iOS 19 Expected to Run on These iPhones

[0049190]

Well, the problem sounds it’s you lol

Who said there was a problem? I understand some people get excited by iOS updates. I don’t have a problem with that. Live and let live as they say.

I used to get excited by iOS updates but now I can honestly say I can’t tell the difference from one version to the next. That’s probably my fault for not being more curious but iOS has become so complicated now.

 

[scorpio vega]

Does pixel phones not get software updates for years now?

Does the flagship Samsung phones not get updates for years now?

I think your a bit confused about only getting one software update from android if you buy a cheap android then of course that will be the case

Still not an excuse. And I wish android fans would stop using that as an excuse to defend what is a deficiency in that ecosystem

Flagship Samsung and pixels don’t even make up the bulk of android sales.

There are other flagship devices at flagship prices from other oems that still barely get updates.

Nobody is talking about about the $29.99 android phone you get at Walmart running android 12 in 2025 when 16 is around the corner lmao.

 

[Stuwil]

Of course it is. But I was originally referring to the post joking about how iOS 19 would run poorly on the iPhone 11, which I don’t expect it to do.

Yes i agree it will actually run well because of what Apple will do with it

 

[allseeingi’s]

Should have kept my iPhone 11 Pro Max, that was the best phone, never really liked my 14 Pro.

I passed my 11 Pro Max to my wife when upgrading to the 13PM , the battery health is 85% . I concur it’s still a great phone .

 

[Stuwil]

Still not an excuse. And I wish android fans would stop using that as an excuse to defend what is a deficiency in that ecosystem

Flagship Samsung and pixels don’t even make up the bulk of android sales.

There are other flagship devices at flagship prices from other oems that still barely get updates.

Nobody is talking about about the $29.99 android phone you get at Walmart running android 12 in 2025 when 16 is around the corner lmao.

what excuse are you going on if you buy an android phone & it only gets one or two software updates then your obviously not that fussed about it or you wouldn’t buy it in the first place

Ok so some OEM’s charge big money for devices that barely get updates what’s wrong with that if the customer is ok with it and it depends on how long you keep your mobile for it’s not going to suddenly stop working

If you purchase an android device running android 12 in 2025 then you obliviously don’t care that much

 

[AndiG]

I understand some people get excited by iOS updates.

But, can you tell me why?

- New emoji?
- Broken Mail?
- Broken Calendar?
- Broken whatever - not to mention broken battery live?

When exactly did you notice, „wow, how cool“ the last time after an iOS update? Was there a „wow, new Photos app?“.
Honestly, the last cool thing was ocr text recognition in photos and the text based search in the Photos app searching for text appearance or things.

Thats all since -I don’t remember - iOS12? But there is another cool feature I forgot to mention: Taking a screenshot can now easily save a pdf of the complete website which is really useful sometimes.

 

[ZipZilla]

Love to see 7 years of updates. Samsung is doing the same thing. Glad to see abandonware is slowly becoming a thing of the past

 

[Stuwil]

Love to see 7 years of updates. Samsung is doing the same thing. Glad to see abandonware is slowly becoming a thing of the past

That’s great offering updates but who actually keeps their smartphone for 7 years
Anyway

 

[Zaft]

Apple’s own website tells you on the iOS 18 page at the very bottom that iPhones under the iPhone 12 that these phones are missing features
That is what they do as your iPhone gets older like the bottom tier ones on the list they don’t get every feature so the iPhone still runs well

Can you name one?

 

[PPCmike]

The 12 is still on the list but most likely will be switching to something else this year as I just had the battery changed and looking to see what's going to be offered this year This has been the longest I've kept a single phone.

 

[Zaft]

The 12 is still on the list but most likely will be switching to something else this year as I just had the battery changed and looking to see what's going to be offered this year This has been the longest I've kept a single phone.

My 12 PM still works great.

 

[jblank]

I’m happy many of you still like the 11. I had one when it came out and it always seemed slow to me and I dumped it as soon as the 12 came out. The 11 was probably the iPhone I was least happy with.

 

[Novius89]

Good, I will change my battery from my 12 mini at Apple and run this phone into the ground, hoping there will be a mini model again in two/three years.

I was hoping for a foldable phone as a replacement for the mini, but I will never pay 1000+ for a phone, let alone 2500 😂… insanity

 

[Stuwil]

Can you name one?

why would the official iOS 18 page on Apple’s website say at the bottom of the page that certain features under iPhone 12 are excluded from getting it.

Plus think just about it logically why would a 7 or 6 year old mobile be able to run every feature available from iOS 18 & still be able to run fine.

 

[oldmacs]

Again interesting to see iPad A12/3GB supports iPadOS 19. But A12/4GB on iPhone won't run iOS 19.

It's all arbitrary - the iPad/iPhone support split has made that so obvious in the last few years.

