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Absolutely agreed. That is the problem with Facebook and Google... you are not their customer... the agencies that they sell your information to are their true customers. Apple, please don't bake Spybook into any of your OS. Leave it up to customers whether they want those apps!

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In the interest of iOS moving forward, this is one thing it absolutely needs. They should also allow you to post to both at the same time.
 
Actually, I think that most people without FB and XBox 360 and a real job not living in their mama's basement are the ones who are grown up. We call them adults...
So I think the comment should be Catch up, we are already there.

So I guess as a 41 year old married professional who owns/is president of his own company, uses Twitter and Facebook throughout my day for both business and personal reasons, and owns an XBox 360, I guess I should just give all that up and move back in with my parents, huh?

The extent to which some of you people are expending a lot of churlish effort to knock other MacRumors users down says a lot about your own insecurity. Some of my clients interact with me on the phone or in face-to-face meetings. Others use e-mail. Others Facebook, or even text messages. I could care less how they want to communicate with me. Same goes for the friends I have scattered all over the U.S. and world from when I was a kid all the way up through college and my career. If my mobile device integrates the single most popular social network on the planet into my efforts to stay in touch with people who are important to me and my clients, that's a net plus no matter how you want to spin it.

You don't like Facebook/Twitter/The color blue/anchovies on pizza? Awesome, good for you: You made a choice and I respect that. But making sure everyone knows about your choice, and how much better you think you are because of that choice, defines you as nothing but a slave to people's perceptions.

"Grow up" indeed.
 
Yeah this seems to be lost among the "FB is for kids who don't socialize" crowd. The number of active FB users is supposed to hit 1 billion by the end of this year. A lot of them are iOS users. This feature is for them.

Twitter by comparison only has about 150 million actives.



Make a dummy FB account

Or make a real account and leave your profile blank and don't make any connections

There, win/win and FB doesn't have any info to persecute you for whatever you think they're gonna persecute you for.

Personally I think the whole privacy angle is overblown and perpetuated by people who don't take the time to learn the privacy controls, or are in the habit of spewing their life history every time they sign up for something . If you don't want FB to monetize off your info or you're paranoid about your info being misused, don't give them your info in the first place, don't post pictures, etc

I don't need to take time to learn privacy controls. By default my privacy should be private. Sadly, most of the time it is the other way around.
 
"I won't use it and therefore it shouldn't be in the OS!" - Crusty MacRumors users that are out of touch with how the majority of Apple's customer base (society) lives their lives in 2012.

Grow up.

Thats a bit rich. He is probably a long time Mac user who see's things as tools. To get a job done.

Not the typical sheep who must have the next 'fad' from a glorified toy company.

Apple's customer base? The 80% of kids who couldn't string a paragraph together? That's a set of customers to be proud of.
 
Absolutely agreed. That is the problem with Facebook and Google... you are not their customer... the agencies that they sell your information to are their true customers. Apple, please don't bake Spybook into any of your OS. Leave it up to customers whether they want those apps!

Exactly, people are too stupid or blind to see the facts, you get a FREE service yet the company was valued at 100 BILLION dollars!! Which we all know soon plummeted, but rumours are that was so some scamming could happen and people get very rich of it....
But yes, with Facebook, your comments, what you like, what you do, your photos, your habits are ALL commodities it sells.
Christ, big employers hire companies to do profiles on your FB account irrespective of your security settings to screen you before they interview you.

That's why I have and will always state, Facebook would sell your very soul for profit if it could get it..

Just think about the family photos on their, the children, all property of Facebook now to use at it sees fit..
 
I think Apple is hitching themselves to a sinking anchor with this move. Facebook is on the decline.
 
It is amazing how a feature that could have easily been implemented in iOS 5 alongside Twitter, is probably gonna be announced one of the "killer features" of iOS 6. Seriously, there is no way this feature wasn't ready back then, as this takes maybe 2 days of programming.

If we are lucky iOS 7 comes with an "all new" Google+ integration and iOS 8 finally brings us widgets. It's not like I'm not excited about the little features iOS 6 will bring, I just hate the fact that Apple and the community makes such a big deal out of tiny features, most of them on the wish-list for years and a standard feature in Android.

It's time for some huge leaps in iOS 6, not just those nice too have things other developers would hide in the changelog because it's nothing special. Take for instance the 3G-switch reintroduced with iOS 5.1 - such a big deal to everyone, although it should have never disappeared in the first place. Apple introduces a new settings-switch and everyone goes crazy about it. Why?

I just hope they introduce a settings dialog for Twitter/Facebook integration for people who only use one of the two services or don't want to have every menu flooded with social network buttons.

It probably wasn't ready as the agreements with FB weren't in place.

