer a feature, but (in my opinion) correctly don’t trust others. Part of the reason I like Apple!

Funny how, like you say, everyone else have these features without any scandals.. I like a lot about Apple, but this walled garden isn’t one of those things. Opening up features for others can only be a good thing. Opening up Apple Watch/Airpods notifications etc. for use with Android phones Would also be a good thing. Instead of people having to choose all Apple or no Apple at all. Apple can easily open all this up with top notch security, but that isn’t the issue.
Or it could lead to Apple users’ personal data being stolen and sold. Just to pick one of example, what’s to stop Meta from copying the content of every notification that gets displayed on its sunglasses and using that to track users and sell ads? How many users are going to read the fine print and realize that’s what’s happening when the click “receive notifications on my sunglasses?”.

The walls are the issue. How can people not see this? I mean, I even understand Apple in this, from their point of view it’s logical to not comply, ‘cause it goes against their business model. But I still think their business model is fundamentally wrong.
Lots of us choose Apple because of the walls, not in spite of them. If you think their business model is fundamentally wrong, the correct answer is: “don’t reward them by buying their products” not “get the government to make their model illegal”. Because millions of us prefer their model.
 
Until the EU notices that they’re not getting the revenues they expected. Would the regulators be willing to regulate their citizens? :D
I don't know, would they? At least they already regulated public healthcare and (more or less) free education in all EU countries.

Disagree. Apple has always taken a stricter view of privacy and security than their competitors. They trust themselves to offer a feature, but (in my opinion) correctly don’t trust others. Part of the reason I like Apple!
By stricter view you mean, "we care about your privacy....so that we can sell personalized while denying others"?

Lots of us choose Apple because of the walls, not in spite of them. If you think their business model is fundamentally wrong, the correct answer is: “don’t reward them by buying their products” not “get the government to make their model illegal”. Because millions of us prefer their model.
No there are not. Most people just chose Apple because they're the lesser evil or are forced to stay in their garden. I hate the style of the AWU or AW in general, yet I am practically forced to use it if I want a decent integration. I get it, when manufacturers dont want to create a product, but in this case its they contraire. Apple BLOCKS them with all their might to not create a product which can really compete to AW (on iOS at least).
 
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Nope, I’ve gotten many great apps by side loading and I can finally watch youtube without ads and sponsorship and even youtube music is for free

A friend of mine got a modified Discord app and instagram and X that work in Turkey etc. The world doesn’t revolve around you. Alternative app stores were needed and were long over due
I’m sure that’s what the EU intended - to enable people to steal content from Youtube(!)
 
Actually, the EU would then also have to force Canon to release its mount for manufacturers of third-party lenses, but there is no talk of that.
 
I’m sure that’s what the EU intended - to enable people to steal content from Youtube(!)
That wasn't my main point. The main point is with the current situation in Turkey for example 3rd party app stores are the only way to run apps that have been blocked by the government too.

Also, it's not stealing. Is using Brave browser stealing from YouTube too?
 
Strap yourself in because it's only going to get worse from here on out for you. The days of getting feature parity day-one software updates with the rest of the world is now long gone thanks to the EU's laughably ill-thought out targeting of Apple for extortion.

If you honestly believe that Europe (and probably every other region of this planet other than the US) has had "feature parity day-one software updates" so far I have beautiful beachfront property in Colorado to sell.

We haven't, which coincidentally is one reason why opening up systems is so important because, at least in theory, local competitors could fill the void.
 
I'm a EU citizen and I'm not annoyed, except with all the typical apple fanboy bs here.


You want to do business in a market, comply with its rules.
Simple as that.

And if apple starts to cut too many things, they will have fewer customers here. Up to them to decide if they're ok with that.

I don't care about Apple or the EU, I care about getting work done.
The product is fundamentally worse here for the same price.

The EU is overreaching in regulation. It's ridiculous.
 
I don't care about Apple or the EU, I care about getting work done.
Then go to Cupertino and have a talk with Tim  and tell him to just comply to the rules. Simple as that.
The product is fundamentally worse here for the same price.
Same as your (non existent) healthcare system and free/public education...Oh wait, they're even more expensive than anywhere else.
The EU is overreaching in regulation. It's ridiculous.
Adam Smith must be proud.
 
By not offering the feature Apple is complying with the rules. Just because you don’t like how Apple is complying doesn’t mean it isn’t.
I don't care if Apple offers any feature. Also it's not me to decide, but Brussels/Strasbourg. Nobody forces Apple to sell within EU. If they however want to, they should stick to the rules (whatever the rules are).

When I want to visit someone I also have to stick to their (house)rules. I either accept, or I refuse and don't visit them.
 
I don't care if Apple offers any feature. Also it's not me to decide, but Brussels/Strasbourg. Nobody forces Apple to sell within EU. If they however want to, they should stick to the rules (whatever the rules are).

When I want to visit someone I also have to stick to their (house)rules. I either accept, or I refuse and don't visit them.
I agree with this 100% Even if the laws are counterproductive, idiotic, and bad, like I think the EU's DMA and USB-C laws are, companies absolutely have to follow the laws in the countries they operate in. If a law is so egregious Apple would rather break it than comply, then it's time to leave the country/geographic area.

And as bad as (I think) the DMA is, it is absolutely not worth Apple leaving the EU over. Fighting it in courts, complying to the least extent possible, and getting the American government to push back on its European counterparts: absolutely Apple should do all of that. But if that doesn't work out in Apple's favor, they have to comply.

The UK's anti-encryption law is one that I would say is worth Apple leaving a country over.
 
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