Well my mum has a iPhone 15 & she can’t get Apple intelligence
Yet the s24 series can get AI
Right my son has an iPhone 11 Pro Max & iOS 18 iOS consistently freezing & when he launches the camera app he gets a blank screen
What’s your point
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Yet the s24 series can get AI
Right my son has an iPhone 11 Pro Max & iOS 18 iOS consistently freezing & when he launches the camera app he gets a blank screen
What’s your point
So your logic is that because my parents phone can’t run Apple intelligence then as a consequence of that she should buy a newer iPhone due to a business decision that Apple made to cut a year old phone out additional software.
Yet it will get iOS 19 however it will lose out on software that touches every part of the os from safari to photos so in turn that means it’s getting the exact same treatment as an older iPhone
Yet if you bought an s24 you are getting the AI features and will continue to get software updates for many years from now just like the equivalent iPhone from that year
The business decision they made was to cheap out on memory when they finalized the specs of the iPhone 15. The cut from Apple Intelligence is just a consequence of that.
The iPhones are planned about 2 years in advance of being released as has been previously reported so based on that these iPhones where all ready designed as is with specs & ram
However Apple intelligence was not planned in advance as evidenced by the initial roll out
Of it.
It pretty much looks like when companies like Samsung & google & others rolled out their AI before Apple like on the S24 the tech industry & investors were saying Apple is getting left behind in that AI race.
As a consequence of that they rushed it because if it was actually ready it would have been on iOS 18 for the new iPhones getting released not in 18.1
The intention to me looks like this was meant for iOS 19 because then the iPhone 15’s would have been 2 years old at that point.
Yes. That’s exactly my logic.
Any phone I buy today I don’t buy expecting it to be able to do everything the newer version can do simply bc I bought it a year prior.
You can still buy a brand new iPhone 14. Should I be mad that it can’t run something since as you said iPhones are planned at least 2 generations in advance meaning using your own logic, the 14 should have AI
lol and within 2 years things change.
I’m glad Apple isn’t doing the android thing and sabotaging performance for the sake of saying it has this feature
Oh well Tim Cook your right we should all just abandon our year old iPhone & buy a new one just to get Apple intelligence
Well is that not your complaint about android if I buy a phone a year ago I shouldn’t be expecting a newer version on it?
That is different because if you buy a 14 your getting it from a 3rd party and not on the actual website brand new
But it’s not 2 years it’s one year & that’s the difference so are you saying that Apple launched an iPhone that they knew couldn’t run Apple intelligence or was google & Samsung more prepared for AI & ahead of Apple
Because there phones launched before with AI built in & they get software updates where as 4 iPhones released at the same time 2 get different versions of iOS 18 yet that’s not happened with the S24 series
if you want Apple intelligence then yes.
Just like if you want usb c then you need to get a 16.
Idk why that’s difficult for you to accept.
Most people buy their phones from a carrier so it’s not third party. Third party would be me buying a used iPhone.
No that’s not my complaint. You try to move the goal posts quite often.
My point was android phones launch with outdated OS versions and don’t get properly updated.
If you buy an iPhone 16, you should expect proper and frequent updates.
You should expect an iPhone 16 to have every capability of an iPhone 17. Make it make sense.
Apple launched an iPhone that served the capabilities it was meant to serve when it was launched.
No matter how you want to try and frame it, you’re wrong lol.
It’s already been proven that Apple was behind on AI. So this is irrelevant.
There’s no different versions of iOS 18 lol. Let’s not be melodramatic.
Every iPhone form the xr to the 16 have iOS 18. Every iPhone doesn’t have apple intelligence.
Again you keep mentioning s24. Samsung s series doesn’t even make up the bulk of android phones sold.
Again irrelevant.
yes you are trying to prove some point that according to yourself it’s disgraceful that android manufacturers sell smartphones with old versions of the OS or don’t get much updates
Yet when people buy them phones they probably don’t care if it’s not consistently supported or else they wouldn’t buy it in the first place.
If they want android devices with 7 years of support you have the Samsung S series or the pixels I believe if your that interested because they advertise that
on a side note safari on my iPhone is different from my parents & we both have iOS 18 on our phones?