Personally I don't care for widgets. I have an android device and hate it, I also have a WP 7 phone and like it. I love my iPhone 4S and new iPad. Why? Because of the lack of annoying widgets taking up valuable screen real estate. I like iOS 5.1.1 and find it a fairly mature OS.

I have a FB account but won't be entering my details into any baked in integration. I'd rather keep them separate. That's my preference, but I have no objection to the feature being available to those who want it.

For me the biggest area that needs updating is maps. Google maps quite frankly suck cartographically. Contour lines are missing (I know there is the terrain function, but then the roads are monochrome), as are public footpaths.

I'm hoping that maps will indeed see the big update that was touted.
 
I am pretty sure that by the time iOS 6 does come out (Don't know at all how the dev. goes or when it's planned for release) that they'll drop the Facebook part of it. Why? Because FB probably won't be around much longer.
 
Absolutely agreed. That is the problem with Facebook and Google... you are not their customer... the agencies that they sell your information to are their true customers. Apple, please don't bake Spybook into any of your OS. Leave it up to customers whether they want those apps!

You don't get it. It's still optional. You don't provide sign in details, the apps are disabled. There that wasn't so hard was it?
 
You don't get it. It's still optional. You don't provide sign in details, the apps are disabled. There that wasn't so hard was it?

That seems a bit drastic, what if you want to use it, sometimes. Isn't a per app granularity a better fit?
 
Facebook Kill Switch

If there's one checkbox in system preferences enabling me to switch off all Facebook supporting code then I will sleep better. From a security standpoint I don't want my phone initiating any contact with Facebook servers.

On Mac OS X I disallow any facebook.com http requests via Little Snitch. Would like the same control on iOS.
 
That seems a bit drastic, what if you want to use it, sometimes. Isn't a per app granularity a better fit?

There is a very suitable workaround. It's called safari. It's actually better than the facebook app! (IMHO)

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If there's one checkbox in system preferences enabling me to switch off all Facebook supporting code then I will sleep better. From a security standpoint I don't want my phone initiating any contact with Facebook servers.

On Mac OS X I disallow any facebook.com http requests via Little Snitch. Would like the same control on iOS.

Just don't give iOS any facebook account details and it can't sign into Facebook. easy!
 
I don't need to take time to learn privacy controls. By default my privacy should be private. Sadly, most of the time it is the other way around.

No, third parties can't read your mind and know what info you expect to be private. Especially if it's information that you volunteer to them

Personally, I think people who say things like that, have no concept of what is going on on the internet. Yes, you can assume that you "just don't log in" or "control your privacy setting appropriately", but I can assure you, you will make one regrettable mistake one day. Either you completely shut off your information or you make yourself vulnerable on the internet (which is not a good idea, in my opinion at least). There is no in between, there is no "wise" way to use facebook.
And no, I don't say this because "it's cool to dislike popular things". I say this, because I have seen people making very sad decisions via facebook without even knowing what they are doing. No one can claim to know for sure what they are doing when they use facebook in various ways. There are just so many ways to make mistakes on facebook. I could tell you various (hilarious or tragic depending on humor) stories how facebook devastated lives, but that would probably go to far. I just want to tell you that this is no "hysteria" or "paranoia". This is very much reality, I've seen it.

Topic: Why not, I won't use it if Apple gives me the choice. I think they will.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like your beef is with internet privacy in general, not FB specifically

If not, explain why creating a FB account is a black/white vulnerability mistake, and creating a user account on this message board isn't
 
There is a very suitable workaround. It's called safari. It's actually better than the facebook app! (IMHO)


Yes as long as you only interact with Facebook directly, not through integration in other apps, or used for authentication in places other than FB.
 
So how does allowing Apple to integrate Facebook into iOS solve their advertising issues on mobile?

It doesn't. But that's facebook's problem. They will probably update their app to solve it. Which is not required to be installed for the OS integration to work.
 
I don't think you understand how this works.
Apple needs *permission* from Facebook to use its API services and integrate it into iOS.
Since Facebook will derive no revenue from the use of Facebook's APIs on an iOS device, they will charge Apple a fee for the privilege.

At the presentation of iOS 5, many analysts believed that it was the other way around, meaning that Apple intended to integrate either Facebook or Twitter into iOS and Twitter "made a better offer". For me that is more plausible than Apple having to pay something, as it brings additional users to Twitter/Facebook if you have this feature spread all over iOS.

At the moment, Facebook doesn't even derive revenue from their own iOS App, so why would they want a compensation for someone else who is using their API, as thousands of unofficial, free Apps already do? Also, a Facebook integration does not completely substitute for the App, as I doubt that you can see the whole newsfeed on iOS or directly access pages. So this still leaves Facebook with ways to place some advertisement in their App.
 
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