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Despite all the hand wringing, it's hard to imagine many happy iPhone users would defect over a three month delay.

Much better to get new features three months later than ship in summer without them and have to wait a whole extra year for them.

Speak for yourself. Us with 3GSs will jump ship, Esp with all the awesome stuff google is doing. Apple needs to get on the game and release updates more often, not the opposite. That's a horrible idea! I mean... Unlike the other manufacturers, apple only makes ONE type of new phone a year. One.


Really apple? With all your magicalness and billions of dollars you can't make one new phone a year? Pathetic. Truly. 4g is gimmicky, and I don't think it's worth selling the truly awful iPhone 4 for three more months.

Speaking of gimmicky, I don't want to have to talk to my phone to do things. This voice control better come with a UI refresh. The OS 9 look is getting long in the tooth.
 
That sounds like it makes sense, but does ATT have LTE coverage? or will they by October?

AT&T is working on 4G... like them all. None of them have wide spread 4g yet. But it's coming. In my area it will be probably 2 years, but it's coming. This is why I don't think 4G is such a big deal right now. Besides... I use the 3G only when on the road and most of the time the speed is fine for email and casual browsing. 4G would be really nice... but it's not the "big thing" for me. And I don't think it's the "big thing" for most people as much as they would like to think so. I know I'm on WiFi most of the time anyway.
 
If Apple holds back on the iPhone 5 for the fall or winter, then I would expect we're going to see a fairly major change in the same basic iPhone4 form.

FORM or FUNCTION?

I can't imagine some Rubik's-Cube type form or a LOLicopter or something. It's always going to be generally the same form with minor tweaks.

As for FUNCTION... I am surprised how they spread out the tech and update. iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad all have closely similar tech. The only reason to spread them out is for price and sales of immediate-cool and price of parts. Logically, you'd think all those items would be launched together.

iPad3 might launch in Sept/Oct with iPods in order to smack down another slate device emerging on market at that time. It would be beneficial for Apple to save up all the tech and release everything all cranked up to maximum function at the beginning of the school year.
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Should be:

Sept--iPad/iPod/iPho
June--MacPro and OSs
March--iMacs
Dec--notebooks & software suites

'Course, they don't have to do that at all and can keep to other plans, but I get the logic of it all. People will survive and thrive with iPhone 4 another 3 months.
 
(paraphrasing) "When the original iPhone was released it was EDGE only even though 3g was widespread"...

In Kalamazoo/Battle Creek, we still don't have 3G from AT&T. And many major cities are en route for "4G"
 
I hope that iOS5 is as good as we all expect. More options for voice integration would be oh so welcome. Let me listen to and respond to email and texts while driving (huge wish). But seriously, it's the one thing I'll say MS did well with their Sync technology. It is such a pleasant experience to use my iPhone in the car like that. If the phone can take even more commands from my voice I'll be ecstatic.

Add free MobileMe and Apple will be set. I bet they need that double sized data center in NC we've heard about to pull this off.

Wow, my hopes are high!
 
And this is one of the big reasons why I'm doubting this rumor about LTE.

The technology on the carrier end of things is still nascent, at best. I don't think Apple would invest lots of time and money to launch technology that would be barely functional upon launch.

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Thunderbolt anyone?
 
well, well, well...

I'm not very impressed. Rather disappointing news, isn't it ?

1) Voice control: I barely use it on my 3GS... and never see anyone using it. It's already been implemented for ages in every cellphones (remembering old Siemens GSM of 1999 already had it...) and nobody has been using it. Even more gimmicky than 3D imho... When in public transportation, you are trying to be as discreet as possible, not to shout into your phone/earphones mic. maybe for in-car purposes would voice control be a nice addition but most modern cars already offer similar, maybe superior capabilities (thinking about the Renault Carminat universal bluetooth connectivity kit which is great).

2) LTE: does it exist anywhere outside the US ? seems a tad early to me - and seeing how shy Apple was with 3G, I think we'd better wait a year or two.

What I'd rather like in my future iPhone is:

1) a built-in pico projector (making it the ultimate corporate phone in certain situations... plus a fantastic portable multimedia platform)
2)localized social awareness: discover what music people around you are listening to/what sites they're surfing on, etc (opt-in), would be a nice leap in the social network area (where Apple is a bit stagnating)

LTE will not revolutionize how people use their phones, nor will voice control - I don't see myself talking to my phone, it cannot be quicker than typing & swiping... whereas pico-projection, localized social awareness (orh whatever they may call it)... yummy...

anyway, that was just my 2 cents...
 
A New iPhone this Fall?! Well...

La-dee-frickin'-da. I still have an iPhone 3G, and I'm not eligible for an upgrade until the end of April. So, as I see it, here are my options:

1) Upgrade in April to tech that's already a year old.
2) Hold on to a phone that is slower than cold molasses for another 6-8 mos., with the POSSIBILITY of a new, faster, and better phone.

3) Move to Android (perhaps the Motorola Atrix) and send the iPhone, Apple, and their seemingly academic product refresh cycles packing.

