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iOS 7 Adoption up to 87% Ahead of WWDC's Likely iOS 8 Announcement
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I made a claim like that somewhere?
That certainly seems to me like what you are implying here:
Not what I was trying to say with that, but alright, let's go down that path--which ones of them had a fundamental major security issue that was addressed by only being able to upgrade to the next major version?
First result in a search:
http://www.androidkitkat.org/news-u...-kitkat-security-features-block-rootkits/160/
But what were you trying to say?
Certainly enhancing and improving security is certainly not even in the same league as having a really bad yet completely simple security hole in the basic implementation of internet data security--of basically simply not enforcing that very fundamental security model that is at the heart of secure data transport over the internet--that iOS had. Seems like we are back to apples and oranges.
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Shocking strategy on your part. Dismiss anything that disagrees with your point as irrelevant.
There is nothing but arbitrary opinion that puts a rootkit in a different league than the SSL flaw. A rootkit puts you at more risk. And, again, that was simply the first result in a search.
Windows 8 isn't mac like at all. It's just a terrible mashup of two incompatible UI's. If you have to resort to ad hominem to describe people with a different opinion than yours, you've already lost the argument.
So basically more speculation. Understandable. And I guess certainly easier to try to go after the other person saying they have some strategy or some agenda.Shocking strategy on your part. Dismiss anything that disagrees with your point as irrelevant.
There is nothing but arbitrary opinion that puts a rootkit in a different league than the SSL flaw. A rootkit puts you at more risk. And, again, that was simply the first result in a search.
Having a rootkit installed due to something that you were installing on your own yourself from outside the ecosystem is a whole lot different than the underlying layer of secure data transport on your whole device by default (out of the box) being insecure while pretending to be otherwise. To pretend or argue that there's no basic difference in that pretty much undermines the argument in itself.
In any case, seems like you'll keep dismissing anything I bring up just as well. So not much of a point to keep this going and continue taking over the thread with the same things being repeated pretty much. I guess we can agree to disagree, or just simply disagree.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/13/windows-8-sales-200-million/
No, selling also. Upgrading too, but selling a lot. It's the second best selling Windows after Windows 7.
That's pretty damn impressive, especially considering the ceaseless whining from some Windows users.
Windows 8.x is amazing for being fricking Windows. Made by Microsoft.
It's not impressive at all (relative to previous releases). Windows 8 has a larger market to draw from than anything prior, is installed by default on new systems and its predecessor is still outpacing it. Windows 8.1 is going in the right direction, but it has a long way to go towards "amazing".
Again, this argument is completely tangential to what we were talking about. It's simply the first thing that came up in a search for KitKat security.KitKat also introduces features that prevent malicious and fraudulent certificates that allow the monitoring of encrypted network traffic and secure SSL/TLS communications.
http://www.citeworld.com/article/2114390/mobile-byod/android-kitkat-security-blunder.html
It would be helpful if you addressed the argument instead of ignoring it in favor of tangents and speculation.
What did you mean in the claim that I called BS and FUD?
Where is your evidence that the SSL fix had a significant impact on iOS 7 adoption? iOS 7 was over 80% before the flaw was even publicly disclosed. There was only a slight uptick in adoption after 7.0.6 was released, and iOS 7.1 was released in the same time frame.
I'm going to get a bit salty here. The only reason adoption is up from where it was is because Apple screwed up the HTTPS encryption in iOS 6 and 7 and then...
And then!
And then they didn't make a patch for iOS 6. So if you didn't want to get main-in-the-middled you were forced to upgrade.
100% Grade A bull ****.
And then!
And then they didn't make a patch for iOS 6. So if you didn't want to get main-in-the-middled you were forced to upgrade.
100% Grade A bull ****.
Forced adoption
More of a forced march than a love letter to iOS7.
I finally upgraded my iPads after this happened:
Really, there isno choice...
While it is true that younger people love the retro Coleco-vision flat design motif of iOS7, people who remember the '80s, not so much. We've had "flat" for decades and consider the look of iOS 6 to BE The Modern. Bland wins over Beautiful---hoo yah!
More of a forced march than a love letter to iOS7.
I finally upgraded my iPads after this happened:
- Security fix only released for iOS 7. So huge exposure to stay on iOS 6. Great choice! Only devices that couldn't go to iOS 7 got security fixes for iOS 6.
- Apps I need started to require iOS 7 out of the gate. Usually had much more time before this happened. Not this time--the APIs and design are so different no one wants to bother with backward compatibility. Hut too three four!
- 3 Gigs of wasted space on all three of our iPads for the pre-downloaded Install file that we didn't want. On a 16 gig iPad, ouch! What a huge bite! Not an option at all...just a huge waste of already limited space, a way of Apple saying upgrade or suffer the consequences.
Really, there isno choice...
While it is true that younger people love the retro Coleco-vision flat design motif of iOS7, people who remember the '80s, not so much. We've had "flat" for decades and consider the look of iOS 6 to BE The Modern. Bland wins over Beautiful---hoo yah!
Again, there was no significant uptick with the release of the SSL fix.
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=18973334#post18973334
(And they did make a patch for iOS 6, but it was only available for devices that could not install iOS 7.)
Yes
That's exactly what it means.
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Yeah Windows 8 kinda is Mac like, in fact very much so. It was a breeze to make the switch.
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It's predecessor is not outpacing it, since its predecessor isn't sold any more.
What part of "no significant uptick" led you to that conclusion?
Yes, some people upgraded because of the fix. No, it was not a significant number.
iOS 7 "hatred" flame ranting is officially reserved for a miniscule fraction of the 13% of the total, worldwide iOS device user base having not upgraded to it, it would seem.
I wonder what that ridiculously minute island of luddites are hoping for; a change of heart from Cupertino?
I wonder what that ridiculously minute island of luddites are hoping for; a change of heart from Cupertino?
I, for one, already is your counter-example.
For those of you who think you are in charge of what I should like in a particular UI and OS, ask yourself the question again...
You realize there are plenty of people with iOS 7 who either have some issues with iOS 7 or aren't happy about something being removed or changed from what they used in precious versions. The numbers you are referring to are pretty much unrelated to any of that.
Hello
Yes, I know - I have an iPod touch 5G with 7.1 with very poor battery life (it's brand new); I was more referring to the ludicrous "designed with a crayon set"/"copying Android" references - should have clarified that.
Thanks.
I see. Well, realistically speaking, even out of those quite a few of them ended up with iOS 7 one way or another more than likely.Hello
Yes, I know - I have an iPod touch 5G with 7.1 with very poor battery life (it's brand new); I was more referring to the ludicrous "designed with a crayon set"/"copying Android" references - should have clarified that.
Thanks.
Uhm, what?
Sarcasm, you know how Apple always takes away the key features off previous gen hardware - but the iPhone 5 and 5c have the identical h/w so I am guessing all the features should be available on these devices as the 5c was launched with the 5s.