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iOS 4.3 Beta Multi-Touch Gestures Demoed on iPhone, Apple Testing Internally?

3 is the magic number

eh270 said:
A multi-finger swipe may work if the back of the device was touch sensitive, I think. I know two finger swiping is for scrolling within iframes in Safari, but is there an action associated with three finger swiping? Why'd they go straight to four and five?
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I agree! I don't have 4.3 beta but I was just "mock" swiping and four and five fingers does seem awkward on the iPhone but 3 felt pretty natural actually.

Also I did notice the multitask bar will actually rotate into landscape mode.. That is a nice little new feature. <well at least new to me, I am on 4.1 still and not sure if that same feature is in 4.2>.
 
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Lostanddamned said:
Guy needs to cut his fingernails, desperately.

I know its not what I'm meant to focus on, but I can't help it when its about your fingers on a screen, and they were mankily long.

Also, did anyone else notice Picture Frame as an option in settings, isn't that an iPad only feature?
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The video seems to be of the beta release of the iPad iOS 4.3 software, installed onto the iPhone. That would explain the blank tray icon for mute and the formatting of the multitasking gestures setting, as well as the option to change the function of the side switch.
 
My concern here is that Apple may indeed be stupid over this.

Let me explain.

It's clear to anyone with half a brain that an iPad's screen being, what? 4x or 6x or 8x the size of the iPhone screen that it has to be treated differently.

Apple has some stupid notion that it's customers are utter morons and cannot realise this, so Apple needs to make the "User Experience" the same on both.

So that when a thick customer, so Apple sees them, moves from an iPhone to an iPad they are not going to be confused as they don't work in the same way.

I fear Apple may have pulled the gestures from the iPas as it's obvious due to screen size it's not going to work as well on a 3.5" display.

So if it does not work on the iPhone, then it can't work on the iPad as it would confuse their dim customers who can't work out they are different devices.

That's my concern, Apple holds back iPad due to iPhone.
 
I'm 4.3 only beta one tested day I was on the dev site and when I clicked the downline link it wouldn't work so I'll try now, can't wait for that FINALY orientating muti tasking bar
 
osx11 said:
Not enough room on the iPhone. This should be on the iPad, but ONLY on the iPad.
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Unless they drop some fingers I can't see my self doing it.

I also can't seem to see how having not button will be better, I would think the phone would be turning on all the time every time I moved it, want wait to see how they work around not having a button if it actually happens.

I can see and ipad having this, but the iphone is so small. :confused:
 
Piggie said:
My concern here is that Apple may indeed be stupid over this.

Let me explain.

It's clear to anyone with half a brain that an iPad's screen being, what? 4x or 6x or 8x the size of the iPhone screen that it has to be treated differently.

Apple has some stupid notion that it's customers are utter morons and cannot realise this, so Apple needs to make the "User Experience" the same on both.

So that when a thick customer, so Apple sees them, moves from an iPhone to an iPad they are not going to be confused as they don't work in the same way.

So if it does not work on the iPhone, then it can't work on the iPad as it would confuse their dim customers who can't work out they are different devices.

That's my concern, Apple holds back iPad due to iPhone.
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True that a lot of us are not morons but there are plenty that are. Oh trust me on that morons are everywhere even people who buy Apple products.

I like to see the ability to turn it off or change the way it works then we can have the best of both world. For example how many people know how to turn on the % for the battery. I bet some do but a lot of people have no idea you can even do this since IOS 3.0.

That said I wonder how much I will miss not been able to swipe around. thought I love my iphone and will move to 5 at end of year; I see no reason that having no button on the iphone will be a good thing, now on the ipad 2 sure I love to see it without a button since on that platform it would make sense.
 
3 finger gestures would work best on the phone. 3 finger swipe and maybe 2 fingers + thumb for pinch to return to homescreen. 4-5 is too much for the small screen.
 
Someday infants will learn these gestures before they learn to speak.

The thing with 4-5 finger gestures is that now the fraction of people that cannot operate the device increases. If you are missing one finger you can do 2 or 3 finger gestures no problem. Add in a 4th or 5th finger requirement and someone missing just one finger is at a disadvantage.
 
You know... Apple is a dirty company

They just create more trash, they have the technology to develop a good product with all the features, but they won't delivered.

It reminds me a documentary where companies agreed to build lightbulbs that lasts only 1000 hours 80 years ago when they had the technology to make them last for 25000 already back then. The end was to sell more lightbulbs to make more money while creating more trash.

Apples is one of those companies who sell things to last only 3 years, always changing processors, chaning the OS to make older models uncompatibles and reserving existing technologies for later on...

Apple makes billions, it has more money that most countries, they do not need that much, and they are aware of the amount of trash they are pushing by greed.

The iPad is just another example.
 
To all you people fighting about the home button being kept or not...

That's why it makes sense for Apple to make iOS highly customizable when it comes to these kind of gestures.

