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As for macOS, Gurman said Apple has started early work on design changes for that operating system that could debut in 2025 or 2026
I wonder how he figured that Ajax Generative AI enhancements would be a year or two later than iOS 18? :D
 
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so macos will still lag behind for 1 or 2 years. and that is the optimist version,
since there no guarantee that once these changes will come it will solve all the problems macos has accumulated.
more realistically it will need subsequent effort through a few more releases, that will push this for 2+ years.

- the new theme since big sur is horrible and lack consistency.
- there is an ever growing list of bugs.
- macos is restricting all theme customization (user must resort to convoluted hacks, that involve disabling security to get a chance to tweak theme).
- macos lags behind ios, it doesn't even allow choosing font style, or custom font (ios at least has option for bold font)
- still no package manager. (macos must rely on 3rd party)
- no vulkan, no proper opengl (apple could have done an opengl-to-metal, and a vulkan-to-metal,
in the same way they did a d3d-to-metal. but no. apple prefer we suffer).
- no bios (macos mascarading as a 100gb bios, this also means that tweaking partitions or formatting hard drive leads to bricking the laptop, you'd then need to use another mac to bring it back to life ).
- removal of 32bit support
- controller related problems in many games
- cannot boot off external drive anymore
- management of windows and fullscreens is archaïc
- audio management is also archaïc. cannot set per app volume levels.
..... the list goes on

macos is devolving.
i'll get rid of all my apple products. i've had enough of this all.
 
I wonder how big the difference will be... maybe it'll be something like the shift from iOS 6 to iOS 7? 🫢

I certainly hope they never do anything that horrible ever again.

Whenever I power up an old iPhone, it never ceases to amaze me how beautiful it is compared to the ugly mess we've got now.

iOS 7 was the worst-looking thing Apple has ever released, and it sucks that we're still having to live with it.
 
You can already choose 16GB as your personal base if that’s what you want. Stop trying to force your decision on the rest of us.

Are you seriously saying you want LESS RAM? That's a new level of nonsensical.

And no, they shouldn't make 16GB the base configuration for any Mac in 2024.

It should be 32GB.

And minimum 1TB SSD.
 
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Are you seriously saying you want LESS RAM? That's a new level of nonsensical.

And no, they shouldn't make 16GB the base configuration for any Mac in 2024.

It should be 32GB.

And minimum 1TB SSD.
No one is advocating for less RAM, but that's also not what you're asking for. What you're asking for is cheaper RAM. They already sell configs with more than 16GB, so the only reason to complain about the 8GB config is the price.

To be clear, I agree that they overcharge RAM (in all configs, not just the 8GB ones).
 
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Seems like the design for macOS is changed every 6 years or so. Glad that the design of iOS might get some attention. I am definitely looking forward to these new updates!
 
Surprise us all with that iOS 18 works on currently unsupported devices and that they now can update to a cut down but secure iOS18 version and receive updates for a small subscription fee every year. Include all phones that has decent 4G , say from 5S and above.
That’s something I could never see Apple doing. Well, ok, maybe. You want to upgrade your iPhone 11, 12 or 13 to iOS 18 or 19, pay us.
 
It's been 13 years...and MacOS looked better before the revamp with the Aqua scrollbars and other premium elements that set it apart over other desktop operating systems.
Back when MacOS had contrast, when apps could be identified from one another in Mission Control. Now everything is a sea of grey frosted glass and slightly different grey frosted glass.
 
Why can't they bring the same design to macOS the same year?

It would make sense considering macOS looks like iOS right now.

Would also prove that SwiftUI is the go-to framework for cross-apple platform development if they can just copy and paste the code to macOS in the same year. They could flex at WWDC that SwiftUI is was what was used for iOS and macOS's new design.
 
Why can't they bring the same design to macOS the same year?

It would make sense considering macOS looks like iOS right now.

Would also prove that SwiftUI is the go-to framework for cross-apple platform development if they can just copy and paste the code to macOS in the same year. They could flex at WWDC that SwiftUI is was what was used for iOS and macOS's new design.
iOS is their favourite child and everything else is a lesser priority. They put the most effort into bringing things to the phone, and if they succeed there then they look at rolling them out elsewhere.
 
By the way, just a side tangent, but the people who I see saying "give us new features!" the most never actually suggest anything. New just for newness sake isn't necessarily a good thing. Then you're going to have those same people complaining about bugs. It's either complain of lack of freshness or too many bugs.
 
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In 2020 I buy my first Iphone, it was a 12 mini I like it a LOT.
In 2022,I upgrade to the Iphone 14 pro, and I don't like it I don't know why.
I know that IOS 16 was buggy AF (day one) compare to ios 15 and 14.

Now I want to go back to Apple I miss the eco-system, i'm waiting for the Iphone 16/16 pro (no max cuz price and too big).

Apple reportedly pauses iOS 18 development to focus on bugs (There were apparently too many bugs to proceed). We will see.

 
So it'll be more Microsoft-influenced flat design and neumorphism (which is a variant of flat design). How stupid!

Bring back all the skeuomorphic iOS 6 GUI elements, and all the skeuomorphic Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion GUI elements! Also, create skeuomorphic graphics for any newer elements that did not exist in iOS 6 and Mountain Lion.
Aqua was the greatest user interface design language in the entire history of computing IMHO. Microsoft came up with frosted glass in Windows Vista, Vista and 7 were the best-looking versions of Windows but parts of it (especially the scrollbars and buttons) looked like cheap knock-off Aqua. Seeing Bertrand Serlet rip on Vista for being knockoff Aqua is also my favorite WWDC moment of all time (despite being too young to have watched it live).
 
Expecting to see a lot of changes in iOS 18 this year. With a major redesign to macOS, expecting its compatibility to shift to only devices with Apple Silicon.
 
iOS "design changes" means at most two apps will receive some new UI elements but no fundamentally game changing workflows. I would LOVE to be wrong.
 
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