Apple rendered a phone basically inoperable; with no way to go back to previous firmware.
Apple should do things properly.
How can you go back easily? Explain that to my mum, please.
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iOS 4.2 to Bring More Performance Improvements to iPhone 3G?
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Apple rendered a phone basically inoperable; with no way to go back to previous firmware.
Apple should do things properly.
How can you go back easily? Explain that to my mum, please.
How do you do that? I'd love to go back to the 3.x software on my 3G phone. When you plug the phone into a computer with iTunes, it tells you that a software update is available for your phone and that you SHOULD update! The update is pitched as having fixes for your model. You don't find out it is going to brick your phone until AFTER it updates, and then Apple does not let you go back. That is my main complaint. I understand old hardware won't run the latest and greatest software, so tell me it won't run and let me stay with the old version. Instead, the update is specifically pushed to my model phone and there is no going back. I don't like being forced to upgrade hardware by being told I should update my phone's software to something that renders it virtually unusable.
I've actually held off upgrading to an iPhone 4 because I'm upset with the way Apple's software update screwed up something that was otherwise working fine and I don't trust that it won't happen in the future. Those of you with your iPhone 4's are all high and mighty now, but wait until iPhone 6 comes out and the software update bricks your phone. You won't be happy then......
Strangely enough my iPhone 3G never got that slow from iOS 4. A little slower, maybe, but not enough to be sure Im even noticing. (Whereas iOS 2 to 3, way back when, had been a BIG slowdown that remains to this day.) What I did notice with iOS 4.0 was daily crashing! My 3G is now just a spare iPod that I seldom use, but I look forward to trying 4.2 and seeing it crash-free (fingers crossed). I didnt bother with 4.1 on it.
I agree that 
should provide an easy method to roll back to a previous iOS version. For someone who said users should have never upgraded to iOS 4.x, how were they to know it would have been so bad? said it was compatible and would run on a 3G so that's why they upgraded.
But still, suing because iOS 4.x doesn't run well on a 3G is silly to me. We're now two hardware versions ahead of the 3G and folks should be more cognizant of how technology and business models work.
What will be next? Suing a few years from now when iOS 6.x is out and it doesn't run well on an iPhone "classic?" (1st gen).
should provide an easy method to roll back to a previous iOS version. For someone who said users should have never upgraded to iOS 4.x, how were they to know it would have been so bad? said it was compatible and would run on a 3G so that's why they upgraded.But still, suing
because iOS 4.x doesn't run well on a 3G is silly to me. We're now two hardware versions ahead of the 3G and folks should be more cognizant of how technology and business models work. What will be next? Suing
a few years from now when iOS 6.x is out and it doesn't run well on an iPhone "classic?" (1st gen).
Exactly. Also, it seems that the bigger Apple becomes, the more "evil" it is perceived (like all big companies are assumed to be evil). I really think it was a mistake, but they should have done more testing.
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The woman should learn to think and learn how the tech industry works = more features, more processing and more memory needed.
Next model hardware catches up, software goes ahead or viceversa and the race begins anew
Also, when new software especially system software is released, how about waiting a little before the votes are in?
Thank you to the early adopters/pioneers who rush to have the latest.
Waiting and reading up what doesn't work would have shown that it's best to stay with 3.x
Class action suits are a joke,. The lawyers get the money and you get a coupon for $ 15 or so off RETAIL after filling out 100 forms and looking for receipts from 10 years back.
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Congrats. Do you want a cookie?
On topic, this is welcome. They should have not released it for the 3G, but they had to since the 3G was for sale until the day the 4 was released. It was really QA that failed here.
Carlanga said:I put this same 'news' on the iPhone section almost 2 hours earlier...
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1045336/
Congrats. Do you want a cookie?
On topic, this is welcome. They should have not released it for the 3G, but they had to since the 3G was for sale until the day the 4 was released. It was really QA that failed here.
I hope it does improve performance and battery life.
My iPod Touch was awesome until the last update, and now the battery drains completely overnight and the performance is horrible. Due to this, recently I was only using it as an alarm clock. But ironically the alarm broke last week as we switched to winter time so even that doesn't work...
