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Anti-Lucifer

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Mar 9, 2012
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pretty neat:

when trying to restore from iTunes (without DFU mode/recovery mode)
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when trying to turn off Find my Iphone from within settings:
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Anti-Lucifer

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Mar 9, 2012
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I went ahead and did a "wipe device" on iCloud.com on my own iPhone 5. I quickly turned off the iPhone BEFORE I even hit the wipe button. Then I started the phone in DFU mode and connected to itunes to try to RESTORE to iOS 7.0 clean restore.

The result is impressive: I cannot get pass this screen because the crook will have to know your iCloud user name AND the password. Good luck thugs!


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Edit: I think if someone is able to load up iOS 6.1, perhaps this will be ineffective. But you know apple servers will block out 6.1.X when iOS 7 is ready. So it's basically a very effective anti-theft security measure!
 
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0309385

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I went ahead and did a "wipe device" on iCloud.com on my own iPhone 5. I quickly turned off the iPhone BEFORE I even hit the wipe button. Then I started the phone in DFU mode and connected to itunes to try to RESTORE to iOS 7.0 clean restore.

The result is impressive: I cannot get pass this screen because the crook will have to know your iCloud user name AND the password. Good luck thugs!


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Edit: I think if someone is able to load up iOS 6.1, perhaps this will be ineffective. But you know apple servers will block out 6.1.X when iOS 7 is ready. So it's basically a very effective anti-theft security measure!

In Activation Lock mode can you track the iPhone on iCloud.com?
 

Anti-Lucifer

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In Activation Lock mode can you track the iPhone on iCloud.com?

You can track if only if you don't use wipe mode. It will auto send emails whenever your phone's location changes/updates.

This new security feature really does work. In fact, I can't think of any other way (even DFU mode) can bypass this. It's not gonna be a bad deal to steal iphones with iOS 7.0.

The only thing I have not tried is DFU mode and RESTORE BEFORE I click the "wipe" button on iCloud.com. I think once you find your phone is missing, you should either do a wipe or "lost mode" (which just alows you to post a note with a phone number to contact) -

I do know that I have RESTORED from DFU mode without using iCloud's "wipe" feature, I don't need to activate with my iCloud credentials. So there you go, if you have your phone stolen, quickly issue the "wipe" or else it won't work.

BUT one thing is that IF you just do a normal RESTORE (home button while plugging in your iPhone), itunes will complain you need to REMOVE the "find my iPhone" first! (my first post above tells you this) - but if you DFU mode restore, I don't think that applies.
 

Gene S

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What do you do when you can not get into Settings to turn off Find My Phone?

I generally don't use a passlock, but when I go out to a bar, or a highly populated area (amusement park) I will enable it just for extra security.

Twice with my old iPhone 4, I locked myself out of the phone and had to wait to get home to do an iTunes restore.

But now, I wouldn't be able to do that since I wouldn't be able to access Settings.
 

Anti-Lucifer

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Mar 9, 2012
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What do you do when you can not get into Settings to turn off Find My Phone?

I generally don't use a passlock, but when I go out to a bar, or a highly populated area (amusement park) I will enable it just for extra security.

Twice with my old iPhone 4, I locked myself out of the phone and had to wait to get home to do an iTunes restore.

But now, I wouldn't be able to do that since I wouldn't be able to access Settings.

If you forget your passcode lock, then you are locked out of your phone. I think a remote "wipe" will fix that but also wipe out your data ONCE YOUR PHONE IS RESTORED.

You're best bet is just to do a DFU restore but then it's the same thing as a remote "wipe" anyway.

Just never lose your iCloud credentials. That is the key to everything.
 

danahn17

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Dec 3, 2009
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Good to hear! It's something that's been needed a long time for any smartphone. Hopefully, Google/Windows/Blackberry will follow suit with similar implementations too...

That being said, the cynic in me is wondering how long it will take before hackers figure out how to override the feature...
 

daigohgoh

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Mar 10, 2011
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sooooo...what if many people don't remember their own passwords? (it's totally possible).

is it then a brick? or can it be restored somehow at the Apple Store? (you have proven that this really is your phone. you registered your name to the serial, etc.)
 

Anti-Lucifer

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Mar 9, 2012
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sooooo...what if many people don't remember their own passwords? (it's totally possible).

is it then a brick? or can it be restored somehow at the Apple Store? (you have proven that this really is your phone. you registered your name to the serial, etc.)

Well, then you are screwed unless you get it reset with apple using their security levels to verify.

I think they are going to use the fingerprint tech in junction with this new security feature.
 

TheHeadFL

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Jul 9, 2009
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I wouldn't think theres much to gain by trying 100 permutations of DFU restore and wipe, etc. This is almost certainly implemented on the server side...

Enabling it in iOS7 sends your phones IMEI to Apple, which gets associated to your iCloud. Then you can do anything you want to the phone, but when you try to use it, it ultimately needs to be activated. Your IMEI attached to someone else's iCloud account and no password? No activation for you.

Edit: Or UDID, or whatever device-unique id you like.
 

ross1998

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Good to hear! It's something that's been needed a long time for any smartphone. Hopefully, Google/Windows/Blackberry will follow suit with similar implementations too...

That being said, the cynic in me is wondering how long it will take before hackers figure out how to override the feature...

Google can try but it most likely won't work because of how open android is, there will always be a way
 

Vetvito

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Sep 30, 2012
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iOS 7.0 Activation lock WORKS 100%

I've never had a phone lost or stolen but I love this.

....

Just this past Sunday at church my lady couldn't find her phone. She was panicking because she couldn't find it. We turn around and two rows back this woman had it and was pointing at these two girls directly behind us saying they grabbed it while we were up participating in the prayer

Some people are sick.
 
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ParagJain

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Jul 24, 2011
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I had discussed this sometime back on the same forum and an interesting thought...

What if you sell the phone on a site like craiglist or something; Take the money in cash of course, and a day later, then lock the phone.

I honestly, am not a developer and I have not installed iOS 7. So really don't know how it works..just reading over here and thought about it.
 

thejadedmonkey

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I had discussed this sometime back on the same forum and an interesting thought...

What if you sell the phone on a site like craiglist or something; Take the money in cash of course, and a day later, then lock the phone.

I honestly, am not a developer and I have not installed iOS 7. So really don't know how it works..just reading over here and thought about it.

What does locking the phone accomplish? Besides the fact that you can do this already?
 

ParagJain

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Jul 24, 2011
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What does locking the phone accomplish? Besides the fact that you can do this already?

Now, what I have understood is that even if you (or someone else) resets the phone, it will still be locked till the iCloud is authenticated.

This is not the case at the moment. Right now, if you want, you can put your phone in DFU, wipe it clean, change the sim and re-activate.
 
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