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iOS 6 to Bring Systemwide Facebook Integration
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You know your life is cushy when you can use the word "ordeal" in reference to site logins.
I am grown up which is why I am not using FB... Prefer real social interactions, remember, the ones where you actually talked to people
Being 62 I think I qualify as a 'grown up'. Facebook and other social networks are great for augmenting 'real social interactions'. They will never replace them.
The App? a.) presumably there is more than one b.) this whole discussion is based on a hypothesis.
Sad. I hope if they really do bloat up iOS to support Facebook they also actually put in some of the APIs real developers are asking for which might help us write better apps. Some cool stuff in iOS, then they waste time adding cruft like twitter support which was happily handled by a 3rd party library in the first place.
If that do facebook too, that's another switch in the settings panel will stay firmly off.
If that do facebook too, that's another switch in the settings panel will stay firmly off.
Couldn't disagree more. Just having a presence in iOS6 does not constitute a "fully baked mobile strategy". FB has to figure out how to make money off that presence. Based on their own admissions, they have no clue how they are going to do that. They can't even articulate a strategy to shareholders.
And besides, FB has had a presence on iOS (and Android) for several years through browser access and more recently through their app, yet still have no mobile strategy. So presence alone is not enough.
Facebook integration? No thanks, my info, my privacy. Still keeping Twitter though.
Looks like i'll have a big F ( off ) on my settings screen.
Looks like i'll have a big F ( off ) on my settings screen.
No way, photostream is a heavyweight part of the iOS future... If that is what you meant by 'gallery'
Creating an account on facebook does not necessarily imply that you use it. But I'm talking about using it, even passively.
Basically, the idea is that you suddenly are not just a (mostly) anonymous IP, suddenly you are a name, who knows this other name, who liked this, who visited that site, who was linked to an image, etc. Suddenly you have all this information about you on the internet. Suddenly people can use this to damage you.
This message board however, you know, Sgt. Pepper is not my real name. I'm not a Sgt. and my name is not even "Pepper". So this is not connected to my identity. Nobody here knows who I am, neither does anyone in "the real world" know I am posting here as SgtPepper. You see, that is the difference. Even though I have an identity on this board, this identity is not connected to my real identity.
Where I live, Twitter has less than 10% of Facebooks user base. I use twitter, but only as a simple news reader, and that's how must I know use it. So Twitter and Facebook aren't really comparable, they are really different things.
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It's the the other way around. Facebook, Twitter and Google, would have to pay to be included in something like this. Google for instance pay ALOT to be the default search engine. All this drives business to Facebook and Google, and as you say, they are both ad companies and make their money from people using their services.
No I mean Gallery, Apple (former) photo sharing product that will be discontinued along with MobileMe.
And for anyone still thinking this was fine, did you all forget that Apple dropped Facebook integration with Ping at the last minute due to Facebook's 'onerous terms' demands?
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ous_terms_kept_facebook_ties_out_of_ping.html
Apple's new music-related social network, Ping, is not tied in to Facebook because the website demanded "onerous terms" that Steve Jobs said his company could not agree to.
Jobs spoke with Kara Swisher of BoomTown after Wednesday's event, and revealed that Apple talked to Facebook about potential partnerships related to Ping. While the discussions did not result in a deal, there is plenty of evidence that Facebook connectivity was likely a part of Ping until it was pulled before launch.
Jobs said the terms demanded by Facebook were ones that his company could not sign off on. However, some have spotted evidence of Facebook Connect compatibility within Ping, leading Cult of Mac to conclude that "Facebook's terms only became onerous at the last minute."
Phil Schiller, senior vice president of worldwide product marketing at Apple, even said in an interview Wednesday that Ping would allow users to use Facebook to find their friends.
Executives at Facebook also anonymously shared with Swisher their frustration that Ping's layout and blue color scheme resembles Facebook. However, the social networking site's official statement made no such comments.
"Facebook believes in connecting people with their interests and we've partnered with innovative developers around the world who share this vision," the company said. "Facebook and Apple have cooperated successfully in the past to offer people great social experiences and we look forward to doing so in the future."
and this is Tim Cook's Apple now, not Steve Jobs....
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ous_terms_kept_facebook_ties_out_of_ping.html
Apple's new music-related social network, Ping, is not tied in to Facebook because the website demanded "onerous terms" that Steve Jobs said his company could not agree to.
