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iOS 7.1 and iPhone 4S

I've been using iOS 7 on my 2 year old iPhone 4s since it became available. The phone is faster, no longer gets warm sitting on the nightstand, and the battery life is much improved. I haven't experienced the random reboots others have reported. Skeuomorphism, a word no consumer ever heard before iOS 7, appears to be ineffecient and adds nothing to the functionality.
 
I am a little frustrated with how many reboots and safari crashes happen, but 7.1 has been a significant upgrade in that aspect. I'm hoping iOS 8 stabilizes a little more.

I've had no crashes since 7.1, but the tab reloading is still the same as it was since day 1. It happens for me with 3-5 tabs open. Others have stated that it happens with one tab open if they do something else and go back to the tab they had open. It happens with Chrome too, so I don't think it's a Safari issue. It must be memory management as others have stated.
 
I've had no crashes since 7.1, but the tab reloading is still the same as it was since day 1. It happens for me with 3-5 tabs open. Others have stated that it happens with one tab open if they do something else and go back to the tab they had open. It happens with Chrome too, so I don't think it's a Safari issue. It must be memory management as others have stated.

It truly is totally pathetic. I've typed out some fairly long replies on this forum on my iPad, switched to another tab to refer to something only to have the page reload when I switch back and "disappear" my text. :mad:

I can have twice as many tabs open on my Android devices and not once has this happened to me.
 
i hate to say it but..... Apple caters to the mass or the majority of the population instead of nerd heads :)...

and yes I'm one of those nerds !... i have a degree in computer engeneering and love to tinker with my toys...but in the end ... I have to agree that Apple is doing it "right" for being simple , user friendly. after a couple of years of tinkering with options and customizations, I couldn't stand all the bugs and crap-wares on Android phones ....

good job Apple !
 
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So then I suppose you could say this about previous versions of iOS too? Were people able to downgrade from iOS 6 back to iOS 5? Bottom line is, if these numbers are not an accurate reflection, we'll see it in fewer device sales.

You're making a baseless assumption that dissatisfaction with the iOS7 interface results in a decision not to buy an iOS 7 device. That's a big assumption.

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i hate to say it but..... Apple caters to the mass or the majority of the population instead of nerd heads :)...

Apple doesnt cater to anyone except Apple and you better like it or tough luck.
 
I am in the 2%, running iOS 5 on iPhone 4.

With jailbreak, my phone did everything iOS 6 brought to the table that I needed already.
Then with 7, stories of it making the iPhone 4 run slow, I skipped it too.
I see nothing in 7.1 that would make it worthwhile upgrading.

That said, the number of apps that don't run on 5 continues to grow, but given the phone is 3 years old and I have more and more switched to using the iPad for apps, the most telling thing for me is I am almost at the point where the iPhone will be irrelevant.

I have been just as slow with OSX. One comp is on 10.6, the other on 10.7. I have not had any incentive to upgrade either. Perhaps 10.10 will change that, but I don't consider new apps like Maps or Messages to be a reason to upgrade when third party apps work just fine on the older OS.
 
EDIT: 5 seconds after tapping "Submit", Safari crashed. Add that to the 6-7 hard reboots a day and you see where I am.

Good hell are you on an iPad 1st gen or something? My Air never crashes/needs hard reboots and I'm on a jailbroken 7.1 beta 4

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ios adoption numbers cannot be compared to anything because ios cannot be downgraded

That doesn't stop them from upgrading to iOS 7. Why would you want to downgrade anyway?
 
iOS 8 kicks iOS 7 away

strongly believe iOS 8 will have a final adoption of 96% since iOS 7 has so many bugs.
 
I have been just as slow with OSX. One comp is on 10.6, the other on 10.7. I have not had any incentive to upgrade either. Perhaps 10.10 will change that, but I don't consider new apps like Maps or Messages to be a reason to upgrade when third party apps work just fine on the older OS.

You should absolutely keep your one computer running 10.6 for legacy software (and IMO the best OS Apple ever made), but you should really consider upgrading your 10.7 to 10.9. It's free, after all, and a heck of a lot better than 10.7. 10.9 is the most polished OS X since 10.6, and has significant performance improvements. If you're on a laptop, you're crazy if you're not running 10.9 thanks to all the battery-saving features.

