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iOS 4.2 to Be Released Today, 'Find My iPhone' Now Free
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So am i all worked great till ios 4.2.1 done full restore then Both can not be restored iPad has a error code 40 from update and iPhone 1013. Can't kick them out of it as well. Bricked as in useless.
The problem is neither iPhone 4 nor iPhone 3GS owners had expectations of this when they bought their devices prior to today. Some of them get it based on some arbitrary hardware line that never was applied for the paid for service (which was available to all).
I do get that that is the Apple way, moreso with iOS it seems.
Oh, I wasn't expecting free Find My iPhone at all. It's just all the policies around iOS have me already questionning my choice of the platform for my mobile needs, this is just one more straw. If this is what I can expect of Apple, then they can keep their iOS offerings. At least for now their Mac policies have been much more sane.
In the end, this is just something else on the pile of growing frustrations I have with Apple's handling of iOS. With all the competitors on the market, it's growing less and less easy to stick it out and hope it gets better.
You also get less storage, a lower res screen, less memory, etc.. you don't "save" 100$.
there is not one sentence in this rant, save the last one, that makes any sense whatsoever.
He sounds suspicious. Tens of thousands of developers and others have installed the 4.2.1 Gold Masters with no issues.
My guess is that he downloaded corrupted files.
Tried that too does not work getting both replaced by apple they could not fix them as well.
hahaha! $teve Job$ will never make it free, i rejoined and paid 2 weeks ago, whilst i do not mind paying for it i hope MM will become less expensive and more expansive like other free offerings such as dropbox
back to topic- i hope the iPad boyz/girlz will have fun multitasking!
Dropboz only offers 2GB, MM does up to 20GB. It's also got website hosting, Mail, Calendar and Contacts. And a photo uploading feature. Dropbox is also very finicky and I was very frustrated when using it although it was pretty awesome for being free.
The problem is neither iPhone 4 nor iPhone 3GS owners had expectations of this when they bought their devices prior to today. Some of them get it based on some arbitrary hardware line that never was applied for the paid for service (which was available to all).
I do get that that is the Apple way, moreso with iOS it seems.
Oh, I wasn't expecting free Find My iPhone at all. It's just all the policies around iOS have me already questionning my choice of the platform for my mobile needs, this is just one more straw. If this is what I can expect of Apple, then they can keep their iOS offerings. At least for now their Mac policies have been much more sane.
In the end, this is just something else on the pile of growing frustrations I have with Apple's handling of iOS. With all the competitors on the market, it's growing less and less easy to stick it out and hope it gets better.
You also get less storage, a lower res screen, less memory, etc.. you don't "save" 100$.
Then why bring up the price argument anyway? Android has more problems than you not getting a free feature. It's got security holes all over the place, very few quality apps, horrible developer platform, and much more. I'm a developer for both platforms and have used both in my life for long periods of time. iOS is definitely easier, more secure and better.
Yes, but MM consolidates them. Also, Googles services are very buggy, laggy and just frustrating. For PC users, I understand that Windows itself is much worse so Googles faults can be seen as improvements. I use both Windows, Mac, Android and iOS everyday for work. I'm no biased to one platform.
Dropbox only offers 2GB for free. For some people, it may be enough. But to match MM, which offers up to 20GB, you need to pay extra. So not the same.
Gmail is horribly implemented and is very messy. If I send emails from iPhone or iPad, it will group them into different sent mail boxes. Same with from my computer. Frustrating when doing business and need to access a certan email sent from my computer on my iPhone.
Their calendar is both ugly and hard to use. For free, it's very good. But I'd rather pay a bit for something better. Same with contacts and everything else they offer. For free, it's very good. But MM is much better and rightfully so since it's paid.
You also get less storage, a lower res screen, less memory, etc.. you don't "save" 100$.
Then buy the iP4, get FMiP for "free", and you have a better phone (allegedly). FMiP is an upgrade free to people who bought the latest hardware. Apple has NO OBLIGATION to give stuff out for free. They could have not even offered it to iP4 owners, then what?
People female dog to female dog. Especially on forums. Everybody is a flippin' expert. If you want a service, usually you pay for that service. Unless of course you live in some parallel universe where you get everything for free.
ugh.
Never has something so insignificant, been so whined about, so passionately, for so long. Give it a rest already KnightWRX, buy the damn MM service if you need/want the FMi service, or buy an iPhone 4. As illogical, unfair, or whatever it is that makes that you feel so strongly that you should get a free something-or-other that someone else is getting...Apple doesn't answer to you for their decisions, and neither do you answer to them for yours. If you don't like their decisions, don't buy their products. But "unsupported" is a stretch, the feature is still there on the 3GS. Your apparent sense of entitlement is a bit nauseating, frankly. "It should be free for all hardware capable," etc etc.
Says who? You? There is a difference between certain people getting something they didn't previously have, and others having something taken away from them! You have lost nothing you previously had, iPhone 4 customers are simply getting something they didn't have before. Quit being so Canadian (and I am one also) and complaining about it, and just get the device (and free feature) you want the old-fashioned way. By working for it. Or live without it. It ain't the cure for cancer.
I myself have had to accept with my 3G that there are certain things I won't be able to do because of the generation of the hardware. Hence I am getting an iPhone 4 when I head back to Canada (live overseas) at Christmas. *shrug* I DO feel that Apple fumbled things in a very un-Apple way with the iOS 4.0 and the 3G, as there is a very big difference between not offering feature parity, and actually dramatically DEGRADING a perfectly-working device, and then not offering a way to restore it! But that is another subject, another day. Let's just say I won't be upgrading to 4.2 for awhile on my iPad.
