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iOS 7.1, Where Art Thou?

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jrswizzle said:
March 15th doesn't make any sense.....its a Saturday.

More likely the 17th - we see a Beta 6 on the 3rd, GM on the 10th then official release on the 17th.

Or Beta 6 on the 3rd, GM on the 17th and official release on the 24th.

Either way - we're still a few weeks off at least. I don't mind them taking their time. They have that luxury right now whereas when the 5S was coming out, iOS 7 HAD to be ready (it wasn't - at least not in the way I imagine Apple preferred it to be).

Relax - crashes are annoying, but they are minor inconveniences. 7.1 will come (soon) and when it does, we'll get to enjoy iOS 7 the way Apple intended from the start.

In all honesty, I think I might be going back on my thought its better for Apple to keep up with the annual release even if it means a less than stellar OS. Don't get me wrong - I'd still MUCH rather be on 7 than iOS 6, even with the bugs, but part of me just would like for Apple to take its time.

But alas, the market doesn't work that way. Release on schedule, but with some bugs, and you're crucified. Don't release on schedule and you're crucified. Ahh well.

Wonder how much they could help themselves if they released stock app updates via the App Store independent of OS updates (ala Android)....they should move this way.

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You're mistake is thinking this happens to everyone.

I've had ONE springboard crash on my 5S and a handful of app crashes over the course of ownership (release day 5S).

Truth is, some are experiencing lots of crashes, and some of us aren't experiencing many at all.

Just relax - the fix is coming. You act as if Apple is purposefully sitting around saying "HAHA look at jonnyb098 - he's so pissed!!! *Tim picks up phone* Hey Ive, Federighi - hold off for a little longer on that 7.1 update. We want to see these guys squirm."

They'll release it when its ready. Or would you rather them release two major updates in a row that aren't ready for primetime?

Truth is - they were forced to released iOS 7, and right now they can take their time (no unofficial "deadline"). Let them get everything right and release a rock solid 7.1. Honestly, after the redesign, 7.1 will likely be what the next few years of iOS are built on.

To a certain degree, its like we're back at iOS 1.0 - with some HUGE fundamental changes having happened. It won't be like this forever. Only a few more weeks at most.
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They didn't release 7.0 when it was ready, and 6 months later NONE of the bugs which personally affect *me* have been fixed. According to those on the latest BETA, it is STILL apparently full of bugs!

So where do you get this faith from that Apple are going to come good with iOS7 some time soon??
 
sunking101 said:
They didn't release 7.0 when it was ready, and 6 months later NONE of the bugs which personally affect *me* have been fixed. According to those on the latest BETA, it is STILL apparently full of bugs!



So where do you get this faith from that Apple are going to come good with iOS7 some time soon??
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iOS 7 is already "good" in my experience. And I've read the opposite about 7.1 - that nearly every issue is addressed.

Whatever. I'll just stick with my mythically working iPhone 5C, 5S and iPad retina mini all on iOS 7.

Y'all continue.
 
I must agree, iOS 7.0.6 is very crash happy. I don't know why, but the last replacement iPhone I was sent crashes very often. I've tried a reset and restore from new and nothing has help. It was also only after receiving the replacement the issues started.

If 7.1 is as great as everyone says it is, I'll be so happy once I can download it. iOS 7 is a beautiful OS, but its buggy as hell.
 
Rodster said:
That would be great news but I didn't get an indication from the article that it was tied to 7.1
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There were some previous stories of signs of iOS in the car being in iOS 7.1 betas.
 
jrswizzle said:
Lol - I'm actually the one thinking rationally here.

I have X amount of work to do to make OS1 in Y amount of time.

The next year, that amount of work increases a bit because technology advances and more is required of the devices - my work is now 1.5X but I still only have Y time.

Fast forward - for the last 6 years, I've been building on the same platform, but this year I decide to change the architecture and completely redesign my OS. Not to mention the same feature updates and release of any normal year. My amount of work skyrockets to 3X, yet the expectation is that I still release the update in Y time.

Do I say, "Well I have 3 times the amount of work, so it will take me more than Y time" meaning I shun expectations and just release when I'm ready? Or do I decide "These components are critical to achieve a decent experience. If I only do this, my work drops down to 2X which can be accomplished in Y time".

Essentially, you made my point and I agree with you. Apple made the choice to release a somewhat rough iOS 7 because they decided internally it was better than shirking consumer expectations by not releasing any updates at all. So why complain about this? For most people iOS 7 works fine - occasional crashes, a springboard reload here or there, but nothing that causes the phone to be unbearable - and the iOS 7 features are great and add functionality that wasn't there in iOS 7.

Every 6-7 years we'll deal with this (provided the annual timeline continues). Where instead of building on prior years, a redesign and architectural jump must happen but in the same amount of time usually reserved for keeping the same OS up to date.