Because it is disgraceful.
There’s no reason any manufacturer should be selling android 12 phone or tablet in 2025.
Just like all you usb c fans say. There’s no reason to be selling products nowadays with outdated technology.
Not only are the products deficient in features they also don’t have proper security.
As someone who worked in mobile phones industry, yes they do care.
You are trying to make it an all or nothing thing.
People buy cheaper phones due to price and also due to kids.
They do however friend when their friend has an android phone running android 12 and is unable to use features bc they’re running a 5 plus year old operating system.
Never mind the fragmentation of android where this cheap android has nfc/tap to pay but this other one that’s of equal value has nfc.
This is not about hardware capabilities. If you’re buying $40 android phone you shouldn’t expect a quality camera. But I should expect it to be running a moder OS.
No other company is selling old versions of their software. At least not directly.
Imagine Microsoft selling windows 7 and we are on windows 11.
I’m not interested bc I refuse to ever use an android product again.
But yay for Google and Samsung joining Apple in properly supporting their devices I guess.
Even if s series and pixels aren’t even the bulk of android devices so that argument means nothing.
Stop being facetious. Your safari isn’t different. Safari has all the same basic features.
If you’re talking about on iPhone 16, you have Apple intelligence built into safari since Apple intelligence is a part of that phone. That’s not a safari thing. That’s an Apple intelligence.
Safari on my 16 pm and my 13 perform the same.
If you are buy a $40 dollar mobile device then you don’t ultimately care what OS it has on it & it’s not possible for that company to offer multiple OS updates.
if Samsung & google offer 7 years of updates then that is not because the majority of their customers are demanding it it’s because they think they can entice Apple customers over with adding that additional offering.
I’ve never once been asked oh see this Motorola phone how many OS updates will this thing get if people want these android phone then they don’t care
It would make no odds if companies like oppo & asus offer multiple software updates because it wouldn’t increase sales anyway and it would actually decrease their revenue
Your words Your safari isn’t different. Safari has all the same basic features
But it’s still different & that is the exact same as if you have a XS or 11 you don’t receive things that iPhones above that get on iOS 18 according to apples on iOS 18 page at the very bottom
Why do you care if android OEM’s choose to do that you will never buy an android product anyway
And again when you buy a phone REGARDLESS of the price and it can’t do a feature you expect bc it is running an outdated OS that your friends phone has yes people do care.
My brother was trying to buy his younger kid a phone. So he got some prepaid android phone.
Never mind the fact that there was a specific feature for family security he wanted to be able to use with his son but couldn’t bc the android was OUTDATED.
Half of the apps the son wanted to use weren’t comparable with his android version lmao.
So yes that is disgraceful lmao and a lot of ppl don’t know that their phones may lack certain features they expect.
Again I literally sold phones for a living so it’s my job to know this and experience.
Thankfully he was intelligent enough to switch over and get an iPhone for his entire family and the kid got an old SE gen 2 and is able to run current iOS and aside from the lack of Apple intelligence, is running just fine.
I have since mostly gotten everyone of my loved ones and friends on Apple except one.
Making my original point. Even at the oldest and lowest end of iPhones running the latest OS you still are properly supported.
I’d rather use an iPhone XS over any new android crap bc I know my phone is still properly supported.
There’s nothing you can say to argue against that.
It has little to too with getting solemn users to switch bc Apple users who are fans of Apple would never switch to An inferior ecosystem and product.
Lmao they’re doing the bare minimum because it has been a major complaint since androids inception in 2009 and to curb the fragmentation of android.
Anecdotal
Irrelevant.
Again that isn’t a safari thing. It’s an Ale intelligence thing which I already said and refuse to accept.
I’m currently eating Oreos. My brother loves double stuff Oreos. I don’t.
They’re both Oreos and has the same flavor. Just one has more filling because….wait for it. That’s how it was made.
You can’t get mad that the normal Oreos don’t have more filling bc it wasn’t made that way.
Let’s be real.
I don’t care. You’ve spent days trying to defend android.lmao.