Speaking of which, dumb question time. Not knowing the technicalities of how FMI works, does it work solely for cellular devices? Or can a Wi-Fi only iPad be located?
Never has something so insignificant, been so whined about, so passionately, for so long. Give it a rest already KnightWRX, buy the damn MM service if you need/want the FMi service, or buy an iPhone 4. As illogical, unfair, or whatever it is that makes that you feel so strongly that you should get a free something-or-other that someone else is getting...Apple doesn't answer to you for their decisions, and neither do you answer to them for yours. If you don't like their decisions, don't buy their products. But "unsupported" is a stretch, the feature is still there on the 3GS. Your apparent sense of entitlement is a bit nauseating, frankly. "It should be free for all hardware capable," etc etc.
Says who? You? There is a difference between certain people getting something they didn't previously have, and others having something taken away from them! You have lost nothing you previously had, iPhone 4 customers are simply getting something they didn't have before. Quit being so Canadian (and I am one also) and complaining about it, and just get the device (and free feature) you want the old-fashioned way. By working for it. Or live without it. It ain't the cure for cancer.
I myself have had to accept with my 3G that there are certain things I won't be able to do because of the generation of the hardware. Hence I am getting an iPhone 4 when I head back to Canada (live overseas) at Christmas. *shrug* I DO feel that Apple fumbled things in a very un-Apple way with the iOS 4.0 and the 3G, as there is a very big difference between not offering feature parity, and actually dramatically DEGRADING a perfectly-working device, and then not offering a way to restore it! But that is another subject, another day. Let's just say I won't be upgrading to 4.2 for awhile on my iPad.
Speaking of which, dumb question time. Not knowing the technicalities of how FMI works, does it work solely for cellular devices? Or can a Wi-Fi only iPad be located?
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"Free" MM Registration
For what it's worth...
I tried logging into to a "free" MM account following the instructions previously posted from my iPad (running iOS 4.2.1 GM). My Apple ID/password brought up a new MM terms/agreement screen, which crashed when I accepted it. So I tried from my iPhone 3GS (also running iOS 4.2.1 GM), and received a "device not supported" message. So I tried again from my iPad, and this time it worked. I went back to my 3GS, and it worked as well... I now have "free" FMi set up on my iPad and iPhone 3GS.
I can't see how well it works right now - me.com is down and the app store app requires an update that's not there yet, but it appears that you need to have a "current gen" device to get the "free" MM account, which enables older devices to get the same treatement.
Again, FWIW.
-Craig
For what it's worth...
I tried logging into to a "free" MM account following the instructions previously posted from my iPad (running iOS 4.2.1 GM). My Apple ID/password brought up a new MM terms/agreement screen, which crashed when I accepted it. So I tried from my iPhone 3GS (also running iOS 4.2.1 GM), and received a "device not supported" message. So I tried again from my iPad, and this time it worked. I went back to my 3GS, and it worked as well... I now have "free" FMi set up on my iPad and iPhone 3GS.
I can't see how well it works right now - me.com is down and the app store app requires an update that's not there yet, but it appears that you need to have a "current gen" device to get the "free" MM account, which enables older devices to get the same treatement.
Again, FWIW.
-Craig
Yes I agree. But iPhone 3GS owners can still use their phones without problems. They just don't get free stuff like iPhone 4 owners. Nothing was taken away, nothing was given. They did get multitasking, background wallpapers, etc from the 4.0 software.
MM is expensive if you want that one feature. But the App Store is filled with alternatives that do the same thing for much less. It's not like MM is the only service that provides this function, FMi.
You mean like the PDF vulnerability that allowed jailbreaking the phone through a single click on a website called jailbreakme.com ? Oh wait that wasn't Android...
Yeah, of course with close to 200,000 apps, you're bound to get a bunch of ad supported flashlight apps... oh wait, again, that isn't Android...
Subjective and not a sentiment shared I'm sorry. Seeing your pro-Apple bias makes me think that somehow your credibility in comparing both platforms is shot anyhow.
Why even bring up Android anyhow ? When has this discussion become about Android ?
Also alot of those phones being bought unlocked are being sold overseas. There is a big problem with this in the UK. Massive queues outside the apple stores on days they have them in stock being bought by folks who are selling them to india for double the price.
I agree. My point is that if the 3GS was the top end phone and was more expensive back in say april. It wasn't sold as the low end model because it wasn't. Prices were around the same as IP4 prices are now. Not everyone follows macrumors. There are lots of users out there who have no idea when Apple is due to update their phones.
Possible backgrounds for ipod Touch 2g!!
Hey i just looked at the UK apple site where it says what devices this update is compatible with:
http://www.apple.com/uk/ios/
The picture for the 2nd gen iPod Touch clearly shows it with a background!!
What do you think?
Barny
Hey i just looked at the UK apple site where it says what devices this update is compatible with:
http://www.apple.com/uk/ios/
The picture for the 2nd gen iPod Touch clearly shows it with a background!!
What do you think?
Barny
iPhones can be tracked with more accuracy due to the GPS chip inside. 3G iPads have the GPS chip as well. WiFi iPod touches and iPads are very accurate, only off by a few feet compared to my iPhone 4. My WiFi iPad that is.