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iOS 27 Will Reportedly Be Like Mac OS X Snow Leopard

xnsys said:
Wouldn’t it be nice if we had an option to make it look as good as snow leopard did…
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I never liked those drab brownish windows that got introduced by Mac OS X Leopard and continued on to Snow Leopard. OS X Mavericks looked absolutely stunning though.
 
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qacjared said:
Back then, it wasn’t a yearly cycle so it was about two years as the most up to date OS. Also, Lion was a paid upgrade so it’s not like with Tahoe with an auto update that caught some off guard and it actually got iTunes and Safari updates for three years after Lion. Many people rode it out for a while. Unfortunately, Sequoia doesn’t have the same rope length.

That is to say, the glass of ice water in hell took a lot longer to melt back then.
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I’d actually appreciate going back to a two year release cadence - for all of Apple’s platforms.

Increasingly we get new features mid cycle anyway.

And it’ll allow Apple to refine what it has now.

Ditto with iOS. I’d argue that most of the low hanging fruit - ok, except ai - is implemented.

I’d contend that most users would more appreciate a rock solid os, than exciting new half baked features - which contribute to an unstable os. M

Especially since with most new features, I’d also contend that most regular people don’t even know are there.
 
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it won't be anything like snow leopoard, no "snow tahoe" and such.
it will be more like:

macos "that derelict greasy kebab shop" .. and you all know it.

it's gonna be a long hell for mac users.
apple is disconnected with reality, it lost the talented devs and designers, the visionaries, good aesthetics taste, and general common sense.

all my apple gear has just been gathering dust for over two years now. ( iphone 12 mini, my ipad m1 and my macbookpro m2 pro) . i just can't bring myself to use them. each time i try, i'm disgusted by the way it looks and all the restrictions everywhere, all the time. what a waste. tim cook is the worst thing that happened to apple. under steve jobs it wasn't perfect, but at least apple had good tastes, it had good ideas. now apple is litteraly cook'ed 😉

no matter how good the hardware is, (because m-series cpu is quite good), the software stack has become clown show from hell. no way i'd use that until things change and improve dramatically.

linux is as much a secure OS as macos, yet, linux is nowehere near as restrictive as macos .
"security" is often used as an excuse for all the limitations and restrictions on mac, in reality macos is just a locked down system with many missing features. you can't do anything, not even choose your own font to display the system. it became so scandalous. limitations branded as features. lack of capabilities sold as "creative environment for artists". even the OS most basic features aren't finished properly : windows switching and fullscreen support are pretty bad on mac. as example, users have no control on the windows stack, which one gets displayed on front on top of others .. or again, send a front window to the back of the stack. windows management on macos is primitive, archaic, to say the least. think about it people.. macos UI by category is what is called as a "stacking windows manager" yet we have very little control on windows management. that's macos in a nutshell: limitations, unfinished features, restrictions, locked down, primitive, unflexible rigid OS, then the hype marketing machine sells it as creative, for artists, etc.. it's bullsh1t.

that OS is outdated, lacks many features, doesn't support many common standards, and now it also look more and more ugly since big-sur.

now, or even 'yesterday' would be a good time for apple dev team to start smelling coffee and get a pulse.
and, please someone fire tim cokk. the spirit of steve jobs must come out of his grave and start collecting heads. fast, gruesomely so.

come on .. macos, what a joke..
 
bluecoast said:
I’d actually appreciate going back to a two year release cadence - for all of Apple’s platforms.

And it’ll allow Apple to refine what it has now.
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It simply doesn’t work that way. Back when Mac OS X was on a multi-year release cycle the initial releases where just as buggy and problematic. If not even more so.

With Mac OS X Tiger Apple made a whole thing about the v10.4.3 release where it was finally deemed ‘ready’ for daily usage. They even put a big green sticker on the retail packaging letting people know the Install DVD contained said version.

Mac OS X Leopard got pushed back a year or so and was a wreck at its releae too.

Unless you absolutely need a new Mac at some point there’s very little preventing you from upgrading at your own leisure.
 
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Man how good was Snow Leopard - what a refinement update with some killer features. I thought Tiger to Leopard was a great update, then came the polish. Blimey I'm getting old...
 
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Apple is no longer an innovative company. One for all: Mac OS runs on A18, why not on A19Pro (imagine a MacOS running on external display from a iPhone 17 pro max when connected). Bah.
 
MacRumors said:


In his Power On newsletter today, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman reiterated that iOS 27 will be similar to 2009's Mac OS X Snow Leopard, in the sense that one of Apple's biggest priorities is bug fixes for improved performance and stability.

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At WWDC 2008, Apple showed a presentation that said Mac OS X Snow Leopard had "0 new features," as it opted to focus on performance and stability improvements. Technically, the update did include some smaller new features, but Apple was overwhelmingly focused on bug fixes and under-the-hood changes on the Mac.

"We've built on the success of Leopard and created an even better experience for our users from installation to shutdown," said Apple's former software engineering chief Bertrand Serlet. "Apple engineers have made hundreds of improvements so with Snow Leopard your system is going to feel faster, more responsive and even more reliable than before."

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iOS 27 will still get some new features too, including a more personalized version of Siri. The update should be announced in June and released in September.

