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iOS 26.4 age verification
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Paul1964
macrumors 6502
Not really. MacRumors is a USA-centric site and the age verification issue is happening in the UK - so most of the discussion on it is mostly between UK members.
Yeah MacRumors could do more coverage but it's not indicative of anything.
slowpoke
macrumors regular
Oh word? https://www.macrumors.com/guide/china/
Even if it were true that macrumors is "USA-centric", it is still a big deal that this stuff has been built into ios and apple has now activated it for millions of users without actually being required to do so by any government - there's no regulatory requirement for them to do this in the UK!
+ Besides, it's not just the UK anymore; they just brought this stuff online in Singapore and South Korea too
I was approved based on age of account buts it’s came back and now only accepts credit card. Spoke to apple and they refused to help me and won’t help going forward so can’t approve my account.
Paul1964
macrumors 6502
AppleWes
macrumors 6502a
Many public companies security require fairly recent picture IMO not exactly Apple's fault.
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slowpoke
macrumors regular
Sorry but can you please clarify if you mean that you were initially auto verified based on account age only for it to demand ID later? My apple account is from 2005 so I should probably be ok when I do eventually update but now I'm nervous that they'll yank me around. I am in my mid 30s and I haven't lived in the UK in nearly 15 years and I don't have a credit card or a UK driving license, so if they make it hard for me I'm buggered.
Matthew.H
macrumors 6502a
I'm mid 30s, no driving license or credit card and I just used my UK passport. Took a couple of attempts but worked in the end.
If it becomes law and they won't comply you will not be able to find the OS on https://grapheneos.org
Just look for 5 minutes and you will see this is already starting in the USA. Discord was several months ago in the UK. Now Discord is pushing the same age verification in the US. Several bills are being put forth in various states now.
Adult sites were the canary in the coal mine. People applauded it because "kids should't look at it so it's fine". Then it was some social media platforms and messaging like Discord. This won't stop until the future I see where literally we have no anonymity online anymore. To where you can literally know my name and can look up my address just by my forum avatar here.
It's ALREADY happening in the states. We are just a few months behind the UK. Coverage needs to happen.
It is completely tone deaf for this to get no coverage at all here. EVERYTHING is going age verification. EVERYTHING down to even Microsoft Windows is being pushed to force age verification to some degree.
cjsuk
macrumors 68020
You really have no idea do you?
The pirate bay is still up … as will be their web site.
cjsuk
macrumors 68020
BSDnostalgia
macrumors 6502
Not exactly off-topic; if the discussion becomes smartphone operating systems that don't require age-verification, and GrapheneOS is the only alternative. But, I would be more interested if Graphene supported Samsung at least. They dropped Samsung and the only new phones they support are Google Pixel phones. Single-source to Google? Bah, humbug!
This whole OS age-verification thing is very strange. Obviously, the lawyers are moving in this direction in order to try to prevent lawsuits by parents because underage people are able to access bad content. But, the proponents clearly don't even understand what an operating system is, or, how many of them are out there, or, what operating systems do. I don't agree with it, but, "they" are trying to put operating systems in your refrigerator, and, put it on the internet. Will that operating system have age verification? Off-topic, but, strangely, not. What is Apple trying to accomplish with the UK feature rollout?
Then the direction will be placed on The Pirate Bay and if you are found to be running the OS you will suffer serious consequences. You can technically create a drug lab in your home, that doesn't make it legal.
Age verification is coming for literally everything. Apple is doing what is required, literally the entire planet is pushing for this.
iosuser21
macrumors member
Then the direction will be placed on The Pirate Bay and if you are found to be running the OS you will suffer serious consequences. You can technically create a drug lab in your home, that doesn't make it legal.
Doubt this you got more chance if just not being able to acess the websites if you dont had something built in to the hardware that verify you.Also there more then torrents peer2peer wise.
i can name quite a few operating systems that cant implant this just due to the way there design also old consoles with no support may not bother xbox 360 comes to mind.
Also could you explain how this would work on a headless servers?
Age verification is coming for literally everything. Apple is doing what is required, literally the entire planet is pushing for this.
--- not all japan said no to this and would rather educate the parents last i heard! Also teens in places like china and south korea manage to come across adult content korea uses id card china flat out bans all xxx but the will of the people find away around it.
Also why are we arguing about this when it really should be the way it was implanted we should be moaning about
1. sneakly push it in a update with no mention of it.
