iOS 6 Users Expressing Discontent Over Automatic iOS 7 Over-the-Air Downloads

[barkmonster]

I've had my iPad on WiFi all week long running 6.1.3 and with 23.6GB free space, my 7.0 upgrade has not downloaded. Must be something happening with only certain people.

My iPhone on 6.1.3 is the same way. Both were upgraded to 7.0 and then downgraded to 6.1.3.

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Thank you. Now the arrogant contrarians can shut their noise

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Apparently, the only way to "choose" NOT to download the update is to be constantly on guard against having free space, having wifi turned on, and being plugged in at the same time. That sort of thing gets tiresome fast.

Wi-Fi is never off, I charge it nightly, I synced it while plugged into my Mac multiple times after the iOS7 update was available and yet, when the update notification came up on my iPhone I "chose" not to update because I waiting to read people's experiences of the changes first and making sure there's no glaring bugs that are fixed with a later update. Nothing tiresome about that, just a fact you can't stand because it contradicts your set in stone views and the views of those with your attitute.

look at those images in the post I quoted, you can't deny facts.

 

[lars666]

Thank you. Now the arrogant contrarians can shut their noise

So you think because of one guy posted this screenshot, the conclusion and "fact" is that all the others who experience this problem pressed some "okay" button, actively accepted their installer packer download and are simply too dumb to know it? That's a strange case of logic...

 

[barkmonster]

So you think because of one guy posted this screenshot, the conclusion and "fact" is that all the others who experience this problem pressed some "okay" button, actively accepted their installer packer download and are simply too dumb to know it? That's a strange case logic...

Not really, it's justification of what I've been saying all along.

 

[lars666]

Not really, it's justification of what I've been saying all along.

So, if I post MY screenshot proof of the automatic download, you claim that I have pressed some "Do you want to download - Yes - Cancel?" pop up and forgot about it / was too stupid to read?

If yes, I feel insulted. If not, I guess we have some kind of Schrödingers Cat here. It does download automatically and it does NOT download automatically at the same time. Assuming we know every important detail of the screenshot case - there already were a lot of other people here who had to backpedal because they have overlooked something.

EDIT: And as to YOUR case - if you really only have about 400 MB free on your iDevice, the 750 MB installer of course will NEVER download itself automatically. How do you think this should work?!

 

[jlnr]

Time for conspiracy theories! Maybe iOS is smart enough never to auto-download OTA updates in regions like Australia, where you can still get volume plans for your wired internet at home.

 

[jesstech]

Not sure about anyone else here, but I've experienced both sides of this debate: my iPhone 4 GSM (which ran iOS 7 GM before downgrading to 6.1.3) was previously showing the 'Download and Install' option — I last checked this afternoon, after my device had been charging all night and connected to wifi. After reading this news post and again checking my settings, it has since downloaded the update and switched to 'Install'.

I haven't yet looked over all 13 pages of this thread but has anyone considered that the download is perhaps initiated after a user "checks" the badged "Software Update" pane, i.e. showing interest? The device appears to briefly query Apple's servers (presumably to check for the latest version) but this could also be a 'flag' to start the determination process for a background download (enough available space, connected to power, etc).

I suspect it was more likely that my iPhone simply hadn't downloaded the just-released 7.0.2 delta update (perhaps after having already downloaded the large iOS 7.0 update—i hadn't checked my space usage) and was offering to "Download and Install" precisely that: 7.0.2 (at only 20MB).

 

[radellaf]

Just happened to me tonight, though free space went from 9.8 to 7.7MB, so it was neither 750MB or 3.1GB in size.
Gave me the opportunity to find out (in "usage") that I was wasting more than 2GB with apps like ROKU and Overdrive that were taking up 100s of MB even though they had no data (the ROKU app was 600MB of... what? cached converted music files is all I can guess).

Why not upgrade?
I prefer to wait for the x.1 update. I wasn't excited by iOS 5,6, or 7, so why update at release? More bugs in the OS, and more incompatible apps is all you get. And from what I see, iOS 7 is _less_ secure than 6.