Me personally, I love to double click the home button to get to my favorites, and I'd rather Swipe Up to get to multitasking. Apple should have these options available and let the users choose the functions right for them...
 
andrew0122 said:
Here's to hoping for an iPhone with a 3.7" screen or better yet 4" anything more is just too much, but if the iPhone doesn't get any bigger I just might switch and I've owned 3 of the 4 iPhone. (3G was a worthless upgrade.)

And yes I know it's more than likely they'll keep the same 3.5" screen. . .

BUT I CAN HOPE! :rolleyes:
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Well, see how much you can stretch the iphone's screen real estate without dipping below 300 DPI.

How does that math work again?
 
Here we go again...

Apple struggling with buttons. Does it sound familiar? It sure does. The best solution is simply to use more dedicated physical buttons - like Android and WP7. People are happy with those. It's convenient. It works. I am fairly sure Apple will come to this too. It'll just take a decade or two. :p
 
the vj said:
They just create more trash, they have the technology to develop a good product with all the features, but they won't delivered.

It reminds me a documentary where companies agreed to build lightbulbs that lasts only 1000 hours 80 years ago when they had the technology to make them last for 25000 already back then. The end was to sell more lightbulbs to make more money while creating more trash.

Apples is one of those companies who sell things to last only 3 years, always changing processors, chaning the OS to make older models uncompatibles and reserving existing technologies for later on...

Apple makes billions, it has more money that most countries, they do not need that much, and they are aware of the amount of trash they are pushing by greed.

The iPad is just another example.
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What a bad bad company!

If they would only still make the 1984 128mb 9 inch b/w with floppy and no hard drive

Only MacPaint and MacWrite apps, we'd all be happy.

Are you serious?

Let's cancel the internet too and resume drumming and smoke signals:)
 
the vj said:
They just create more trash, they have the technology to develop a good product with all the features, but they won't delivered.

It reminds me a documentary where companies agreed to build lightbulbs that lasts only 1000 hours 80 years ago when they had the technology to make them last for 25000 already back then. The end was to sell more lightbulbs to make more money while creating more trash.

Apples is one of those companies who sell things to last only 3 years, always changing processors, chaning the OS to make older models uncompatibles and reserving existing technologies for later on...

Apple makes billions, it has more money that most countries, they do not need that much, and they are aware of the amount of trash they are pushing by greed.

The iPad is just another example.
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Seriously? You're accusing Apple of making products that don't last?

An iPhone model has, on average, 2 major software updates in the 2 years following its release. Before the iPhone that just didn't really happen.

Now Nokia, on the other hand, is a company that relies on selling you cheap tat that lasts the length of your contract (12 or 18 months) before you have to buy the next model because your current one is obsolete, and the only software upgrades are bug fixes. Even then, those software updates are normally held back by the network/carrier for which the phone carries their custom firmware, because they also would prefer you to buy a new one rather than keep your old one on a SIM only deal.
As for the hardware, I find the iPhone, and Apple's computers, to be well designed and, provided they're looked after, quite solid pieces of machinery. Other manufacturer's build quality often leaves something to be desired, both in the laptop and mobile spaces, IMO.

Technology moves on, of course Apple are always changing components. The retina display for iPad is possible now, but it costs too much to put into the device at the price point they want to sell it at. Next year, it'll probably be affordable as manufacturing improves.

I have a fair amount of Apple kit, but I'm no fanboy and am happy to criticise them, but your post doesn't hold water on any day of the week.
 
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Disc Golfer said:
It's about time, when I started using an ipod touch I wondered why multi touch hadn't been implemented. Its screen isn't much smaller than the macbook pro track pad that gets multi touched on all day long.
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How can you even begin to compare a phone vs. a notebook trackpad? Just because they're relatively similar size doesn't mean anything unless people only use their phone laying flat on flat surface all day.
 
To all arguing about that person's nails:
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Not fake, I know the person in real life. Image taken from her Facebook page.

Now on-topic: I think I like the gestures. Just did it with my own iPod (to see if my fingers fit at the screen) and it worked for me. It's personal opinion of course, and it's an option, so why not?
 
Jcoz said:
Well, see how much you can stretch the iphone's screen real estate without dipping below 300 DPI.

How does that math work again?
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Actually I did it myself just now...

3.75" is still about 307 DPI, max to stay above or at 300 is about 3.85"
 
wordoflife said:
If Apple take out the home button and expects me to do those type of gestures .... they're freaking crazy.

They better not take off the home button otherwise I won't be buying an iPhone.
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No! you wont buy the new iPhone, im more than willing to bet you wont quit using your current iPhone over something you dont like in the new one.

If your the only one who thinks this apple does not care and will do what they want.

I can easily all 5 fingers on my iPhone if my thumb is kinda just lying down, versus the tip touching. That being said I also do find running to the homescreen a hassle, it requires a whole different position to grasp the phone with one hand, expecially the double click.

albeit these 5 finger gestures would be impossible to do one handed as well.... I want solution for both problems! one handed, full OS control. Is that too much apple?
 
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