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I dont suppose the music volume is any louder in 6.1, is it?

By volume I mean when listening to music through headphones etc
 
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This is why betas are for developers, and they specifically tell you NOT to install the beta on a device you depend on. This a risk you take when installing beta software. If I recall, this has happened once before, where the beta expired before the next one was released. I could be wrong on that, it was an earlier version.

So basically every developer should be able to afford multiple iDevices?

Cute logic
 
Do betas expire on the day?like beta 4 is suppose to expire monday so if they dont release the GM or beta 5 monday morning the device is render useless the minute the clock strikes midnight Pacific Time on monday? or would it take effect the following day tuesday?
 
Do betas expire on the day?like beta 4 is suppose to expire monday so if they dont release the GM or beta 5 monday morning the device is render useless the minute the clock strikes midnight Pacific Time on monday? or would it take effect the following day tuesday?

At this rate, we will find out the answer to this on our very own device next week.
 
Is there a list of all of the changes in 6.1 somewhere? Usually it's in the first post of the thread and you are titting yourself if you think I'm going to read the whole thread with all this bickering :p
 
Makes sense to announce the official iOS 6.1 release during the conference call. Didn't they do something like that with Mountain Lion?

I think they announced it would be available the next day..


Either way, here's hoping we get some love from Apple today :cool:
 
Seriously, are bug fixes the only thing discovered in this update? I don't use Android, but Google's .1 and .2 releases for Jelly Bean for instance were huge updates.

Seems like this should be a .0.1 update.
 
So basically every developer should be able to afford multiple iDevices?

Cute logic

Actually, yes. Most developers have several devices used specifically for development and testing. If you can't afford a second device, then you shouldn't install beta software with the potential to expire leaving your device useless for a time.

Pretty simple logic really.

This information is no surprise to developers. You're warned of the risk when you install the beta software. Don't get mad at Apple because you might be out of luck, blame yourself for installing beta software on your main device when you know the risk.
 
Actually, yes. Most developers have several devices used specifically for development and testing. If you can't afford a second device, then you shouldn't install beta software with the potential to expire leaving your device useless for a time.

Pretty simple logic really.

This information is no surprise to developers. You're warned of the risk when you install the beta software. Don't get mad at Apple because you might be out of luck, blame yourself for installing beta software on your main device when you know the risk.

Lol oh boy, stop acting like apple gave birth to you or something

Even if I installed it on a testing device and the beta expires, am I supposed to terminate all of my developing work because apple just bricked my testing device by not releasing a new build on time? Pretty inexcusable for a company with $140 billion in the bank.
 
Lol oh boy, stop acting like apple gave birth to you or something

I'm not even sure what this means... The risk of installing beta software is made very clear when you sign up for a developer license and read the agreements. How silly of me to take this possibility seriously. It might be in your best interest to invest in a "development" device so you don't run into this issue again.

Even if I installed it on a testing device and the beta expires, am I supposed to terminate all of my developing work because apple just bricked my testing device by not releasing a new build on time? Pretty inexcusable for a company with $140 billion in the bank.

The device will be operational again when the next beta or GM is released. You knew the risk. Stop crying.
 
Actually, yes. Most developers have several devices used specifically for development and testing. If you can't afford a second device, then you shouldn't install beta software with the potential to expire leaving your device useless for a time.

Pretty simple logic really.

This information is no surprise to developers. You're warned of the risk when you install the beta software. Don't get mad at Apple because you might be out of luck, blame yourself for installing beta software on your main device when you know the risk.

Cool story bro..


But seriously, has Apple done this in the past?
 
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I want to say once, 4.2. I'm not 100%, but I remember a day or 2 of mass panic. It may have just been extremely close, like a day or two before.

I was just curious. I can't see any reasoning for them postponing, but oh well.

So, if it does expire can I DFU restore to 6.0.2?
 
I was just curious. I can't see any reasoning for them postponing, but oh well.

So, if it does expire can I DFU restore to 6.0.2?

I'm pretty certain you need to wait, unfortunately. There's still 5 days left before the expiration date. I think it's safe to assume a new release is coming as I'm sure Apple doesn't want to be inundated with phone calls and email from developers, upset.
 
I was just curious. I can't see any reasoning for them postponing, but oh well.

So, if it does expire can I DFU restore to 6.0.2?

Yup :) all beta's allow the developer to restore to the current iOS, which would be 6.0.2 at the moment.
 
Yup :) all beta's allow the developer to restore to the current iOS, which would be 6.0.2 at the moment.

I figured but I've only been on the betas since iOS 5...

I've just heard horror stories of battery life on 6.0.2, so really don't wanna downgrade.
 
Looks like we MAY be getting 6.1 next week.

iOS 6.1 is required for using LTE in certain countries i.e. Denmark. Tim Cook has just mentioned in the conference call that they are supporting LTE in these countries as of next week. Therefore it is likely to assume we will see iOS 6.1 or another variant of iOS next week to support this.
 
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