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iOS 6 is BORING?

For me, I don't care how it looks so much as how it functions. You are correct that visually, it's the same, but I think the changes they are making/adding will only add to the functionality. I can't wait to load it up.

I'm thinking Maps is going to be a fantastic change. I'd like to see such continued innovation.
 
TennisandMusic said:
Pretty funny comment considering using "are" for a company or group is how the English actually speak.
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Are is acceptable in both English and American-English when referring to a collective/company or group, as Apple are not an individual, are is perfectly acceptable whichever variation of the English language you speak.

The general rule is that if a sentence starts with a singular noun, then 'is' is the correct usage, if started with a plural noun then 'are' is correct.

However when talking about a group, in this instance 'Apple', both Is and Are are accepted!

Welcome to the confusing joy of language!

Source - previous linguistics scholar
 
iamdavekennedy said:
However when talking about a group, in this instance 'Apple', both Is and Are are accepted!
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See, that's not what I was taught. What I was taught is that if you are talking about a group acting as an unified entity, you should use "is." If you are talking about a group but they are acting as individuals within that group, or there are different subgroups within the main group doing different things, then you use "are." But the fact is, I can't think of a good example of the second type of usage -- I know I've seen it once in a while, but overall, it's rare.
 
To be honest, I actually like 5.1 the best so far. Battery life is great and very stable.

iOS will never be revolutionary just like osx. IT is what it is, simple to use and stable
 
Night Spring said:
See, that's not what I was taught. What I was taught is that if you are talking about a group acting as an unified entity, you should use "is." If you are talking about a group but they are acting as individuals within that group, or there are different subgroups within the main group doing different things, then you use "are." But the fact is, I can't think of a good example of the second type of usage -- I know I've seen it once in a while, but overall, it's rare.
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It just may not be as popular in 'modern' American-English in that case, which is why most Americans regard it as a 'British' thing, it's came up before a few times on this forum alone!
 
iamdavekennedy said:
It just may not be as popular in 'modern' American-English in that case, which is why most Americans regard it as a 'British' thing, it's came up before a few times on this forum alone!
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Well, I can imagaine "are" for groups becoming more popular in spoken/casual usage, but has it gotten to the point where it is being taught as "accepted usage" for formal writing in American schools? (feeling old :eek:)
 
Night Spring said:
Well, I can imagaine "are" for groups becoming more popular in spoken/casual usage, but has it gotten to the point where it is being taught as "accepted usage" for formal writing in American schools? (feeling old :eek:)
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There was some bizarre stipulation regarding admission to a dictionary, I can't remember the exact quota required but it was round about 3. If a word was cited and referenced as being published in 3 works of non-fiction it was eligible for admission to the Oxford English dictionary upon request.

However, there are also cases wherein a word has been appealed for inclusion by enough parties that it is included in the next edition, or even more bizarre, the popularisation of slang words... the last I really remember going in on that grounds were 'Bahookie' (Scottish slang for Buttocks) 'Crunk' (Genre of Dance/Hip Hop music, also blended slang for "Crazy Drunk") 'Celebutante' (Originally 1930's slang for debutante/celebrity that came back into fashion a few years ago in reference to 'Reality TV' stars)

Language is a bizarre one, we are making it up as we go along and well.. it's much argued that the evolution of it isn't exactly much of an evolution at all!

Now... Back to topic everyone! (sorry) :D
 
iamdavekennedy said:
Language is a bizarre one, we are making it up as we go along and well.. it's much argued that the evolution of it isn't exactly much of an evolution at all!
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Yes, I know that, I took Intro to Linguistics in college. But you didn't answer my question, which was, is using the plural verb form for groups being taught as "correct" usage in American schools today (along with usage of the singular form), or were you merely noting that that usage has gotten more popular in recent years? Adding words to dictionaries is a separate issue, isn't it?

Sorry, everyone, for continuing the OT, just trying to get clarification.
 
Night Spring said:
Yes, I know that, I took Intro to Linguistics in college. But you didn't answer my question, which was, is using the plural verb form for groups being taught as "correct" usage in American schools today (along with usage of the singular form), or were you merely noting that that usage has gotten more popular in recent years? Adding words to dictionaries is a separate issue, isn't it?

Sorry, everyone, for continuing the OT, just trying to get clarification.
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Sorry, I thought it was evident from my previous post! (oops) I'm speaking from within the UK, but the American-English question was raised and we were informed that it was the same in both variations of the English language!
 
iamdavekennedy said:
Sorry, I thought it was evident from my previous post! (oops) I'm speaking from within the UK, but the American-English question was raised and we were informed that it was the same in both variations of the English language!
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Ah, ok, thanks! Now I really do feel old because seeing "Apple are" always feels so grating to me!

