Stupid trend. It's a great example of an attempt to simplify that complicates things. Seems to be the main inspiration behind ios7. They "flatten" the ui and complicate the intuitiveness. Very Dumb.
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iOS 7.1 Beta 5 Tidbits: Redesigned Shift and Caps Lock, Public Launch Expected Soon
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Stupid trend. It's a great example of an attempt to simplify that complicates things. Seems to be the main inspiration behind ios7. They "flatten" the ui and complicate the intuitiveness. Very Dumb.
The shift key in Beta 4 was awful, you couldn't tell if it was on or off or capslock this is a huge improvement. Don't worry, they are correcting a whoooole lot of other things under the hood. It's exponentially better than 7.0.4.
My only problem with all the 7.1 betas is when you pinch out of a folder there's still a damn delay of a couple seconds before you can tap out of it. This is a huge and only step backwards from 7.0.
The fact that it took apple three or four beta release to get the shift key right really upsets me. It seems apple was enjoying tweaking things around but not getting it right immediately. Does ui team get payment based on number of tweaks?
This is exactly what Steve said when he introduced the iPhone. The keyboard can and should be dynamic and adapt to the situation at hand. In my opinion that includes showing lowercase/uppercase letters.
And I also think the disabled/enabled shift key graphic should be inverted from what is shown in the screen captures, it's totally backwards compared to when you press the other keys, it's counter-intuitive.
The new UK Siri voices sound terrible and very robotic. I'm surprised they still can't get this right. I've switched to the US female voice as it's about the only one I can tolerate.
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I agree, that's just plain stupid and going to confuse the hell out of a lot of people. I predict they'll have to change that back again.
This whole new iOS seems like a continual game of trial and error rather than a fully thought through UI. I wonder if this has something to do with the departure of Forstall. Maybe Jony should stick to what he does best and focus on the hardware side of things while they bring in a new VP for UI across iOS and OSX. The new approach clearly isn't working. This is when you need decisive leadership from Cook.
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I agree, that's just plain stupid and going to confuse the hell out of a lot of people. I predict they'll have to change that back again.
This whole new iOS seems like a continual game of trial and error rather than a fully thought through UI. I wonder if this has something to do with the departure of Forstall. Maybe Jony should stick to what he does best and focus on the hardware side of things while they bring in a new VP for UI across iOS and OSX. The new approach clearly isn't working. This is when you need decisive leadership from Cook.
I used a jailbreak tweak once that enabled a lowercase keyboard. You know what I found? It's extremely disorienting and annoying to see the keyboard flip back and forth often. Every start of a new sentence you see it rapidly change back and forth because we type faster than we realize. Needless to say I deleted it within the day (I gave it a chance).
Fix the crashing already, this issue is killing me! If 7.1 doesn't fix it, I may move to android as my Tablet OS. I'd be hard pressed to ever leave OSX, but IOS 7 issues are crushing me....
You better stay away from Mac OSX then, as its taken Apple around 15 years to get it to a stage where its "right".
Yes, I understand what it is for. It doesn't mean that people use it that often and it definitely does not mean the placement is proper.
I still can't tell when the shift key is enabled. Why can't they make it look the same as the other keys when it's not in use?
Making the arrow white when it's not pressed is distracting because you have to remember that it's pressed when it's black and then caps lock when it looks like a dashed arrow.
I liked it better when it was blue in iOS 6.
Making the arrow white when it's not pressed is distracting because you have to remember that it's pressed when it's black and then caps lock when it looks like a dashed arrow.
I liked it better when it was blue in iOS 6.
No, they made "parallax zooming", and "motion tweening".
Just take note when you open a folder.
They use it for URLs which are things that put into the address bar very often. As for placement, perhaps there might be a better placement, but it would definitely need to be there nonetheless.
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Way more people use a keyboard like that in Android for example without issues, so if that came to iOS it would likely be just fine (if not even better) for the vast majority. Of course there might be some for which it might quite be as convenient somehow, but a good few of those will get used to it and some that remain would be an even smaller number.
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You can use pretty much any wallpaper you wish.So, can we have the Earth wallpaper back yet?
Do you like to hear yourself talk or just fancy yourself some type of iOS expert? You repeat yourself often and you speak in a very authoritative manner throughout this thread.
I can reiterate that I understand WHAT they are used for (will you repeat yourself a fourth time?).
I would like to see some stats as to how many people actually type in full URLS. I know I use my phone a lot for web, and either I type in the search or I use my bookmarks. It is rare when someone knows a multi period URL off hand (ie without searching or hitting a link to it) that isn't already using a bookmark. It would also be counterproductive to type in forums.macrumors.com instead of macrumors and clicking forums.
I also never once said it should not be on the keyboard.
At most I have said they could use the same keyboard for SMS/email. That would be truly 'universal', would it not? Also, I use a LOT of periods when I text. I mean an unbelievable amount. You know, you use them after sentences that don't end in question marks or exclamation points (in case you needed clarification) and I have no issue whatsoever hitting that shift button or double tap when needed.
The Shift Key
I don't understand why Apple takes so much time, so many times and still hasn't figured out the Shift Key root cause...
It's confusing because in the lower case mode, the shiftkey already has a different color/look from the rest of the keys. When it gets inverted, normal human eyes cannot tell because it can vaguely distinguish the difference.
If the shiftkey in lowercase mode is the same as the rest... just as soon as it becomes different, we know it's in capital mode.
Somebody in Ive's team is just being stupid and refuses to acknkowledge his problem!!!
I don't understand why Apple takes so much time, so many times and still hasn't figured out the Shift Key root cause...
It's confusing because in the lower case mode, the shiftkey already has a different color/look from the rest of the keys. When it gets inverted, normal human eyes cannot tell because it can vaguely distinguish the difference.
If the shiftkey in lowercase mode is the same as the rest... just as soon as it becomes different, we know it's in capital mode.
Somebody in Ive's team is just being stupid and refuses to acknkowledge his problem!!!
Dots are not used nearly as much in texting as they are in URLs as they are probably the most basic piece of URLs. And yes, that's the use of an address bar, whether or not you want to be purposefully ignorant or just plain ignorant of that. It's a rather basic concept when it comes to browser and the nature of address bars (even combined ones with search). That's pretty much what it comes down to, even if some might disagree that the should.
As you saw I also agreed about the period perhaps having a better placement, so no one was just blindly saying one extreme or another is it.
Sounds like you are set in your opinion of how it should be, which is certainly fine, but it doesn't change the basics of what certain elements are actually for what what comes with that.
If you feel you have to essentially jump on the poster to try to get your point across, well, that only speaks for the weakness of the point as a good one speaks for itself.
In any case I simply provided an explanation. Jumping all over it doesn't change it so there's not much more to be said about it really.
Wow, I was just making a comment earlier that they should bring back the .com button because it's really annoying to have to type it out. (someone informed me that it's still there if you hold down the period). They need that if they aren't going to have separate search and url fields (something that they really should bring back). I use to just type in the web page name without any .com and it would bring me right to the page. Now it does a wasteful google search for whatever that word was. Hopefully the internet speed is fast enough so I don't have to wait for the google page to load, or it isn't a commonly used term for something else so I have to scroll through multiple hits to find the page I should have already been reading. So, to move that key now would be totally insane. As a matter of fact they should bring back the dedicated search field.
I am not being any more or less condescending than you are. If you believe that I am, maybe you're on the defense because you're used to it?
I won't waste any more time on you. I offered my opinion. I never once said they should get rid of it. You insist on trying to give me some type of lesson - but stay oblivious to why someone would take it the wrong way?