This thread is about iOS 19 features & what phones will get supported & features wise
Yet your the individual that mentioned android
There are plus & minus to both OS’s & it’s just fantasy to say other wise
That is fine if you have a great experience on iOS however I have family members who prefer Samsung phones
It’s just a matter of opinion
However you want to frame it
It’s relevant because companies like Motorola don’t sell that many phones so it would be no point for them to constantly offer 5 years of OS updates because it would not increase sales because they don’t sell their phones at the volume that Apple do
That is why they don’t where as Apple sell over 200 odd million a year so it’s in there interest for continued support.
How do you square that circle that you would rather use a XS right now that’s about to not get iOS 19 the next version
Than a Samsung S24 that will get continued support for next 6 years
So that says to me that it’s not about OS support for you just that you don’t like android
I made an off hand comment. You decided to try and defend android.
Bless their hearts.
Smaller companies than Motorola do update their device. Not an excuse.
nobody except Samsung sales close to Apple and yet other OEMs still support better than Motorola so that’s irrelevant.
Motorola doesn’t sell bc their cameras suck and because of their poor update policies.
As someone who unfortunately used android for over a decade, any android fan will tell you why they will never use or buy a Motorola.
I used to be an avid Motorola girl since the 1.5 android days. Stood in line for the Og droid. Had even some of their more gimmicky phones (the atrix, the cliq, the bionic, the droid razrs) and even most recently the moto razr.
I will say Motorola is consistently mediocre.
Motorola doesn’t sell bc there are significantly better phones than their G series and razr with better cameras. Better specs. And better update policies.
Motorola is not some small company. Its lack of sales is no excuse when other smaller companies do properly update their devices.
No matter how you try to make excuses.
Android has had a terrible reputation for a lack of updates. It’s only now getting better but that is not going to sway most iOS fans.
I never said I’d rather use an xs over an s24(which to be fair I probably would rather use it).
I was saying a 6-7 year old xs is preferable to a new budget android phone (Samsung a series)
I don’t. It’s terrible.
Ok buddy if you think that it’s a disgrace that some android OEM’s don’t support multiple OS updates then that’s fine
However it’s not correct to say that for example the S25 will get less support than the equivalent iPhone 16 model
Well it depends when you bought the XS if you bought it when it first came out for $1000 dollars then of course I would expect it to be better than the A series considering its costs half of that price.
However nobody is going to go from a $1000 dollar phone to a $500 dollar one on a different OS & expect the same experience what you will get is I believe multiple years worth of software updates
No what you mean is it’s not going to sway people like yourself however it must be working or else Samsung & google wouldn’t offer it now unlike before it’s been done to deliberately target customers away from iOS that use your argument about lack of OS updates
Nope. Idk if you’re aware but it’s 2025.
People aren’t switching ecosystems like we used to in 2012.
Between 2009-2013 I was rocking android, windows phone, webos, iOS and blackberry
Up until 2015 I was solidly windows phone
Up until 2019 I was android
By 2021 I was mostly iOS with sown Android and now in 2025 all iOS
People have already chosen their preferred platform because there’s only two choices.
People aren’t upgrading as often as we used to and people are not jumping ship.
Samsung nor Google still don’t sell close to what Apple does in their flagship.
The update policy isn’t too convince iOS users to go to android bc no iOS fan would do that. It’s an inferior OS
It’s to APPEASE the criticism Android fans have
I’d use a xs now over any Samsung a series phone lmao.
Keep in mind Samsung s24 are now just getting Android 15 update lmao. And android 15 has been out since October of last year lmao.
And that’s a high end android phone lmao.
Not to mention that the s23 and older won’t be getting it till later this summer lmao.
And android 16 will be officially launched this fall.
So god knows when it’ll get the newest version.
You do understand that Samsung don’t actually make android so they generally need to wait for googles more or less final build & then Samsung has to put one UI on top & that takes time
Where as Apple make both OS & hardware so that is why it’s easier to roll out updates to their devices on the same day.
Samsung is actually closing the gap on Apple on multiple different levels from design to software support & price point
The 7 year update strategy is not designed for existing android customers it’s to appeal to Apple customers who want to switch to them because that is an additional appeal that removes people like yourself saying look at android you will be lucky to get any updates with it.
