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Very unlikely as the optimized battery charging exists on the older iPhones, which means they are capable of holding at 80%…
This is something different from optimized charging though. If they were the same, Apple would just update Optimized Charging (which is based on machine learning of your usage). However, this charging feature exists alongside Optimized Charging on iPhone 15 models: "With iPhone 15 models, you can choose between Optimized Battery Charging, 80% Limit, and None." That's two different things (plus "None").

Also, "Optimized charging is designed to engage only in locations where you spend the most time, such as your home and place of work. The feature doesn't engage when your usage habits are more variable, such as when you travel."

This 80% (plus the new options coming) is not limited by location.

All I'm saying is that people assuming there is no hardware difference with the iPhone 15 that might explain this feature being limited to iPhone 15 models are focusing on only one possible explanation. There are other possibilities (e.g., hardware difference).
 
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But is how Apple is doing the 80% (plus new levels coming) using only a software implementation or might there be specific hardware involved?
The 80% charging als already possible with older devices but just as parting the optimized charging overnight.

I acknowledge that you are a huge apple fan and you won’t believe that they’re locking software feature behind newer models but it’s the case here. Face the reality :)
 
The 80% charging als already possible with older devices but just as parting the optimized charging overnight.

I acknowledge that you are a huge apple fan and you won’t believe that they’re locking software feature behind newer models but it’s the case here. Face the reality :)
You are repeatedly dodging my questions. I'll make it clearer: Do you know with 100% certainty and can provide evidence there is no hardware difference between iPhone 15 models and older iPhones that Apple is using to run this 80% charging feature?

If not, then my point stands.

Also, you are misunderstanding (or misrepresenting) my argument. I freely admit and have multiple times before that Apple very well might be locking this feature using only software behind newer iPhone models. All I'm saying is they also might be doing it because of a hardware feature iPhone 15 models have that older iPhones do not have.

What's wrong with generating an alternative hypothesis? Just because it goes against your beliefs doesn't make it completely invalid.
 
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You are repeatedly dodging my questions. I'll make it clearer: Do you know with 100% certainty and can provide evidence there is no hardware difference between iPhone 15 models and older iPhones that Apple is using to run this 80% charging feature?

If not, then my point stands.

Also, you are misunderstanding (or misrepresenting) my argument. I freely admit and have multiple times before that Apple very well might be locking this feature using only software behind newer iPhone models. All I'm saying is they also might be doing it because of a hardware feature iPhone 15 models have that older iPhones do not have.
Feel free to believe :)
 
Why can't older iPhones do this? Surely if they can "intelligently" limit charging based on habits (which almost never kicks in), then it could "stupidly" do the same when it reaches a pre-defined percentage?
 
Why can't older iPhones do this? Surely if they can "intelligently" limit charging based on habits (which almost never kicks in), then it could "stupidly" do the same when it reaches a pre-defined percentage?
Some Apple Stan’s still believe it’s a hardware reason.
 
If it makes you feel better from what I’ve read, the affect of charging on battery life is non-linear. It has little effect on much of the battery range but increases quickly as you get closer to 100%. That is why most people consider 80% to be a reasonable charge max. Charging lower probably is not significantly better for your battery than 80. But each step up from there has more impact and more impact.
Oh I’m aware that the difference between 50/60/70/80 scales downward, but for someone like myself that charges every night, wakes up and heads to the gym, charges while showering and then again is able to charge at work or in the car, 60% is perfect. I also have a Pro Max.

Not only do I baby my battery because I keep the device for longer (still rocking a 13) nowadays, but because I am a road warrior for work and the extra juice while traveling is important to me. I’m down to only carrying 3 external batteries for my devices: one large bank, one medium sized and one tiny emergency battery that squeezes out 25-30% charge for emergencies.
 
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