Now back to the topic, for real this time! :p
 
Night Spring said:
Ah, ok, thanks! Now I really do feel old because seeing "Apple are" always feels so grating to me!

Now back to the topic, for real this time! :p
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Seeing "Apple are" always drove me nuts until I learned it's a Euro thing and not just some stubborn view that a corporation is composed of individuals so we say "are" type thing no matter how rediculous it sounds to the American ear.

Whereas here (in the good old U S and A), we know a corporation is not composed of individuals, but rather, heartless, brain eating zombies.... Or something like that...:p
 
lucasgladding said:
How do you evaluate how advanced an OS is? Have you considered what the OS provides to developers? To me, enabling developers is the most important thing an OS can do.

I don't have an opinion about which OS is most advanced, but I don't think "advanced" is about window dressing and widgets. I'm not saying that's not important, but it's not everything (or even a major consideration for me). Apple could have added the more visible features years ago, but their bread and butter (indirect) is the App Store. The nature of OS updates reflects that.

I realize Apple may be tyrannical with policies, but that is a different issue altogether. They have enabled developers to do some great things. I would be interested in a fair comparison of the alternatives from a developer perspective. Non-developers might think that doesn't matter, but the benefits are reaped every time someone opens a third-party app.
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Some great things? Like not even having real multi-tasking?

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pmz said:
Yes you and and the other 12 year olds should jump ship you can change the icons on your home screen and make them look like different Cat's faces.

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According to who????

You?!?!

Good grief. Adults don't look at their phone and say, "Wow it looks so dated!"

Unreal.
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They do... It's looked the same since iOS 2 FFS! Get your head out your ass.
 
whodareswins said:
Some great things? Like not even having real multi-tasking?
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iOS has "real" multitasking, Apple just restricts which apps have access in the background. App Store policies have nothing to do with which OS is more advanced, and their policies get in the way much less often than some like to think. If you're talking about a UI for background apps, that could be beneficial in some cases, but it could also be abused in others. Apple has taken the conservative approach, which is fine with me, but I understand how some others would prefer something different.

OK, you want examples?
Core Data / UIManagedDocument
Core Animation
Grand Central Dispatch
Core Audio / Audio Units
Core Image / Core Video
and ...
Cocoa touch / Xcode

And the item I keep reading about:
Superior support for multiple cores

Some might care, but chalk me up as another that doesn't complain about the UI being outdated. That said, iOS6 updates the standard controls, which does freshen things up quite a bit.

PS: If you're just talking about the UI being behind, I agree in some ways, but not in others. I think they do many things right (UI responsiveness, extensive use of Core Animation to communicate state changes, etc).
 
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lucar said:
The only really "new thing" is maps, other than that, it is boring, especially the lock screen still remains empty.
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If I didn't hide lock screen notifications for most apps, mine would be far from empty. What do you want on your lock screen? I'm seriously asking, not taunting.

Maps is pretty significant, and it is one of my biggest requests since Android got Maps 5. Passbook and Maps both bring opportunities for 3rd parties too, which counts as an OS feature in my books.
 
I will not judge iOS 6 until it's fall release.Do you remember iOS 5 ? We didn't know about Siri until the end of the betas.
 
iOS is beyond stale with the static grids. Android is cool with widgets but is still too junky of an operating system with random hardware. Looks like Windows Phone will be the perfect candidate moving forward - locked down enough to provide a good user experience but still innovative with live tiles that provide automatic updates at a glance. Also the most beautiful interface.
 
Mad Mac said:
iOS is beyond stale with the static grids. Android is cool with widgets but is still too junky of an operating system with random hardware. Looks like Windows Phone will be the perfect candidate moving forward - locked down enough to provide a good user experience but still innovative with live tiles that provide automatic updates at a glance. Also the most beautiful interface.
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More of a threat to Android than to Apple. In the end consumers don't really care about the OS they care about their apps. So all the widgets and whatnot don't mean anything when you're actually in an app.

That's why Apple pours its resources into developer tools so that the experience inside the app is superior.

iOS 6.0 has a LOT of developer facing improvements that consumers won't give a rip about until they see the improvement manifest in some nifty feature inside an app.
 
UI is one of the major reasons I went with Android for my phone. I love my iPad but I do so, so wish they'd do something with the UI. I mean, look at my phone, I'm running stock with almost no changes when I could change anything I want and it's still dramatically better than iOS to me.


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Again, this is stock with just background changes. You can do crazy customization on Android, most without rooting.
 
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