Do you really think the level of quality should be exactly the same when doing 2X the amount of work in the same timeframe? I can't imagine. Your argument then is that they should've waited. You may say I'm speculating - and I am. I obviously can't know FOR SURE, what would've happened. But I can say that each year we have an "S" iPhone update, people go apesh** about how its not a real update and about how Apple needs to update more. So I have a hard time believing the general consumer base would have a blase attitude to NO new release.

Apple weighed the options, and released iOS 7. That's good enough for me - especially since I seem to have some magical powers that cause this worthless OS to work on all my devices quite well.....not saying I don't experience some crashes, but its nothing like the complaining that happens here.

Anyhow - I'm just sick of hearing about it. The sooner we all get it through our heads that Apple can't do anything right, and we should just accept it or buy something else, the happier we'll all be.
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What architectural change did iOS 7 brought to the table? I can't remember any architectural changes. iOS suddenly did not base on OS X and Unix but using Microsoft's NT or some other things?

"For most people iOS 7 works fine - occasional crashes, a springboard reload here or there, but nothing that causes the phone to be unbearable"

Hmmm... Sound just like how somebody here describing Android

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jrswizzle said:
iOS 7 is already "good" in my experience. And I've read the opposite about 7.1 - that nearly every issue is addressed.

Whatever. I'll just stick with my mythically working iPhone 5C, 5S and iPad retina mini all on iOS 7.

Y'all continue.
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Still feet constant crash from Safari and reloading on iPad mini...count me one with bad experience
 
SMIDG3T said:
You think Apple will release iOS 7.1 in two weeks time when Apple are releasing iOS in the Car next week?

Makes sense to release both next week doesn't it?
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That's what I was thinking. Another possibility is that they announce iOS in the Car next week along with the GM for developers and then have the public release a week later.
 
Tmelon said:
That's what I was thinking. Another possibility is that they announce iOS in the Car next week along with the GM for developers and then have the public release a week later.
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+1 your theory makes more sense......
 
Tmelon said:
That's what I was thinking. Another possibility is that they announce iOS in the Car next week along with the GM for developers and then have the public release a week later.
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Yes. This makes more sense. iOS in the Car is part of iOS 7.1.

I can see that happening. iOS 7.1 released next week to developers along with iOS in the Car and the week after, iOS. 7.1 is released to the public.
 
Are the beta testers given a clue as to how close we are to release? I've got less than 2 weeks to decide if I want to keep or return it to BB. It runs like crap on iOS 7.
 
Rodster said:
Are the beta testers given a clue as to how close we are to release? I've got less than 2 weeks to decide if I want to keep or return it to BB. It runs like crap on iOS 7.
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No they're not, and wtf bb is dead, deal with it, if you wanted an alternative to iOS try android, and I'm a 100% sure that 7.1 will be released (GM and/or public release) before 2 weeks pass
 
dsiiist said:
No they're not, and wtf bb is dead, deal with it, if you wanted an alternative to iOS try android, and I'm a 100% sure that 7.1 will be released (GM and/or public release) before 2 weeks pass
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Huh? BB= BestBuy.
 
dsiiist said:
No they're not, and wtf bb is dead, deal with it, if you wanted an alternative to iOS try android, and I'm a 100% sure that 7.1 will be released (GM and/or public release) before 2 weeks pass
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Thanks, I have android and in it's vanilla form it's rock solid. Kit Kat is much smoother and more robust than iOS 7. It's funny how my iPad 2 runs 7 much better than my Air.
 
Paddle1 said:
Huh? BB= BestBuy.
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Ohhhh, I thought you meant that you would go back to blackberry if iOS 7.1 .................... Carry on, and ignore my previous post

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Rodster said:
Thanks, I have android and in it's vanilla form it's rock solid. Kit Kat is much smoother and more robust than iOS 7. It's funny how my iPad 2 runs 7 much better than my Air.
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It's cause it's much more scaled down on the iPad 2
 
For the love of God I hope it goes gold on Monday. I had 2 tabs open on my iPad Air today with literally no other programs but Safari running and both of them kept refreshing when I'd switch tabs.

That is pathetic.
 
Rodster said:
Are the beta testers given a clue as to how close we are to release? I've got less than 2 weeks to decide if I want to keep or return it to BB. It runs like crap on iOS 7.
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No no one knows except Apple. Return it then you can repurchase it if 7.1 ever releases and you want it.
 
sbailey4 said:
No no one knows except Apple. Return it then you can repurchase it if 7.1 ever releases and you want it.
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Except I got a $190 discount on my 32GB Air. I'd hate to lose a good portion of that discount. That's my problem. I do love the hardware, I have zero problems with the way iOS 7 looks. I just want it to run smooth. I compare it to my iPad 2 and I just smh.
 
Rodster said:
Except I got a $190 discount on my 32GB Air. I'd hate to lose a good portion of that discount. That's my problem. I do love the hardware, I have zero problems with the way iOS 7 looks. I just want it to run smooth. I compare it to my iPad 2 and I just smh.
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Then you will just have to endure it for a few weeks tops.
 
I like how people were calling BS on March rumors. Well here is march, it's officially the end of February, and still no GM
 
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