My iPod Touch was awesome until the last update, and now the battery drains completely overnight and the performance is horrible. Due to this, recently I was only using it as an alarm clock. But ironically the alarm broke last week as we switched to winter time so even that doesn't work...
I think the point is that Apple actively encouraged people to upgrade (or at least said that upgrading the OS offered new benefits whilst saying nothing about a possible loss in performance).
That, coupled with the fact that the majority of people are never going to find out how to go backwards in terms of OS releases, means that Apple do have some explaining to do.
As a 3G user myself, I'm happy to see soe tweaks in 4.2, though 4.1 made a massive difference to my phone. It was pretty awful before then.
While that video may look cute with the 3G now being somewhat usable, I can tell you that as soon as a few third party apps are installed (and I do limit to 1/10th of all the apps I do own) it slows to beyond a crawl. Apps don't crash as often as on 4.0 but then that's hardly a compliment.
Yes because people just have money floating around that they can upgrade a phone every two years.
If you don't have that money lavailable you shouldn't be getting a fricking iPhone in the first place. Upgrading a phone every two years is rather standard for people on smartphone tariffs.
If Apple hadn't release iOS 4 for the 3G, people would have been bitching about that. So they got most of the features, but features cost CPU and that's what the 3G is lacking because it is an old design. However Apple did sell it until quite recently so it is good that they are supporting it still.
And continuing to optimise.
The lawsuit just has no idea about the realities of how software is developed.
Oh yeah, I do agree with you there.
should have warned about potential or known performance issues with the 3G. I have to believe they did plenty of testing prior to the release of iOS 4.x and noticed the sub-par performance.
Windows 7 is unusable on my 866 MHz Pentium 3.
Snow Leopard won't work on my old Mac at all.
4.x is slow on my old 400 MHz phone.
Same problem.
Snow Leopard won't work on my old Mac at all.
4.x is slow on my old 400 MHz phone.
Same problem.
ROFL. You implicitly excuse a multi billion tech company for not knowing that its own software will not work properly in one of its own products, but expect a random consumer to know it? And are you forgetting that Apple is pushing iOS updates trough iTunes?
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Stop trying to justify Apples screw up. Apple allowed 4.0 to be installed and not removed on the 3G.
For your examples above, installing is impossible.
Jimmy James said:
Stop trying to justify Apples screw up. Apple allowed 4.0 to be installed and not removed on the 3G.
For your examples above, installing is impossible.
Idiot.
Apple always preaches that they would not allow updates to hardware if it wasn't able to perform up to their "standards", which are usually pretty high. Since they released iOS 4 to be able to support iPhone 3G, minus multitasking (and other features), it would mean that the iPhone 3G should run just fine with iOS 4, especially without multitasking. The fact that the 3G was rendered useless (like mine) from iOS 4.0, the lawsuit is perfectly justified. Actually, all iPhone 3G owners should have been given, at the least, a heavy subsidy from Apple (or maybe a rebate) to upgrade to iPhone 4. Maybe a rebate such the end cost for the customer would be like $50 or less. Yes, the contract would be extended, but....
Apple updating to "fix" the iPhone 3G took way too long and they need to provide 3G owners something for their trouble.
Apple always preaches that they would not allow updates to hardware if it wasn't able to perform up to their "standards", which are usually pretty high. Since they released iOS 4 to be able to support iPhone 3G, minus multitasking (and other features), it would mean that the iPhone 3G should run just fine with iOS 4, especially without multitasking. The fact that the 3G was rendered useless (like mine) from iOS 4.0, the lawsuit is perfectly justified. Actually, all iPhone 3G owners should have been given, at the least, a heavy subsidy from Apple (or maybe a rebate) to upgrade to iPhone 4. Maybe a rebate such the end cost for the customer would be like $50 or less. Yes, the contract would be extended, but....
Apple updating to "fix" the iPhone 3G took way too long and they need to provide 3G owners something for their trouble.
Do Apple still have the 3.x iOS versions for download? (genuine question).
Because I can't buy apps on my iPhone as it's using an old version of 3.x, but when I try and upgrade iTunes is offering me 4.x; which I don't want - for the reason above.
I'm looking forward to this, my 3Gs has become maddeningly slow in recent weeks. Unlocking the screen can take 5 sec or more
I haven't seen any from iTunes, I go here to grab earlier firmware. http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/