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I always have messages synced with iCloud. I have toggled that switch and forced a full sync and rendexing multiple times and it doesn’t work for me. I’ve tried to turn off iCloud sync and download and disable and that doesn’t work either. I’ve turned off search and iMessage and signed out of Apple account and then signed back in, turned on iMessage and search/ Siri and still doesn’t work. All things being considered, it’s an annoyance vs other functions. My work around is to set up albums in photos for those contacts I want the photos and download and save to that contacts album in photos app.

It seems to be a widespread but random bug.
Weird. The difference with me is I never use messages in the cloud! Only turn it on when I’ve updated major iOS updates and my photos in threads are not showing up then turn it right back off. This has always worked for me going on 3 or 4 times now after a major update. That’s a bummer it’s not working for you. I hope they can sort this out for everyone and one of their engineers is looking at the threads. It really should just work but it doesn’t!
 
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No one’s asking you to stop blaming Apple bud. We blame Apple for their crappy iOS bugs all day every day.
We’re just asking you to use an alternative so you can have an issue-free phone and maybe rejoice in the future when Apple manages to actually get the AD software working.

You can start fresh with a better experience and still blame Apple. You don’t need to be miserable to do that. Join in with the rest of us in the happy camper club.
The only alternative is 3Utools, unless anybody here would like to send me a Mac solely dedicated to IPSW updates through finder. I would like the issues with Apple Devices to be disclosed, and (ideally) eradicated. Windows users deserve a better experience than the one that was foisted upon us in 2023, after 20 years of trouble free use of iTunes.
 
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I’ve had virtually every iphone and ipad that I’ve had virtually every iPhone and iPad that has been produced. Once OTA became possible, it took me a cycle or two to trust it, but since then I’ve never looked back. I can see no reason why anyone would subject themselves to a more tedious process unless a significant issue occurred that wasn’t being experienced by anyone else. Years ago, I seemingly had such an issue, and after getting the advice to go through that process, I did, only to find there was no change and a subsequent release fixed the issue I was having. That was at least 10 years ago, and neither I nor anyone I know has ever messed with that again. However, each user is free to do it their way, but simplicity and convenience are what most of us prefer.
I think the biggest issue here is the user that insists on using the crappy Windows software "Apple Devices" (that has over 1000 1 star ratings out of about 1500 total) that is known to be problematic and a very unreliable way to do updates. Windows and iTunes work fantastic, as does OTA and Finder with MacOS. But only one user here seems to be the only one that uses it and ALWAYS has issues with it but insists on using it because "it should work since Apple makes it available". That gets translated to "a particular iOS version is bad so don't update..." So far, I have not read any posts from anyone that has had issues installing 26.1 RC (or any of the other betas for that matter) other than Apple Devices dude so that should tell a different story as to what is at fault. (Hint: its not iOS). Point being OTA and IPSW both work fine using decent software and NOT using software with known issues. BTW -craig has also weighed in on this topic and has stated IPSW and OTA both are equivalent means of updating.
 
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The only alternative is 3Utools, unless anybody here would like to send me a Mac solely dedicated to IPSW updates through finder. I would like the issues with Apple Devices to be disclosed, and (ideally) eradicated. Windows users deserve a better experience than the one that was foisted upon us in 2023, after 20 years of trouble free use of iTunes.
Wrong. iTunes is still available for Windows and works flawlessly. OTA is still available and works fine as well. So you CHOOSE to use Apple Devices and that is your choice but stop blaming your issues with that software on a particular version iOS because that is 100% false information you are spreading to others here.
 
Is there a way to tell if the iPhone is utilizing WiFi 7? I’m a new owner of the 17 pro and this is something I’m wondering. I do have a WiFi 7 router. Just want to make sure I’m getting the highest speeds!
Generally in your wifi gateway controller there should be a way to view the client device and check which network, width and band it is connected to.
 
The only alternative is 3Utools, unless anybody here would like to send me a Mac solely dedicated to IPSW updates through finder. I would like the issues with Apple Devices to be disclosed, and (ideally) eradicated. Windows users deserve a better experience than the one that was foisted upon us in 2023, after 20 years of trouble free use of iTunes.
As both a Windows 11 and Mac user, I have to say that Windows is absolute garbage on many fronts right now, and it's hard to even expect features developed by MS themselves to work reliably, let alone something from a 3rd party.
 
Wrong. iTunes is still available for Windows and works flawlessly. OTA is still available and works fine as well. So you CHOOSE to use Apple Devices and that is your choice but stop blaming your issues with that software on a particular version iOS because that is 100% false information you are spreading to others here.
I’ve mentioned this before but there are issues going back to iTunes once you’ve “upgraded” to the new suite of Windows programs. So it’s not so simple, especially if you also use Apple TV / Apple Music. Am I supposed to nuke my entire Windows installation now too?
 
I’ve mentioned this before but there are issues going back to iTunes once you’ve “upgraded” to the new suite of Windows programs. So it’s not so simple, especially if you also use Apple TV / Apple Music. Am I supposed to nuke my entire Windows installation now too?
What issues? Not sure what you mean by "upgraded to new suite of Windows". Is that Windows 11 you are referring to? I have W11 and it runs iTunes just fine. Absolutely no need to nuke your Windows machine. Simply install iTunes like you would any other application. Ditch the MS store and Apple Devices and get it directly from Apple.