Of course you would use a $1000 dollar device over a $500 one
As I fully expect it to take better photos however if your talking software wise right now & the XS is not going to receive any OS major OS updates going forward then that shows your comment about software & how continued support is important to you that you would continue to use a device that no longer receives major OS updates.
No what you mean is people like yourself are not switching
Again that is good that going forward the iPhone 11 will get iOS 19 however it will miss out on features as it has done for iOS 18 according to apples on website it tells you that devices in the iPhone 12 won’t get these features & the same will happen with the iPhone 12 lineup on iOS 19
So yes your correct that Apple support multiple iPhones with OS support but to get them to run smoothly on older devices they remove features from the OS & eventually get you to upgrade your device
Again it’s not difficult when android 16 launches in the fall it will go straight on pixel devices just like Apple does with IOS because it makes the OS & hardware
And because the other android OEM put their own skin on top of android then that’s why it takes longer to roll out updates now you obviously know this but are choosing to leave that out to make some kind of point to people who don’t actually know that
You’re making excuses. And thus the argument you’re attempting to make fails
So you acknowledge that Apple is superior in this way then compared to lost Android OEM.
Thank you for proving my point.
Design? You’re really reaching here.
Samsung has essentially had the same iterate design for their last few models both on s series, flip, folds and the a series.
The boxy look is ugly. But that is subjective.
Samsung features are half baked much like Apple intelligence but again subjective.
Price? Not really.
Directly from Samsung and apples websites
iPhone 16e- $599
Samsung 24 fe- 649.99
Now Samsung does have a discount
S24 for 699
iPhone 16-799
But you can offset that also with an iPhone 15 which is $699.99
But then the Samsung 24+ is more than the iPhone 16 plus and pro max
Also the Samsung s24 ultra is $1500 vs the iPhone 16 pro max at 1199
So no Samsung doesn’t beat Apple intelligence price lmao.
And when you look at the s25 lineup prices, Samsung matches Apple lmao
It is designed for current Android users bc that is a major complaint for Android users.
Again long before I became the sassy bartender and future lawyer, I was a phone dealer. And unfortunately an Android fan.
I stayed on sites like macrumors but Android equivalent discussing this daily.
iOS users aren’t switching to Android bc they now have longer updates.
If you look up trends and stats there are more people switching from Android to iPhone because of apples reputation and image but also the ecosystem and accessories.
There are less people switching from iPhone to Android and those who are switching are essentially power users aka macrumors type who actually care about specific capabilities such as customization and OPEN. Not your everyday user.
A 2018 iPhone XS is not valued at $1000 in 2025 so that is a terrible take.
A 2018 iPhone XS is still better than most $500 androids today.
You’re missing the point. It got 6-7 years of support.
Please show me what 2018 Android has gotten that.
Oh wait. You can’t.
Of course not. Bc we chose a superior Os.
Of course it will miss out on features. My surface from 2020 has windows 11. Should I blame Microsoft bc I’m don’t have all the capabilities that a 2025 surface has to run copilot.
Please be so for real.
You can’t criticize a company for supporting their products bc they don’t bring every feature to older products.
I honestly wouldn’t have upgraded from my iPhone 15 if it wasn’t for the camera and phone being broken.
Apple is not making us upgrade. I upgrade bc I want to lmao.
I use an iPhone 13 as well for my work phone. I’d be fine using it.
And pixel don’t make up the bulk of Android devices. Meaning the majority of androids will be waiting 6 months to a year and by then we will be on Android 17.
What’s the point of bragging about longer updates if you take forever to release them lmao.
Even windows phone as terrible as they were had a better update track record.
And that’s why the bulk of iOS users will never switch to Android.
I know why it takes too long to update. I’ve owned over 80 plus androids in my lifetime. I don’t need you to explain the process to me.
You can stop thing to justify android and defend it to me bc my stance is not going to change lol.
It’s an inferior platform and they’ve only now started actually caring about their older products and the clientele that still uses them because they know people aren’t upgrading as fast as they have before.