I have been, in my past, an Apple apologist; I own both a Macbook and an iPad, and love them both. They have the right to release their products when they want. But for some reason, Apple's decision to mix-up their refreshment cycles NOW burns me. I have been looking forward--for once--to upgrading my device at around the time the newest iPhone hits the market, and when I finally get the chance to do it, Apple (potentially) shifts the cycle. Not cool with me.

So, even though I love iOs, I may jump to Android for a couple of years, just to check it out.
 
This would be nice. I'd like to be able to tell my phone to read an email or text to me when I receive one while driving. However, I get into arguments all the time with the Siri app. We weren't on speaking terms for about a month after the last fiasco, (she kept telling me she couldn't help me because she didn't know my home address even though I wasn't at home and I couldn't see how knowing that would help me find a Taco Bell), but we recently made amends and the relationship, although tenuous, is improving.
 
It is really pending on whether AT&T will be up to par with Verizon's LTE by this fall... This is why I still think that the iPhone 5 will have no LTE(coming in June again), and the iPhone 6 will be coming out in June/July of 2012 offered with 4G(LTE) from either Verizon or AT&T...
 
That sounds like it makes sense, but does ATT have LTE coverage? or will they by October?

AT&T is going to be busy revamping T-Mobile's towers, and they still have not upgraded there current system's for more bar's in more place's .

I've been in NYC where there supposed to be up to date and the latest technology, reset my iPhone so I was on there towers down there and still had 3 dropped calls , my friend who is Verizon has NEVER had a dropped call, either with there black berry or iPhone.

If Verizon would update there towers to all LTE I'd port over as soon as a LTE iPhone comes out but for now I'm still using a 3G iPhone and seriously thinking of going to a pay as you go till Apple, Verizon, & AT&T get there act together and start using technology of today and not the past, easier said than done but if they want to do it they will and soon.

Hopefully before the economy tanks out again
 
La-dee-frickin'-da. I still have an iPhone 3G, and I'm not eligible for an upgrade until the end of April. So, as I see it, here are my options:

1) Upgrade in April to tech that's already a year old.
2) Hold on to a phone that is slower than cold molasses for another 6-8 mos., with the POSSIBILITY of a new, faster, and better phone.

3) Move to Android (perhaps the Motorola Atrix) and send the iPhone, Apple, and their seemingly academic product refresh cycles packing.

I have been, in my past, an Apple apologist; I own both a Macbook and an iPad, and love them both. They have the right to release their products when they want. But for some reason, Apple's decision to mix-up their refreshment cycles NOW burns me. I have been looking forward--for once--to upgrading my device at around the time the newest iPhone hits the market, and when I finally get the chance to do it, Apple (potentially) shifts the cycle. Not cool with me.

So, even though I love iOs, I may jump to Android for a couple of years, just to check it out.

You're right. How insensitive of them to not base their business decisions on your upgrade cycle. No, wait. That's ridiculous. Never mind.

If the reports are to be believed, if they were to release iPhone 5 in June it wouldn't have LTE. You'd just be getting a slightly upgraded version of the 4. Wouldn't you rather wait another 4 months and get something much more future-proof?
 
This is surprising. I feel like if Apple does the voice integration into iOS well enough, it could be the future of iOS. Sort of like how multitouch got things started, voice will bring it even further. I bet there were tons of people out there who were doubting touchscreens on phones 4 years ago. Everyone still wanted a keyboard.
 
as long as basic features like
-a real copy-paste throughout the entire system
-and a more open file system
-and real printing capabilities
-and video out for all apps
-a better notification system
-a better switching between "multitasked" apps
are missing I don't care about some voice feature or an AI system.
 
Speak for yourself. Us with 3GSs will jump ship, Esp with all the awesome stuff google is doing. Apple needs to get on the game and release updates more often, not the opposite. That's a horrible idea! I mean... Unlike the other manufacturers, apple only makes ONE type of new phone a year. One.

Something tells me that one still using a 3GS isn't likely a must have "latest and greatest" kind of consumer. I had a 3GS which I bought on Day One. ATT let nearly everyone upgrade early to the 4 so I did. It was a no brainer. Why you stuck it out w/ the 3GS I can't say but to be bitching and moaning Apple doesn't upgrade fast enough like you are is silly. If you only upgrade every 3 years what difference would more frequent upgrades possibly make in your life? I think you protesteth too much.
 
2)localized social awareness: discover what music people around you are listening to/what sites they're surfing on, etc (opt-in), would be a nice leap in the social network area (where Apple is a bit stagnating)

I can't see many people opting into that, at least the latter part.
 
Not sure about Voice Control... No matter how well it works, I will probably feel strange taking to a phone. And most of the time it's just easier to press a button than to say it.

This might be in response to Google's voice thing though, which also recognizes "Plain English" and works with speech-to-text instead of typing. This might be something cool for writing text messages and stuff like that, as typing on the iPhone isn't the best.
 
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