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This:

"Early reports indicate no change in the reception loss experienced by some users. "

Should read:

"Early reports indicate no change in the reception loss experienced by MOST users."

Lets not sugar coat it.
 
Funny enough, almost everyone had a case for their 3G/3GS but people on these boards act like it is a bad thing to buy a case. Had everyone bought a case, I doubt this would even be a story because it would have most likely masked the issue with the small number of defective units.

Almost everyone? Where are you getting that from?

I've never put a case on my iPhone 3G/3GS/4 and I shouldn't be forced to shell out more money for one. If Apple gave me one for free I'd probably use it when I wanted to make phone calls, but the day I pay them $29 to band-aid their defect is the day I stop expecting purchases to work as advertised on the most basic level.

I think the iPhone 4 is a great looking/feeling phone and a case/bumper ruins that for me. This hit the mainstream media because it's such an easily reproducible scenario. Step 1: Hold your phone. Step 2: Watch the bars drop.

Apple isn't owning up to this at all, and Steve Jobs just keeps blaming the users.

MacRumors posted a picture of Steve holding the iPhone in exactly the same way he told us not to... I wonder why he had connection issues during the demo... hmm...

Unacceptable responses from Apple:
- Hold it differently.
- Buy a bumper for the low price of $29!
- There is no reception issue.

Acceptable responses from Apple:
- We're mailing out self-repair kits.
- Bring it into the Apple store and we'll apply the hardware fix.
- Free bumpers for everyone!
- We're sorry, we did not hold up to our normally high standards.
- Accept this iTunes gift card for buying a faulty product.
 
how the heck do they think this is a fix....

THIS IS NOT A FIX ITS HARDWARE RELATED !!!! U IDIOTS !

HOW IS SOFTWARE GOING TO FIX A HARDWARE PROBLEM...ITS THE ANTENNA !

ADMIT IT APPLE !!!!
 
JB coming soon..
that's all i see

Just don't update to 4.1! The iPhone Dev Team may not release the iPhone 4 iOS4 jailbreak until Apple officially released the 4.1 update, which may be weeks away based on Apples' statement and the time process usually required for beta tests.
 
I wonder if their just masking the issue with a GUI update?

Interested to see if the problem continues

What difference does it really make how they do it as long as it works right? Too many people are too wrapped up in what Apple is actually doing to fix the problem rather than just waiting to see if it all works out in the end. It really doesn't matter what they do as long as you can now use the phone without issues of hand positioning.
 
Making the bars taller is being completely honest and good? Seems somewhat shady if you ask me. Which you didn't. But come on, it doesn't seem completely honest either.

Now when we have one little stubby bar, it will at least look like there is signal, even though the connection is likely in the crapper.

I don't care about the height. (Is it different? I can't even tell.)

I'm talking about the real change they're making where it will display a different number of bars...you know, the same system that other AT&T phones use.

I'm sick of my phone showing me 5 bars when it should be showing me 2 or 3. THAT's the lie.
 
how the heck do they think this is a fix....

THIS IS NOT A FIX ITS HARDWARE RELATED !!!! U IDIOTS !

HOW IS SOFTWARE GOING TO FIX A HARDWARE PROBLEM...ITS THE ANTENNA !

ADMIT IT APPLE !!!!

Who said this was even a fix, maybe there just opening up a new beta build for something else. Maybe for iPad.
 
Anyone running 4.1 notice if the proximity sensor is working better than before?

The proximity sensor is my biggest problem with iPhone 4.

Also, I find it comical that Apple felt the need to make the smaller bars "taller". They might as well just come out and admit that all they've done is made it even easier for those over 50 to see that they're about to drop a call.
 
HELLO PEOPLE!!!

The big news here is the MODEM UPDATE!!! The bars are just aesthetic, but the modem update could make a REAL difference in terms of reception. It will be interesting to see if testing confirms an improvement or not.
 
Apple never ONCE said that this software update was a "fix" for the antenna issue. It was people on here to who made the assumption based on the timing of the announcement that there was an "issue" with the formula the iPhone had been using to calculate signal strength. It was never addressed as a fix for the physical touching of the device and the signal dropping.

People have set themselves up for a MASSIVE amount of disappointment that will subject the users of this forum to another month of moaning and "Apple are liars"! nonsense.

The "issue" was mentioned in the open letter in context to Apple's software glitch. It's called guilt by association. We mentioned it so we are implying we have a solution.... I'll stop now.
 
how the heck do they think this is a fix....

THIS IS NOT A FIX ITS HARDWARE RELATED !!!! U IDIOTS !

HOW IS SOFTWARE GOING TO FIX A HARDWARE PROBLEM...ITS THE ANTENNA !

ADMIT IT APPLE !!!!