What are you on about?
Apple roll out the core OS as every device that it supports so that is why it all gets released on the same day
Where as google make a core version of android if you have a pixel 8 for example you can get android 16 beta 1 right now
Samsung & other OEM’s can’t do that because they don’t put the core OS onto their devices so then they have to wait to about August to get the final build & that is why it takes longer on android phones like Samsung
Because windows phones were made by the same company that made hardware & software so it’s more easier to roll out said update.
You can’t have it 2 ways on one hand your moaning about lack of updates on android and on the other when companies like Samsung & google actually do support you then say I don’t care any way I wouldn’t even switch anyway?
But we have just established you don’t keep your main iphone for 6 to 7 years so I don’t get your point or else you would still be using a XS right now & not a 15 or 16
So the long updates don’t actually mean that much to you if you personally don’t keep your device that long anyway
The difference is buddy you might have a XS or an iPhone 11 series & you may have iOS 18 but you are missing features that other devices get & that is why on the iOS 18 page it gives describes all these features available & then tucked at the very bottom it tells you certain features are not available on certain devices. The reason why they do that is so it gives the impression that people on a XS right up to 16PM is basically getting the same OS update.
if it’s an inferior OS in your opinion & you will never switch because of lack of updates that is a valid point if that is important to you when you purchase a mobile device
Then google & Samsung now offer multiple years of updates & that’s still not good enough for you
Then what is the point in bringing android up in relation to iOS 19 supported devices when you obviously don’t care about android yet you have chosen to bring them into the conversation.
There are people who use Samsung devices and they will never use iOS & are happy to wait for their updates because they enjoy the OS
No. They weren’t. In fact up until windows 10 when Microsoft owned Nokia they were made by dell, htc, Samsung, Lg, Nokia, Sony, Zte, Kyocera, Alcatel, and many other OEMs.
And let’s not forget windows mobile (the version before windows phone).
So that’s false.
No I may a one off comment and you have been going on another this for days.
Because I wouldn’t lol.
Okay and millions of others do.
I already told you I only upgraded bc my camera and screen were cracked.
I’m also using a 13 and I have no desire to upgrade it at least until the current 16 are down in price (3-4 years from now) so you’re not making a point.
If I wanted to, I would lmao. I don’t want to.
But there are millions who do keep their devices for years.
iPhone mini users are a prime example. People on this very forum will keep their iPhone 12 minis till they die and replace the battery holding out hope for a skills device one day.
I know several customers working with mobiles who literally only updated their iPhones bc the 3g shutdown happened a couple of years back.
They largely did so because Apple cared enough to support their phones as long as they did.
Your perception.
Anyone with common sense is not going to be upset their iPhone 11 can’t run Apple intelligence.
You’re not making Any sense lmao.
Of course I’m missing features. It’s an older phone running an advanced OS version.
Even Android does the same thing with their devices.
Well you finally said something I agree with.
Well largely bc I can and I was comparing the update process for iOS and Android and you have spent nearly a week arguing with me about this.
I made a one off comment and you turned it into a very redundant argument about an android and it’s merits lmao.
Well bless their hearts.
Also to make a point. The pixel 5 was released in 2020 and it had all support dropped for Os Updates by 2023.
Meanwhile the iPhone 12 was also released in 2020 is still continuously receiving updates
Which literally deflates the redundancy in your argument that because Google (like Apple) makes hardware and software they have control over updates.
that’s sad in my
Opinion. I’m sure you’ll have some way to flip it as Google is somehow better.
lol this conversation will be going on for the remainder of the year I can tell haha
Hi buddy
It’s not about Apple intelligence
It’s about the XS series & the 11 series not getting the same features as the iPhone 12 and above yet that is not how it’s shown
It gets made out as if all of these models will get this stuff
Yet if you go onto apples iOS 18 page & scroll down to the very bottom it tells you that this is not available under iPhone 12
And that is not available under iPhone 12
And so on
Then come iOS 19 they will then do the same for the iPhone 12 series just like they have done for every mobile that has been at the bottom 2 series on the list
Based on your logic regarding android being inferior then if that’s the case & the Samsung s series is dearer compared with the iPhone then why do people buy them if in your opinion it’s that superior an OS & it’s based on how quickly people get updates & how long they wait for them.