 

[Stuwil]

It's all arbitrary - the iPad/iPhone support split has made that so obvious in the last few years.

The reason why older iPads generally get supported longer than iPhones is generally because it’s viewed differently at Apple

 

[subjonas]

Should be a mandatory 10 years for current OS, and another 10 for security updates. As in, it should be illegal to sell a phone without AT LEAST a decade of current OS support, and another decade of current OS updates or security patches. Failure to maintain support means the company buys back the phone at original release price or the CEO goes to prison for the rest of the time it should have been supported.

7 years is NOT reasonable.

Who is to judge what is reasonable?

I think the only objectively reasonable expectation is for the device to continue its offline functionality for as long as the hardware works (eg. playing movie files, taking/viewing pictures, typing offline notes, offline games, etc), because it requires no additional work or support from anyone. But to keep your device connected to the world, ie. any online functionality, requires someone somewhere to put in the work to keep your device compatible because the world keeps moving. Of course there is an expectation that online functionality continues for some period of time after purchase. And that period of support is built into the price of the phone, app, etc. But how much of the purchase price goes toward support and how long that support should last, is pretty hard to determine objectively. If users continually paid developers specifically to keep their device supported, that would be a different story. One could expect indefinite support then. But my guess is it would get more and more difficult to support over time and there would be diminishing returns, and probably therefore no market for that.

 

[Stuwil]

Who is to judge what is reasonable?

I think the only objectively reasonable expectation is for the device to continue its offline functionality for as long as the hardware works (eg. playing movie files, taking/viewing pictures, typing offline notes, offline games, etc), because it requires no additional work or support from anyone. But to keep your device connected to the world, ie. any online functionality, requires someone somewhere to put in the work to keep your device compatible because the world keeps moving. Of course there is an expectation that online functionality continues for some period of time after purchase. And that period of support is built into the price of the phone, app, etc. But how much of the purchase price goes toward support and how long that support should last, is pretty hard to determine objectively. If users continually paid developers specifically to keep their device supported, that would be a different story. One could expect indefinite support then. But my guess is it would get more and more difficult to support over time and there would be diminishing returns, and probably therefore no market for that.

I generally understand that Apple support their iPhones for 5 plus years
And now google & Samsung have started it with 7 years
But in all my many years I’ve never known someone to keep a smartphone that long anyway

Fair play to someone who bought a XS when it came out & is stilling using it in 2025

 

[ZipZilla]

Looks like our 13's will have a couple of more good years.

Agreed. Until Apple fixes Siri, there is zero reason to buy a new iPhone

 

[subjonas]

I generally understand that Apple support their iPhones for 5 plus years
And now google & Samsung have started it with 7 years
But in all my many years I’ve never known someone to keep a smartphone that long anyway

Fair play to someone who bought a XS when it came out & is stilling using it in 2025

I used my SE1 for six years haha. I would have used it longer if a particular app I needed hadn’t stopped working properly on it and if I hadn't broken it trying to change the battery.
Not sure how long Apple supports, but I know their devices still get the most critical security patches for awhile after they lose official support, making them still pretty usable as long as the apps you use are still functional.

 

[scorpio vega]

what excuse are you going on if you buy an android phone & it only gets one or two software updates then your obviously not that fussed about it or you wouldn’t buy it in the first place

Ok so some OEM’s charge big money for devices that barely get updates what’s wrong with that if the customer is ok with it and it depends on how long you keep your mobile for it’s not going to suddenly stop working

If you purchase an android device running android 12 in 2025 then you obliviously don’t care that much

Still making excuses.

anyway as I said, good on Apple still supporting devices from 2018-2019

 

[Stuwil]

Still making excuses.

anyway as I said, good on Apple still supporting devices from 2018-2019

Do you still use an iPhone XS in 2025?

Now that the pixel’s & flagship Samsung’s offer 7 years of OS updates are you going to switch because of it?

It’s not an excuse if you buy android then it’s obviously not that important to you or you wouldn’t buy the product in the first place

The reason why pixel & flagship Samsungs now offer 7 years is because they want to entice Apple’s customers to purchase their products

I personally have an iPhone & your lucky if I keep mine for 12 to 18 months at a time so it doesn’t actually fundamentally affect me if I buy the product or not

I suppose it’s good if companies support their devices for years if you want to keep the thing for 5 to 7 years

 

[Hopefully Smarter]

iPhone 11 is on the list. that means I can survive one more year with a phone that doesn’t even know that Apple Intelligence even exists.

Huzzah!

Keeping my phone till Tim Cook resigns, retires or is ridiculed out of his chair

 

[scorpio vega]

Do you still use an iPhone XS in 2025?

Do I? No.

Do millions of others? Sure.

Your point?

And no I would never switch to android because android is a terrible operating system

 

[cubbie5150]

NGL, I'm a bit surprised my iPhone SE (2020 version) apparently will support 19, well, at least according to this rumor.