Also, and I know I've pushed this pretty far time-wise, I still don't want iTunes 11, and iTunes 10 can't sync with iOS 7. I found that out after updating my (less critical to me) iPad retina. Now iTunes bugs me about not being able to sync with it over WiFi, and - I love this - you can't shut off wifi sync since iTunes 10 won't even display the device settings screen with the "sync over wifi" switch. Only reason I synced the iPad was to update photos, though, so no real need to sync. Trying to switch the iPad to sync with the Windows 7 box (with iTunes 11 - how I know that I hate _that_ new UI) as maybe that would take it off my mac's radar.

I'm disappointed, but not surprised, by Apple doing this. They've always been despotic, I've always disliked the changes they push (all the way back to no floppy drive), and I always eventually come 'round, but I'd rather do it on my schedule. Still, beats using Windows 7 or Android on my main devices, so I shall persevere.

 

[alent1234]

interesting, talked to my mom yesterday and she didn't say anything about her ipad being upgraded. she has a 4 which is almost empty

i never told her about ios 7 and was just waiting for her to call me in horror

 

[lars666]

interesting, talked to my mom yesterday and she didn't say anything about her ipad being upgraded. she has a 4 which is almost empty

i never told her about ios 7 and was just waiting for her to call me in horror

Please, let's not start from the beginning AGAIN with the downloading in the background/updating difference. Every time somebody doesn't read carefully before posting, I will now drown a kitten. (Are there even enough on this planet?!)

 

[C DM]

Not really, it's justification of what I've been saying all along.

A broken clock is right not even just once but twice a day, so if you take a look at it just at those times you will conclude that it's perfectly fine, right? There you go. A few examples of something doesn't rule out something else happening at othe times for other people.

 

[lars666]

A broken clock is right not even just once but twice a day, so if you take a look at it just at those times you will conclude that it's perfectly fine, right? There you go. A few examples of something doesn't rule out something else happening at othe times for other people.

And I'm pretty sure even behind these exceptions there's a good reason why the installer package hasn't downloaded itself automatically yet. I wouldn't be surprised if the screenshot poster will either still experience the download or if there is another important variable we don't know about and which would confirm the rule in the end again. See barkmonsters self-confident argumentation with his own iPhone until we finally found out that he has only 400 MB free space left...

 

[donnaw]

Well it happened to me too. I first noticed it when I saw this thread. I purposely did not update this iPad 2 because it's going to my grandson next month and he didn't like iOS 7 (I showed it to him when I had the GM on our other iPad).

I didn't take a screen shot of the initial screen showing it downloaded but when I looked this morning I saw that 7.02 was avaliable. Right after noon I noticed it downloaded. Now I don't know what to do. I'm hoping that when I restore this one to match my grandson's iPad 1 I can retain iOS 6. He's an Aspie and change doesn't always agree with him. Had I had the option to set auto downloads to 'off' I certainly would have.

I'm pretty pissed at Apple for doing this. I've read several posters saying that their iPad 2 doesn't run iOS 7 very well either. If it forces an upgrade and it runs like cr@p I certainly won't be buying the 5 I was planning on next month.

 

[Greg.]

Why the hell are people complaining? OTA updates are nothing new and the process of a major upgrade OTA is nothing new. If this was such an issue, why did these people upgrade or buy a new device when OTA updates first became available on iOS? Sounds like these people need to plan better when a major update is imminent, which they had plenty of notification prior to. SMFH, idiots...

Jeez, talk about ignorant...

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So let me get this straight:

People are whining because THEY chose to update their phone without realizing it was a new OS? How silly.

Learn to read.

 

[donnaw]

For some reason I can't attach two images. Here's the second.

 

[KdParker]

Which part was too difficult to understand?
The topic reads:
"iOS 6 Users Expressing Discontent Over Automatic iOS 7 Over-the-Air Downloads"

It is not about forced to update, but forced to download the update on the phone without any methods to remove the update to retrieve the space eaten up by it.