What features did the xs and 11 bit get that the 12 got?
because it’s literally about Apple intelligence which every iPhone except the 15 pro max didn’t get.
I upgraded my 11 to a 13. There is literally no difference between the two except a better battery and I have double the base storage.
So let’s move on from that bc you’re not making any sense.
Anyone who has an iPhone XS-15 plus largely has the same iOS capabilities.
They don’t have Apple intelligence
Samsung galaxies generally don’t outsell iPhone.
I never denied that Android is popular. It’s still inferior.
McDonald’s food is inferior food but millions eat it daily. I’m guilty of it myself. Doesn’t mean it’s good lmao.
So your point is invalid.
It’s on the Apple website buddy for iOS 18 page it gives you examples of all the things that you get with iOS 18 as you go down the page
Then when you get to the very bottom it then tells you that this feature is not available on anything under an iPhone 12
& so on & so on
The reason why they do that is to give the illusion that everyone is getting these features
- Available on iPhone 12 and later in English (Australia), English (Canada), English (Ireland), English (New Zealand), English (South Africa), English (UK), and English (U.S.).
- Available on iPhone 12 and later and iPhone SE (3rd generation).
- Available on iPhone 12 and later.
Buddy
It’s the fact that in some instances they are dearer & people continue to buy them over the cheaper iPhone equivalent
Now if it’s so inferior an OS then people wouldn’t continue to buy them especially at that price point & as you claim regarding how slow it is to get OS updates because if that was the case then customers would stop buying them
If as you a claiming that android is popular because it’s essentially cheaper
Then why would customers buy expensive android devices if they are getting a poorer experience than a cheaper iPhone
If it’s all about software support
So I’m going to be honest with you. This conversation has gotten old to me days ago but I kept it going hoping you were going to make a sound argument against anything I’ve said.
You have not and I’m growing tired of the redundancy.
You’re implying that Apple is trying to mislead people into thinking they are getting all iOS 18 features yet you yourself admit that Apple literally tells you in the footnotes any more restrictions about features in certain models.
You’re criticizing Apple for not having the live dictation transcription feature available for xs and 11 phones that they CLEARLY state is only available for 12 and later.
Make it make sense.
The Xs and 11 have an older chip that is not compatible with that chip and apple
Is clearly telling you what phones can do it.
That’s not a con. That’s being fully transparent.
Yes all iPhones xs-16 can run iOS 18. You’re not getting a different version of iOS 18 bc there is only one version of iOS 18.
Some phones do have more capabilities because…wait for it….some phones are more powerful and therefore can run features that others can’t without sacrificing performance.
That’s common sense.
In fact, the only Samsung phones in global sales charts usually are the A series. Which is….wait for it….a budget phone. It’s not bc they are better than iPhones. They are cheaper than iPhones lmao.
Mainly out of habit. So that’s false.
Android is popular bc it’s cheap lol. I can go to my local dollar general and literally get an Android for $29.99 lmao.
I got this Android tablet literally for free when I bought my phone.
The bulk of android phones sold ARE not high end galaxy or pixels lmao. On the flip side, Apple usually sells more pro model iPhones than their base models.
If I have used Android all my life and started wit a cheap Android I’m likely to stay with Android as I get the finances to buy a better Android.
It’s similar to me with windows. In school I was raised and taught on windows. So in my mind Microsoft was the best.
I had a cheap windows laptop and netbook. I later when I had my own money upgraded to premium surface products.
It wasn’t until I got into my 20s when I realized Microsoft and windows is terrible in many ways and the only reason why it’s still popular is largely bc it’s accessible at such a cheap price point. Or for gaming.
I’ve since switched to Mac OS.
When people are used to something they will largely stick with it. Even if Annoys them.
Same with Android. I have friends complain about their Android phones but then refuse to switch to IOS simply bc they are so used to Android.
Which is fair. It’s hard to get ppl to break habit and routine.
