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I think there's more there than a brightness change, there is some level of a color temperature or gamma type of change, it's just that isn't daily minor that it's not extremely noticeable, but it is noticeable nonetheless.

I hope someone with the proper equipment takes a look. I googled before my snide comments and the "tech" sites repeat press releases and each other. I did see a site that inferred it simply greyed the white but again no technical details. Because of where the control is and what it's called I'm assuming it's a very specific and subtle shift for a particular need. Or it's a knee jerk reaction to, "It's too white!" :)
 
Are you guys pleased with beta 3 over beta 2?

unlike everyone else, i could care less about the way they changed the minor crap like the call and shut down screens.

so far, it seems just as stable as beta 2 other than the stupid auto brightness bug. battery life seems on par with beta 2, which was VERY good to me in terms of battery life.
 
unlike everyone else, i could care less about the way they changed the minor crap like the call and shut down screens.

so far, it seems just as stable as beta 2 other than the stupid auto brightness bug. battery life seems on par with beta 2, which was VERY good to me in terms of battery life.

everything seemed good minus in update part of app store not labeling the apps (discussed earlier) playing with it for an hour or two.

but rendering the phone app keypad was slow, even with jailbreak and sped up animations.

also the deal breaker was Music app was garbage. My favorite band on iTunes match has 41 albums and 366 songs. It took like 5 minutes to get to read all those songs and albums. Even after rendering artwork and all, it still lagged while scrolling to the point of not being responsive for 30 second intervals. Rebooted, nadda. On both iPhone 5 and rMini. Upon putting b2 back on iPhone 5, it read back all those songs in like a second even without having album artwork ready to go. And scrolling, comparatively buttery smooth and actually functional.

Back to b2 for me. b2 with jailbreak until GM if it gets jailbreak too.

I know this thread isnt jailbreak related, but just thought I'd toss in my two cents.
 
The lockscreen no longer locks when you are touching the screen. tbh i'm not sure if this was already fixed in previous 7.1 betas.

e.g. in 7.0, say you had a notification which turned on the screen, you ignore for a few seconds, then go to slide the notification - half way through, the screen timeout could kick in and the screen turns off. but now in 7.1 your half slide prevents the screen timeout. for as long as your finger is on there, the screen won't turn off.

tbh i thought it behaved as it did in 7.0 to prevent butt dialling... in earlier 7.0 betas, people reported butt dialling and i always thought perhaps this was there to stop that... certainly it's now conceivable that it's easier to slide to unlock by accident in 7.1 than it was in 7.0, but whether that translates to real observable effect i have no idea.
 
I just noticed that you can download files via safari and open them in associated apps. I don't remember seeing this in b2.

For example I can open a .torrent file in Dropbox from Safari.
 
I just noticed that you can download files via safari and open them in associated apps. I don't remember seeing this in b2.

For example I can open a .torrent file in Dropbox from Safari.

If i remember well, i could do this on iOS6 ;)
 
No need for reduce motion now, you can now enjoy your motion sickness on iphone 4 too.

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I've just installed beta 3, scrolling is still laggy and going from multitasking to home screen laggs a bit. If Apple could fix these 2, ios 7 would be perfect, it already is smoother than 6.


Odd. Seems to be fine on my end doing the same motions. Did a completely clean install if that makes the difference. Luckily though, each 7.1 release has brought more normal functionality back to the iPhone 4 so hopefully by the time it's publicly released all of the animation lag issues will be sorted out across the board.
 
I just noticed that you can download files via safari and open them in associated apps. I don't remember seeing this in b2.

For example I can open a .torrent file in Dropbox from Safari.

Back it up...that is possible? I tried searching for a way to do that for some time now. How do you do it?
 
Back it up...that is possible? I tried searching for a way to do that for some time now. How do you do it?

I went to my fav torrent site to download the latest ubuntu release via torrent. Click the download link and boom got a screen asking me what i want to open the .torrent file with. I was surprised because I could have sworn I have tried doing it in the past and that did not happen.
 
The lockscreen no longer locks when you are touching the screen. tbh i'm not sure if this was already fixed in previous 7.1 betas.

e.g. in 7.0, say you had a notification which turned on the screen, you ignore for a few seconds, then go to slide the notification - half way through, the screen timeout could kick in and the screen turns off. but now in 7.1 your half slide prevents the screen timeout. for as long as your finger is on there, the screen won't turn off.

tbh i thought it behaved as it did in 7.0 to prevent butt dialling... in earlier 7.0 betas, people reported butt dialling and i always thought perhaps this was there to stop that... certainly it's now conceivable that it's easier to slide to unlock by accident in 7.1 than it was in 7.0, but whether that translates to real observable effect i have no idea.
I've been annoyed by running into that before, but unfortunately I've ran into that a couple of times with beta 3, so I'm not quite sure if that was really changed actually. I'll have to experiment a bit more.
 
That's what I'd expect on a device with a single core processor.

It's not about that core, it's just Apple trying to make us buy new 1000 dollars iphones. Ios 7 is flat and not as intense as ios 6. What is so hard in making settings app smooth? Does the 4 need another core to make the scrolling smooth? No!
 
It's not about that core, it's just Apple trying to make us buy new 1000 dollars iphones. Ios 7 is flat and not as intense as ios 6. What is so hard in making settings app smooth? Does the 4 need another core to make the scrolling smooth? No!

That's like complaining that you can't run Windows 8.1 on computer hardware from 10-15 years ago and have it run just as fast and smooth as having Windows XP on the hardware.

It is not about Apple making iOS only usable on newer hardware and in turn forcing you to upgrade your phone. As software progresses and grows it requires more and more resources. Resources that older hardware just can't provide.
 
I went to my fav torrent site to download the latest ubuntu release via torrent. Click the download link and boom got a screen asking me what i want to open the .torrent file with. I was surprised because I could have sworn I have tried doing it in the past and that did not happen.

Tha is awesome, does it work if I try to download a video file directly and use dropbox to open it?
 
It's not about that core, it's just Apple trying to make us buy new 1000 dollars iphones. Ios 7 is flat and not as intense as ios 6. What is so hard in making settings app smooth? Does the 4 need another core to make the scrolling smooth? No!

Just get an Android for like $10 and be stuck on Froyo instead of complaining dude.
 
It's not about that core, it's just Apple trying to make us buy new 1000 dollars iphones. Ios 7 is flat and not as intense as ios 6. What is so hard in making settings app smooth? Does the 4 need another core to make the scrolling smooth? No!

- Translucency. Even though it's disabled on older devices, it still uses alpha channels which are less efficient.

- It still has to do things like letterpress rendering on text, in apps like reminders and notes (which by the way use textures).

- It has more background tasks running.

There are more reasons, and these are just a few. I don't really think it's very logical to deliberately cripple devices as it moves people to other platforms.
 
It's not about that core, it's just Apple trying to make us buy new 1000 dollars iphones. Ios 7 is flat and not as intense as ios 6. What is so hard in making settings app smooth? Does the 4 need another core to make the scrolling smooth? No!
It's really not as simple as that. There's a whole lot more than just a plain visual flat change, and quite a bit of it is under the hood as well, so you wouldn't even really have anything to see visually to account for it.
 
It is not about Apple making iOS only usable on newer hardware and in turn forcing you to upgrade your phone. As software progresses and grows it requires more and more resources. Resources that older hardware just can't provide.

But they did force the 7 download on you whether you intended on installing it or not, & if you did install it force you to not be able to revert to a stable iOS.
 
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