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I don't have my name in the OS. My financial instrument is disposable. I train the photos of me as several different people. My personal contacts are all nicknames. I don't install malware or garBage apps. This is not a toy. I have a personal phone, a work phone, and a sandbox used phone for shady apps populated with more nonsense. Don't look at github mitmadblock. Don't take privacy seriously lest you become a findable outlier. uh oh.

Also I don't carry an ATM card everywhere or use ss7 sms as banking "security". If a bank does not support physical tokens change banks. My trading account has a password and a token.

I don't install financial apps on a mobile: that's nuts.

Life doesn’t need to be this complicated…
No really… it doesn’t.
Really.
 
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what if you just dont do it?
what exactly apps / services / things are not working anymore?
i want to see people to post here what they were able to do on their iphones, but not anymore because they didnt pass age verification yet.

1.Cant acess adult websites and probley cant sent saucy pics to your love ones messge or facetime this annoy me as depending on the age group your in it being overprotective. i been able to come across adult pictures if you know the actor name on startpage or a searx instance.

2. articles were saying you couldnt download apps from the app store and make inapp purchases this dosnt seem to true as i try it.

3.Airdrop meant to be restricted as well though i wonder if that to users and not devices very easy to bypass using a nas or a usb-c stick

i had one site that i use for old movies that tell you about the actors there age and weather theres any seantive scence. like nudity voilence rape which is restricted aka no pics or videos unless it the cover for the film.

So it a slippery slope but it only gonna get worst what next on device scanning sorry but there is such a thing as a warrent

Also am more annoy there is no documention on this it really triggers me if there storing in apple passwords in the cloud or the secure enslave. if it the secure enslave what happen on a reinstall as i know it wipes fingerprints and apple pay cards and such.

No offence they could of give users a heads up and give people a few months to prepared.Also this means they wondnt need websites to verify people if apple had done this first and the uk goverment watied online safety bill wise.Also what stop people using p2p some still exist or setting up there own ftp sever. Meh🙁😡
 
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Be very careful about sharing ID's etc with other verification companies as you don't know how secure their data is.
Indeed, and now that age verification is becoming popular for all sorts of websites, you know that lots of unscrupulous verification companies will start up to milk the system anyway they can.
 
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Indeed, and now that age verification is becoming popular for all sorts of websites, you know that lots of unscrupulous verification companies will start up to milk the system anyway they can.
My main concern is people uploading their ID and hackers obtaining that, and the list of sites they have accessed and using it to blackmail them. I don't use, or upload my ID so not an issue for me, but I can see it becoming an issue.
 
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Well I'm not happy about this situation but you know what they say: dura lex sed lex. So I will think twice while voting next time.

I took my passport, took two snapshots of the same main page, first time didn't work but the second one did. Drama over. But bad tase in my mouth is still there.
 
Everything I spend, I spend on a credit card. It gets paid off at the end of every month, no charges.

Why?
One reason, the Consumer Credit Act in the UK means I am never spending my own money. Fraud, don't care, it's the bank's cash not mine, that is their problem.

Guarantees, everything I buy is guaranteed, if I am not satisfied I can get a refund. Why? The credit card company are responsible for the quality of the goods they buy on my behalf. If they sell me dodgy goods and then charge me for them, they are liable.

I don't know if you have these sort of protections en España, I would imagine that they are EU wide though..
I gave up with a classic credit card because one day someone was able to capture my card details and did some shopping in China. Got my money back but later I switched to PayPal Credit and so far it is bulletproof.
 
Being a glutton for punishment and reading all the horrific pearl clutching on here I thought, why not give it a go?

*shrug*

What exactly is the fuss all about?

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Congratulations. You had your iCloud account for over 18 years. That's an outlier!

The fuss will be for me...

1. The 81 year old who has an iCloud account for 8 years but no driving license because she's not allowed to drive or credit card because she has no job.

2. The 20 year old who has an iCloud account for 12 years but no driving license and no credit card because she has no job. I have ordered her a provisional license for £34 which may or may not fix this.

3. Myself (and my partner) who spent the last 30 years working in professional security critical positions and know all the political, technical, logistical and discriminatory threats that this forces upon the end users.

This is literally discriminatory and dangerous and needs to **** off in my professional opinion.