Scroll down past the MS store info past the PC picture and select the Windows link :

"Looking for other versions? macOS Windows"
 
What issues? Not sure what you mean by "upgraded to new suite of Windows". Is that Windows 11 you are referring to? I have W11 and it runs iTunes just fine. Absolutely no need to nuke your Windows machine. Simply install iTunes like you would any other application. Ditch the MS store and Apple Devices and get it directly from Apple.


Scroll down past the MS store info past the PC picture and select the Windows link :

"Looking for other versions? macOS Windows"
I said “new suite of windows programs” so you missed an important word there. That refers to the 3 new programs for windows that Apple replaced iTunes with at the same time.
 
Feedback Assistant app is broken on my end.
" try again later "
Yep, same here. Web works though: https://feedbackassistant.apple.com/

If you can … at least the web works. Haven’t locked me out yet.

Guess I’m filing feedback on feedback assistant. Kinda meta feeling.

I’ve got an issue new to this RC. Spotlight search only results in installed apps, none of the other functionality like dictionary search, metric/imperial conversions etc works. Restarting fixed it for an unknown amount of time before breaking again.

Another issue in prior 26.1 betas not fixed in RC is I have a Control Centre page dedicated to Home controls (lights, scenes) but after each OS update the buttons return to an unconfigured state. If I long-press and tap to configure them, they’re already set to what they should be but backing out again they’re still unconfigured. They only way to fix is to either delete and set up from scratch or change each button to another accessory/scene and then back to what I want.

The small number of Home controls on my favourites (heart) Control Centre page are unaffected by this.

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I had this on a few earlier betas (maybe 26.1b1-2), but it cleared up for me. I do have 1 device however that refuses to be fixed. File feedback, if you can.

Seeing the same thing.
This is silky smooth on the lock screen, so it has something to do with Home Screen icons.
 
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OTA is undoubtedly a simpler way to update. However, as it is a smaller (delta) file, compared to the IPSW, it does not overwrite the entire system, so the problematic files can be left intact. So while running betas, I frequently go IPSW route.

I get your point of course. But according to Apple, also in some interviews with Craig Federighi (and we are all free to believe this or not), the results should be absolutely identical. The reason being that a delta OTA upgrade performs a full file system checksum integrity check, and will only accept the upgrade as successful if the checksum matches the expected value. And if the checksum matches, the result has to be identical, byte by byte, to a full IPSW upgrade. It can't be "maybe a bit off".

Now of course this could all not be true, but why would they lie about it? If it's implemented correctly, I do believe that this is actually how it works.

But no harm done in going the IPSW route, absolutely! 😊
 
no particular problems, except for some bugs that Apple hasn't fixed yet and that I found in the discussion here and, on which, it's useless to go back, I'm almost resigned and, at least in my case, they're not serious! Updated both a 15 Pro and 11 Pro and iOS 26.1 RC is almost perfect, better than iOS 26.0.1 that I had on the 15 Pro and iOS 26.1 beta 4 that I had on the 11 Pro. Overall usable even on the main iPhone (15 Pro).
Graphically, I'm not crazy about the liquid glass in this current version, but I appreciate that you can slightly tweak the settings, although a toggle that could make the effect very personalized would have been more useful... but I imagine it's not the easiest thing to do at this point!
Currently, I just need a stable operating system that allows me good battery life, and I'm less interested in having graphic effects if these affect the battery life and the overall stability of the system.
I haven't read many reviews about reception (it's a phone, after all) and Wi-Fi and Bluetooth stability, but in my case they seem to have improved slightly since iOS 26.0.1. Unfortunately, I didn't check the previous version of the modem, so I don't know if it's been updated on the 15 Pro.
With the battery at 100% health and 41 cycles (not original) on 15 Pro I can get to the evening with average use (many work calls, at least twenty, some even long, email, some passages in safari, a lot of whatsapp, etc) and, it seems better than ios 26.0.1, but I only updated a little less than 3 days ago and I don't have conclusive data!
But I'm almost 60 years old, although I've been passionate about computers and MacOS for 40 years, with use of Android and iOS in some capacity as a developer... but I'm probably not as expert as the others participating in the discussion! So, I'm certainly not a reference!
 
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I get your point of course. But according to Apple, also in some interviews with Craig Federighi (and we are all free to believe this or not), the results should be absolutely identical. The reason being that a delta OTA upgrade performs a full file system checksum integrity check, and will only accept the upgrade as successful if the checksum matches the expected value. And if the checksum matches, the result has to be identical, byte by byte, to a full IPSW upgrade. It can't be "maybe a bit off".

Now of course this could all not be true, but why would they lie about it? If it's implemented correctly, I do believe that this is actually how it works.

But no harm done in going the IPSW route, absolutely! 😊

I personally use OTA when running public releases and IPSW - after finishing testing a beta or in a beta mid-cycle, if I run into issues.
 
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I’m not sure, but I feel like RC isn’t as polished as B4 for me? I’m seeing more small glitches and stutters. How can a RC be a step back from a beta?
Give it a good 4/5 days.Have it on charge overnight for indexing and reboot it a few times after update is what I do.
 
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