*Sigh*

Go and find the release from Apple regarding the signal meter update. They never once mentioned that the update would fix the antenna issue, they've not even admitted that their is an antenna issue, so why would they say the software update fixes it?

People read the release about the issue with the way the iPhone, apparently, calculates the signal strength and put 2 + 2 together and came up with 5. They then got into a lather of excitement and built this software update up to be something it was never going to be and never was.

Your post is EXACTLY the type of over the top ranting that I expect to fill these forums in the coming month when 4.1 goes official via iTunes and those who expected miracles from an update Apple never once said was a fix for the antenna issue, go berserk and begin venting.
 
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ZipZap said:
This:

"Early reports indicate no change in the reception loss experienced by some users. "

Should read:

"Early reports indicate no change in the reception loss experienced by MOST users."

Lets not sugar coat it.

No it shouldn't. There's no way 2m people have this issue. The fact that macrumors has less than 1000 posts on an issue like this actually makes me think very few people have this issue. I don't have the issue. No one I know does. I work in places with very low coverage, yet no matter how hard I Death Grip the phone, no signal loss whatsoever.
 
What's going on with the proximity sensor? I use bluetooth 24/7, in my Infiniti (the 2010 models FINALLY support full contacts and address book syncing) and my stereo bluetooth headset (for those interested Sony makes a great A2DP headset, and I've tried Motorola JayBird models). I haven't used the phone much to make use of the sensor.

If this is another issue, than Apple truly needs to recall these handsets. They have BILLIONS, I'm certain a recall would be a tear in a salty sea for them and it would demonstrate their ability to admit a product fault.

have a look on the Apple forums, they closed one thread as It had too many posts, another is now open, many many people are having problems with the proximity sensor turning the display back on, causing the phone to "face dial"
 
The "issue" was mentioned in the open letter in context to Apple's software glitch. It's called guilt by association. We mentioned it so we are implying we have a solution.... I'll stop now.

Still, basic common sense should tell these people that a software fix that changes how the signal bars are displayed is not going to solve an issue that occurs when you physically touch part of the device.

Well, that and the fact Apple never once mentioned that this update would fix the antenna issue. They mentioned calculations of signal strength and that the signal was actually appearing stronger than it was, and yet still people took that an update that could essentially make your signal appear weaker, was a fix for the antenna issue.

You couldn't make it up.
 
HELLO PEOPLE!!!

The big news here is the MODEM UPDATE!!! The bars are just aesthetic, but the modem update could make a REAL difference in terms of reception. It will be interesting to see if testing confirms an improvement or not.

Yes, I am interested in seeing the results of this being tested as well.

The bar thing is nice, but has nothing to do with the main problem. This does and I eagerly await people's results.
 
Apple's display of bars can take a flying leap. I want my -dBm back and field test mode back.
You could restore the phone from a backup of a jailbroken phone that had the SBSettings "Signal strength in -dBm" option on. Then you could just tap the bars for them to change to -dBm.
 
No, because despite the loud complaining a small but vocal minority, most people are happy with their iPhone 4.

There are always some dud units that need to be replaced. Funny enough, almost everyone had a case for their 3G/3GS but people on these boards act like it is a bad thing to buy a case. Had everyone bought a case, I doubt this would even be a story because it would have most likely masked the issue with the small number of defective units.

@japanime: It's probably the same formula that other handset makers have been using for years. People on AT&T with iPhones had been complaining of dropped calls when they they appeared to have service. It is possible that they were about to drop but the phone was displaying too high of a value.

Seriously. Some people just make me laugh, I've been called a fanboy at times but you just take the biscuit.

My wife laughed when i showed her that holding my iPhone in my hand results in the "No internet connection" popup. Releasing it and voila, the page loads.

"My Dext doesnt do that" She said.
 
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No it shouldn't. There's no way 2m people have this issue. The fact that macrumors has less than 1000 posts on an issue like this actually makes me think very few people have this issue. I don't have the issue. No one I know does. I work in places with very low coverage, yet no matter how hard I Death Grip the phone, no signal loss whatsoever.

2 million people? I don't think so. The polls and posts online are just drekitude because they are mired with people who hate apple and android fanboys. So take those with a grain of salt.
 
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No it shouldn't. There's no way 2m people have this issue. The fact that macrumors has less than 1000 posts on an issue like this actually makes me think very few people have this issue. I don't have the issue. No one I know does. I work in places with very low coverage, yet no matter how hard I Death Grip the phone, no signal loss whatsoever.

Lucky you. Everyone I know has the problem. This aint science fiction dude
 
I bet the original iPhone showed higher reception than normal because Apple lied to us for 3 years now, not due to a bug. I think that the iPhone reception wasn't as good as the competing Blackberry's, so they tweaked the algorithm to show more bars. This would explain why I had horrible audio quality even with full 5 bars displayed...
 
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