Which it will be doing by migrating to a platform which cannot be targeted.
 
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I have been running this on my old pixel 7a as a test bef but since all of this news hit I have actually started using it on my 9a and is now my daily driver.

Yeah it's pretty good so far. I actually had a 7a for a bit as well as a burner phone for travelling. Not terrible experience.
 
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I GENUINELY got told by Apple care today that I could just someone else’s ID or card and it would work. It did, kind of defeats the entire purpose no??

Anyone try this? Someone has see post 168 it works!
 
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where does provider responsibility end, and end-user responsibility begin?
mcdonalds made me fat, tv made me sloth, facebook made me crazy... not sure where the responsibility shift ends?

if they already have it then why are they asking for / requiring it? (updated or different tos?)

The thing is in some cases these companies know their products are bad for people, they deliberately bury information saying so, and sometimes go out of their way to make their products more addictive.

There are many examples. The tobacco industry. McDonalds installed playgrounds because they knew if they captured customers young they would have them for life. Facebook knows it's products have an adverse affect, takes almost no steps to mitigate dangers, deliberately makes them more addictive, and buries studies and voices showing it as such.
 
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Not understanding technology is a bad excuse. If you do not understand something, you should not let your children use it. That simple. My kids are not getting any smart devices on their own until they are 16. Until then, they use a shared computer in the living room for their homework and things.
And that makes you a good parent, but not everybody is.

Just to be clear, I'm not a fan of all this age verification stuff, there is no doubt in my mind that this is going to lead us somewhere in the future that we would think was unconscionable right now. It's just another slippery slope.

But... there are many times the state steps in to save its citizens from themselves with all sorts of laws about all sorts of things. We would consider it negligent if they didn't.
 
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I GENUINELY got told by Apple care today that I could just someone else’s ID or card and it would work. It did, kind of defeats the entire purpose no??

Anyone try this?

Ok I just tried this on my mother's phone. The age verification test passed with my driving license on her iCloud account.

What a pile of total and utter failure.
 
Ok I just tried this on my mother's phone. The age verification test passed with my driving license on her iCloud account.

What a pile of total and utter failure.
So basically anyone under 18 can just grab their parents dining licence and use that.
Talk about not being secure.
 
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So basically anyone under 18 can just grab their parents dining licence and use that.
Talk about not being secure.

Yup exactly that.

I’m wondering if it’s intentional. Aka letter or the law but not the spirit of the law. That’s such a bad security control that they know about it.
 
Whatever one thinks of the sneaky way this has been sprung on users, one thing is crystal clear: they lied about it being 'to comply with UK regulations'.

It’s a bit more complicated. The regulations don’t mandate device age verification but do mandate service age verification. When the device is a lemon without the services then it makes sense to do the account verification on the device.

Personally I’d rather more stuff was pushed to the device rather than proxied through the services as there would be no way to control that with legislation then.

End game: ecosystems suck and are control points. Don’t get in one.
 
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I don't have my name in the OS. My financial instrument is disposable. I train the photos of me as several different people. My personal contacts are all nicknames. I don't install malware or garBage apps. This is not a toy. I have a personal phone, a work phone, and a sandbox used phone for shady apps populated with more nonsense. Don't look at github mitmadblock. Don't take privacy seriously lest you become a findable outlier. uh oh.

Also I don't carry an ATM card everywhere or use ss7 sms as banking "security". If a bank does not support physical tokens change banks. My trading account has a password and a token.

I don't install financial apps on a mobile: that's nuts.
Tha'ts nuts..i think you're nuts 😛
 
I don't have my name in the OS. My financial instrument is disposable. I train the photos of me as several different people. My personal contacts are all nicknames. I don't install malware or garBage apps. This is not a toy. I have a personal phone, a work phone, and a sandbox used phone for shady apps populated with more nonsense. Don't look at github mitmadblock. Don't take privacy seriously lest you become a findable outlier. uh oh.

Also I don't carry an ATM card everywhere or use ss7 sms as banking "security". If a bank does not support physical tokens change banks. My trading account has a password and a token.

I don't install financial apps on a mobile: that's nuts.
But unless you walk around covered in tin foil from head to toe, you're still not safe.
 
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