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Article Link: iOS 27 Will Reportedly Be Like Mac OS X Snow Leopard
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It’unclear to me why we really need this now. Overall performance and stability, in my case with old and new devices it’s really good. iPad 10-iPhone 13 and 16 really good with beta 26.4. Only thing is that all AI stuff they promise still unavailable, but this is different because it’s something that is not here year so can’t complain jajaja
 
TheIntruder said:
I'm not one of those irrational Tim Cook detractors, nor do I worship at Jobs' altar, but instead of the idealistic word salad cultural missives he produces about Apple's 50th and other milestones, Cook should direct banners with those Jobs' words to be hung in the halls of the Spaceship, and across the rainbow stage in the middle of it.

To illustrate with an example from tvOS 26:
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In what universe is this remotely acceptable, never mind a desirable UX?

The warning signs prior to 26 being released were abundant, and they proved to be valid.

LG is fundamentally flawed as a UI, and heaping preference upon preference to try to fix its shortcomings for users who aren't blind, or at least those trying to comprehend what is in their screens, does no favors for the programming either.

Processor cycles are being consumed to draw these elements, and algorithms used to accommodate the superfluous effects. And when they fail, like with the some wallpaper colors being rendered in black, it's more than fair to question the fundamental choices that were made.

Doubling down on stupid is stupid.
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I have 2 Apple TVs running 26 and neither looks anything like that. It looks like you changed the default settings. Do you keep it like that all the time, or did you change the settings just to make a point? If you keep it like that, why not use the default settings, which results in UI elements that are not hard to read?
 

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if this is even remotely true and they are going to focus on long standing bugs and issues with the OS, it’s really sad they will be leaving intel macs on a crap 26 release in perpetuity.
 
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My dream has come true.
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Watched again the Snow leopard introduction by Bertrand Serlet. Oh man, these people were quite smart at that time. They were quite a lot of features or refinements as they called them. But they were really great and instantly useful for every user. Vast majority of things presented are still key part of the core OS nowadays. I think Serlet was a big loss for Apple and for MacOS, everything started to get worse when Craig took over with macOS Lion (Craig was also in the introduction but 10.6 was pretty much set when he arrived, in fact, I bet that 10.6.6 with mac app store was some Craig influenced decision - maybe also reason for Serlet to resign? - speculation mode here).
 
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At this point Liquid Glass needs some tinkering to make it less resource intensive and we will be all the better for it. The morphic menu popouts need to be dialled back a bit so they take less time to actually appear and the homescreen needs some love given even an iPhone 17 Pro has to load-in the icons on the fly. When your performance is worst than Android on bespoke hardware, you need to make some changes.
 
After viewing page 9 of this thread, I'm more convinced than ever that opinions that can be selected from this forum represent the most extreme end of the left side of a bell curve, the 2.5% of enthusiasts and tinkerers.

There's plenty about Apple that deserves criticism, although I believe many of them represent the challenges that humanity struggles with in this moment.

I remain amazed that folk get angry at Cook for not being Jobs. Cook himself described Jobs as a "once in a thousand years sort of leader."

One more reminder: Jobs hired Cook. Jobs appointed Cook as CEO.
 
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TMRJIJ said:
Your memory is incorrect. It dropped PPC Macs swiftly and arrived with OpenGL issues on MacBooks withx950/X3100 integrated GPUs.

I was 13 years old when this happened

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I don't remember that, but every new OS has a new feature I suppose
 
Where macOS is concerned, if it's to become more like Mac OS X Snow Leopard let's hope that Guest accounts won't delete your entire user folder upon initial release 😉
 
n-evo said:
It simply doesn’t work that way. Back when Mac OS X was on a multi-year release cycle the initial releases where just as buggy and problematic. If not even more so.

With Mac OS X Tiger Apple made a whole thing about the v10.4.3 release where it was finally deemed ‘ready’ for daily usage. They even put a big green sticker on the retail packaging letting people know the Install DVD contained said version.

Mac OS X Leopard got pushed back a year or so and was a wreck at its releae too.

Unless you absolutely need a new Mac at some point there’s very little preventing you from upgrading at your own leisure.
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Yes I remember Apple in the 00s and it wasn’t all roses.

They struggled with working on both PhoneOs (as iOS was then called I think) and OS X.

I remember people saying that Apple couldn’t walk and chew gum at the same time.

Even with more software engineering resources, Apple is clearly struggling with this yearly race to pile on more features for an annual release.

Would it really be so bad if at WWDC 26 Apple announced the Gemini integration into all of its platforms and said that because this is a profound change to the Mac that all of the ‘27’ generation of os will be around for 2 years so they can get things right?

Of course the new yearly naming scheme is a big clue that they absolutely will not do this.

The only hope then, is that the 28 generation will have minimal changes (apart from anything hardware and Apple Intelligence + Gemini) so that Apple can devote a lot of its team to relentlessly hunt down bugs, technical debt & refactor and optimise.
 
TJFDenver said:
So, intel Mac’s get the iShaft?
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I believe support is ending for the Intel Macs. It's been 5 years and that's the typical cycle when there's a processor change if memory serves.

I would pay good money for an iOS and MacOS release that focused on just improving the software without adding any features. But I don't think the talent and the mindset exists at Apple anymore.

They need to get this right. Just like with Siri, these failures pop up over and over they start to pile up. Then one day you wake up and you're the but of the joke and it's all down hill from there.

I say call it MacOS 27 "Philadelphia". lol
 
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