Again...you are not forced to do anything. You set automatic updates..you get automatic updates.

Not sure you can't get the space back either.

 

[TheOtherKind]

I did not agree to "automatic updates"...and if I had, then I would be on iOS7...(and I'm not...don't kill the cats lars! )...what I chose were OTA updating options, which meant I could update directly without going through iTunes...and don't give me any crap about "convenience" either...
Tell you what, try this experiment...substitute "Microsoft" for "Apple", "Windows 8" for iOS7 and any previous Windows OS for iOS 6...if Microsoft pushed a Windows 8 installation package onto the hard drives of users with a previous version, and it could not be deleted, this place would go gaga ripping them a new one

 

[lars666]

Again...you are not forced to do anything. You set automatic updates..you get automatic updates.

Not sure you can't get the space back either.

I wish I could think you are just a bored troll, but even after all the explaination of the case in this thread, you still ARE that clueless, aren't you...?

 

[Don't panic]

I get headaches, dizziness, and blurry vision when looking at ios7. Visually impaired individuals should have the option to continue having the phone they paid for, and not have stress and inconvenience forced upon them. Just like when I repurchased the same 4S months later, the storage space (for the same phone- same price!) 32G to 16G... Where can I get real help online? Suggestions?

Agreed.
I find the user interface horrible.
And i don't care some much about the plain ugliness of the icons.
It's the bleached-out environment that makes most everything basically unusable, from the font type and spacing, to the unintuitive in-app icons
A veritable disaster.

 

[B4U]

Again...you are not forced to do anything. You set automatic updates..you get automatic updates.

Not sure you can't get the space back either.

Glad the same response can be recycled...

Originally Posted by B4U:
Which part was too difficult to understand?
The topic reads:
"iOS 6 Users Expressing Discontent Over Automatic iOS 7 Over-the-Air Downloads"

It is not about forced to update, but forced to download the update on the phone without any methods to remove the update to retrieve the space eaten up by it.

 

[chabig]

I'd like 7 more if the UI was consistent. For example: Want to close an app, swipe up, but want to close a web page, swipe it to the left.

The consistency for closing an app and closing a web page is that your "throwing" the window out of the list. It's irrelevant that one list is vertical and one is horizontal.

 

[RedRaven571]

It's often not up to the users. At my work, company-owned phones may not be updated to 7.

At my work, they told us not to update 24 hours after the update became available; a little too late for some folks (like me).....

 

[sjh]

You're not forced to enable automatic over-the-air updates. Why enable it if you don't want the update? Sounds like a problem that demands the "world's smallest violin" to play.

You are not able to dis-able and APPL support is un-able to remove the "now downloaded sitting duck"-sw update, esp. because
the Restore w/ pressing the Alt-Key to point to a 6.1.3 ipsw will get you a "the device is not eligible message.." meaning Apple is not allowing an ipad mini bought 2 months ago running 6.1.3 to restore to the same-self OS.

patronizing their customers was an MS feat, so they told us ...

welcome Apple seriously,
Steve

 

[Mebsat]

You are not able to dis-able and APPL support is un-able to remove the "now downloaded sitting duck"-sw update, esp. because
the Restore w/ pressing the Alt-Key to point to a 6.1.3 ipsw will get you a "the device is not eligible message.." meaning Apple is not allowing an ipad mini bought 2 months ago running 6.1.3 to restore to the same-self OS.

patronizing their customers was an MS feat, so they told us ...

welcome Apple seriously,
Steve

Wow, is this true?
You cannot restore to iOS6 if the iOS7 update has downloaded?

 

[hyhybt]

Wow, is this true?
You cannot restore to iOS6 if the iOS7 update has downloaded?

If I've been reading right, any restore done on any device that is capable of running iOS 7 must end in that device running iOS 7.

 

[jay47]

Erase All Content & Settings

Is it not possible to just erase all content & settings ? Last time i did this i was not forced to update & just needed to resync & activate .

I know its a huge pain but its better than being forced to update .