2.Apple could of wrote the documation on how they were doing this securely.Aka do the store a secure token in the enslave or is it store on your icloud account sorry but apple could do better on this regard this one is where the trust could be gained!
a perfect example read the apple platform security doc on advanced data protection icloud wise.
Doubt this you got more chance if just not being able to acess the websites if you dont had something built in to the hardware that verify you.Also there more then torrents peer2peer wise.
i can name quite a few operating systems that cant implant this just due to the way there design also old consoles with no support may not bother xbox 360 comes to mind.
Also could you explain how this would work on a headless servers?
Age verification is coming for literally everything. Apple is doing what is required, literally the entire planet is pushing for this.
--- not all japan said no to this and would rather educate the parents last i heard! Also teens in places like china and south korea manage to come across adult content korea uses id card china flat out bans all xxx but the will of the people find away around it.
Also why are we arguing about this when it really should be the way it was implanted we should be moaning about
1. sneakly push it in a update with no mention of it.
2.Apple could of wrote the documation on how they were doing this securely.Aka do the store a secure token in the enslave or is it store on your icloud account sorry but apple could do better on this regard this one is where the trust could be gained!
a perfect example read the apple platform security doc on advanced data protection icloud wise.
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I was forced to go to 26.4 because I grabbed an AirPods Max 2. Thankfully, my Apple Account was old enough.
Should I go through the age verification process?
I'm originally from the UK but I live in Hong Kong now. I keep it set to the UK because the app store has a lot more available that way, and local apps rarely geo-restrict.
What am I risking by going through the age verification process? Will Apple be collecting info for more spook agencies and passing that on by doing this? Does it tie metadata together a lot more? Apple already have my payment info, but perhaps this process is a legal process that passes on metadata to places that wouldn't otherwise have it, giving a much greater attack surface.
If I change region, what region is best to change to? I hear Estonia has some digital smarts. My other idea is to carry 2 phones, or an Apple watch to satisfy the man / AI war interests and a another, separate phone that isn't hostile to me. I'd then try to use as much as possible instead.
So far I haven't bothered because I don't need porn. But I'm worried about false positives. I recently got back from mainland China. If Alipay had been blocked from this we would have been completely screwed. Perhaps I shouldn't be worried about false positives because they're unlikely because this is actually about data collection.
Will a killbot drone fly through my window and blow me up if I say something bad?
I'm originally from the UK but I live in Hong Kong now. I keep it set to the UK because the app store has a lot more available that way, and local apps rarely geo-restrict.
What am I risking by going through the age verification process? Will Apple be collecting info for more spook agencies and passing that on by doing this? Does it tie metadata together a lot more? Apple already have my payment info, but perhaps this process is a legal process that passes on metadata to places that wouldn't otherwise have it, giving a much greater attack surface.
If I change region, what region is best to change to? I hear Estonia has some digital smarts. My other idea is to carry 2 phones, or an Apple watch to satisfy the man / AI war interests and a another, separate phone that isn't hostile to me. I'd then try to use as much as possible instead.
So far I haven't bothered because I don't need porn. But I'm worried about false positives. I recently got back from mainland China. If Alipay had been blocked from this we would have been completely screwed. Perhaps I shouldn't be worried about false positives because they're unlikely because this is actually about data collection.
Paul1964
macrumors 6502
Yes.
No. The UK government recently tried it on with Apple with an order to provide a back door. Apple told the UK government in no unccertain terms to F*** Right Off. Apple don't collect what they do not need and do not share anything with 3rd parties. You'll be fine.
iosuser21
macrumors member
Paul1964 : No. The UK government recently tried it on with Apple with an order to provide a back door. Apple told the UK government in no uncertain terms to F*** Right Off
No they didnt they cave when it come to advanced data protection uk wise if your talking about accessing uk icloud users data regard less of where they were living you can thank the usa for pressuring them i believe that where they back off.
When it come to encryption backdoors. They said no but they still manage to get access in the long run phone wise! though that one was usa and fbi based.
No they didnt they cave when it come to advanced data protection uk wise if your talking about accessing uk icloud users data regard less of where they were living you can thank the usa for pressuring them i believe that where they back off.
When it come to encryption backdoors. They said no but they still manage to get access in the long run phone wise! though that one was usa and fbi based.
Paul1964
macrumors 6502
Yes the USA government sided with Apple on this, as they should, when this was a clear case of overreach from the British side. But Apple did say no - firmly.
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