Never mind The fact that Apple has a premium reputation that ironically turns a lot of ppl for bc of their higher price tag on most products so they see it as a rich persons luxury item therefore they dismiss it.
In conclusion, let this topic die unless you can actually come up with a sound argument against anything I’ve said because you’ve not and you’re only furthering proving my points lol
You have not and I’m growing tired of the redundancy.
Lmao this is why this conversation is soon over. Because your arguments make no sense.
You’re implying that Apple is trying to mislead people into thinking they are getting all iOS 18 features yet you yourself admit that Apple literally tells you in the footnotes any more restrictions about features in certain models.
You’re criticizing Apple for not having the live dictation transcription feature available for xs and 11 phones that they CLEARLY state is only available for 12 and later.
Make it make sense.
The Xs and 11 have an older chip that is not compatible with that chip and apple
Is clearly telling you what phones can do it.
That’s not a con. That’s being fully transparent.
Yes all iPhones xs-16 can run iOS 18. You’re not getting a different version of iOS 18 bc there is only one version of iOS 18.
Some phones do have more capabilities because…wait for it….some phones are more powerful and therefore can run features that others can’t without sacrificing performance.
That’s common sense.
In most global sales stats, Samsung s phones are never in the top 10 phones sold. But iPhones are. Multiple models at that.
In fact, the only Samsung phones in global sales charts usually are the A series. Which is….wait for it….a budget phone. It’s not bc they are better than iPhones. They are cheaper than iPhones lmao.
I religiously used Android from 2009-2023 despite knowing how crappy it was.
Mainly out of habit. So that’s false.
Android is popular bc it’s cheap lol. I can go to my local dollar general and literally get an Android for $29.99 lmao.
I got this Android tablet literally for free when I bought my phone.
The bulk of android phones sold ARE not high end galaxy or pixels lmao. On the flip side, Apple usually sells more pro model iPhones than their base models.
If I have used Android all my life and started wit a cheap Android I’m likely to stay with Android as I get the finances to buy a better Android.
It’s similar to me with windows. In school I was raised and taught on windows. So in my mind Microsoft was the best.
I had a cheap windows laptop and netbook. I later when I had my own money upgraded to premium surface products.
It wasn’t until I got into my 20s when I realized Microsoft and windows is terrible in many ways and the only reason why it’s still popular is largely bc it’s accessible at such a cheap price point. Or for gaming.
I’ve since switched to Mac OS.
When people are used to something they will largely stick with it. Even if Annoys them.
Same with Android. I have friends complain about their Android phones but then refuse to switch to IOS simply bc they are so used to Android.
Which is fair. It’s hard to get ppl to break habit and routine.
Never mind The fact that Apple has a premium reputation that ironically turns a lot of ppl for bc of their higher price tag on most products so they see it as a rich persons luxury item therefore they dismiss it.
In conclusion, let this topic die unless you can actually come up with a sound argument against anything I’ve said because you’ve not and you’re only furthering proving my points lol
No what I said was that Apple give the impression that every device that gets iOS 18 will receive all these features & it’s only when you dig into the small print you discover that you don’t & they will do the exact same for the iPhone 12 series on iOS 19 have it miss out on certain features just so it can run smoothly
Then claim look at all the devices we support
The reason why you don’t get fundamentally the same exact same software experience on the XS & 11 series
Like for example missing certain things in the weather app
Is because they want you to upgrade said device it is not in Apple’s interest as a company to keep the majority of there customers on the same device for 6 to 7 years
That is why someone on a XS that came out in 2018 will not get essentially the same OS as someone on a iPhone 13 or 14 series
Now they might get the core OS as your alluding to here
But certain things will be withheld
That is why when the iPhone 4s got iOS 9 it was a disaster for it & shouldn’t have gotten it
So since then the bottom 2 tier iPhones are deliberately missing features as a consequence of that & they have done it every year like clockwork.
if the bulk of android devices are sold because they are cheap & nothing else
Then that doesn’t explain why people buy an S24 or s25 ultra over the equivalent highest iPhone available if said iPhone is cheaper & not do with they think the device is better on a number of levels compared with iPhone offering