Jobs spoke with Kara Swisher of BoomTown after Wednesday's event, and revealed that Apple talked to Facebook about potential partnerships related to Ping. While the discussions did not result in a deal, there is plenty of evidence that Facebook connectivity was likely a part of Ping until it was pulled before launch.
Jobs said the terms demanded by Facebook were ones that his company could not sign off on. However, some have spotted evidence of Facebook Connect compatibility within Ping, leading Cult of Mac to conclude that "Facebook's terms only became onerous at the last minute."
Phil Schiller, senior vice president of worldwide product marketing at Apple, even said in an interview Wednesday that Ping would allow users to use Facebook to find their friends.
Executives at Facebook also anonymously shared with Swisher their frustration that Ping's layout and blue color scheme resembles Facebook. However, the social networking site's official statement made no such comments.
"Facebook believes in connecting people with their interests and we've partnered with innovative developers around the world who share this vision," the company said. "Facebook and Apple have cooperated successfully in the past to offer people great social experiences and we look forward to doing so in the future."
and this is Tim Cook's Apple now, not Steve Jobs....
In connection with the trend for Facebook users to do their "email" on the service, we will also see a convergence to data only service on the device. No more voice or text plan, but VoIP for phone and online sms for text.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...v4xtqg?docId=27b164dd4bfa43a882ce8fb2a137a81c
https://forums.macrumors.com/search/?searchid=28045179
(search forums for posts by Rocketman with key words data only plan)
Usage trends are shifting.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/9036777/
Rocketman
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...v4xtqg?docId=27b164dd4bfa43a882ce8fb2a137a81c
https://forums.macrumors.com/search/?searchid=28045179
(search forums for posts by Rocketman with key words data only plan)
Usage trends are shifting.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/9036777/
Rocketman
Actually I was thinking you were a Beatles fan.
And you can do the same thing on FB by creating a dummy account
Like I said, you're responsible for information you volunteer. If you don't want people to know who you are, don't volunteer info that tells them who you are. And I bring up this message board because even on a tech forum like macrumors I can find the same info on here that I would find on FB. People give up a lot of info when they're arguing and trying to validate themselves. They post their websites in their sig. They post their age and location. They post their picture. They post their jobs in what do you do for a living threads and their education in what kind of degree do you have threads. I can go in the videogame forum and find threads with peoples' PSN and XBOXLive handles. Some post their real names or use handles based off their real names.
Basically if you're gonna argue that the ability to use discretion on this board makes a difference, you have to recognize the same type of discretion can be used on FB
barf
If I used Apple IOS, I'd have "thrown up in my mouth a little" when I read this.
I hope that there's a "hard kill" switch on this for people who want nothing to do with FB.
If I used Apple IOS, I'd have "thrown up in my mouth a little" when I read this.
I hope that there's a "hard kill" switch on this for people who want nothing to do with FB.
Very nicely put.
Seems an odd move when in other areas they seem to be wanting to move away from the major players even to their detriment (e.g. google maps). As long as I can turn it all off so I never see so much as a hint of that logo, it will be okay either way, but with the post-Lion Apple I don't feel they're going to make much optional
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You said "If I used..." so I am going to assume you have never used iOS and therefore have not seen how Twitter was integrated. All it does is basically adds an extra button to share with when it comes to pictures and articles. Although since I don't tweet stuff I am not certain if there is more to it or not. However, I do know that it is optional. My iPhone doesn't spontaneously tweet out all my text messages or websites I'm viewing. There doesn't need to be a "hard kill" switch as there is nothing to switch off! Anything having to do with Facebook would be purely optional and at the user's discretion. If you are one of the people who thinks they are cool because they're above all that Facebook stuff then this will have absolutely positively zero effect on you. If you are someone who is concerned about privacy then all you have to do is not use this particular optional featured.
I swear no other thread on this site has ever frustrated me more than this one.
Android does this and quite well. Most apps have a share button that allows to to post something with another app. Works extremely well. Apple should do something like this. It allows you post stuff from other apps without letting facebook access the entire OS.
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All I really want is the ability to upload photos to facebook directly from the camera or photos app, and to share webpages from safari to facebook. If that's all they add I'll be happy.
I swear, after reading a ton of these responses, I get the feeling that some of you have no clue of how Twitter is integrated into iOS, because if you were, you'd understand how an integrated Facebook can easily be avoided just as Twitter can.