There's more to an OS than what bundled apps it comes with. There's a lot that happens under the hood.
 
At an 87% adoption rate with only a vocal minority complaining on forums, it's safe to say that it's pretty good.

While the vocal minority complains about iOS 7's icons and lack of "buttons," they completely miss the new physics UI that makes all other OS'es feel slightly awkward and unnatural by comparison.
 
Good hell are you on an iPad 1st gen or something? My Air never crashes/needs hard reboots and I'm on a jailbroken 7.1 beta 4

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That doesn't stop them from upgrading to iOS 7. Why would you want to downgrade anyway?


Just saying that ios is unique in that it cannot be downgraded.

And 7.1b4 cannot be jailbroken..
 
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By that logic, since Windows 8 is selling better than Windows 7 did, does that mean more people like Windows 8 too?

Seriously, that's terrible logic.

Ok if he's being slightly silly, you're being über silly...
The article states that in 7 months, Apple has 87% of their user base (iPad & iPhone) using their latest OS... In contrast; in just one less month Android has captured a nominal 5.3% to its latest OS.
Although it is childish to gloat over this crushing & ridiculously huge, wildly beneficial margin.... and not true to equate these numbers with the OS being flawless; it is downright ignorant to pretend like this isn't significant & advantageous.
An 82% lead in an area as critical as new OS adoption is nothing to sneeze at. If one manufacturer had 82% fewer returns, would that impress you? If an ecosystem had an 82% higher market share would that impress you? If a device had 82% better battery life would that impress you?
See....? No matter what metric you put such an enormous percentage differentiation on; it sounds very impressive.
This is a landscape where all the top tier devices are neck & neck.... in speed, in camera quality, in battery life, etc. You simply don't hear about any one thing being more than marginally better from device to device/platform to platform.
I don't see how you can keep a straight face while trying to undermine the significance of this blatant dichotomy on this single issue... It's quite clearly Android's Achilles heel... whereas Apple can do their largest bit of needed catch up in a single release (larger screen please!!!), unfortunately- I don't see Android, as an OS solving their issue until Google takes the OS updating chore out of the hands of the carriers & device manufacturers and pushes them out themselves. I see this as being a long hard road.. at least several years. Only then could we see some true parity in comparisons- not just in "this year's iPhone vs. one or two flagship Android handsets, running the latest software".
 
By that logic, since Windows 8 is selling better than Windows 7 did, does that mean more people like Windows 8 too?

Seriously, that's terrible logic.

True, except that w8 is not doing any better.

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May be if Apple would allow an easy way to fall back to the previous iOS, we would know the TRUE adoption rate.

Do the other operating systems allow you to do that? Simple question..

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Can't. Roll. Back.

Oh, com on! If it was as bad as some people here makes it, it would have been major disaster and most people would have been warned not to upgrade. Just because you don't like it it doesn't mean every one doesn't. Get over it.
 
When serious security holes is used to force people into upgrading, no wonder the adoption rate is artificially high.
 
Apple hijacker.

It's easy to be the most downloaded OS if Apple hijack the device and install it.
I managed to downgrade my iPhone for few minutes, then downgrade was gone.
Thanks to iOS 7 I've bought my very first non Apple computing device after 30yrs ..

I think iOS 7 is, by far, the worst Apple product ever made.

I don't think iOS 8 will be different, and as Mac professional user i'm s... scared of what they can come up with next mac os.

If I'm going to buy an iPad now is because has Lightroom and Paper. Both non Apple products.

It seems that the whole Apple philosophy behind their products is gone.
I just hope to be wrong.
 
Windows 8 us far far better than Windows 7, there's just a whole bunch of people out there who are completely computer illiterate or completely hysterical because they don't want Windows to become more Mac-like.

In which universe does Windows 8 resemble a Mac in any way?
 
Good hell are you on an iPad 1st gen or something? My Air never crashes/needs hard reboots and I'm on a jailbroken 7.1 beta 4

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That doesn't stop them from upgrading to iOS 7. Why would you want to downgrade anyway?

Small sample admittedly but, (of the people I know very well), at my office of maybe 60 staff I would say that about 19 have iPhones. Now I'm a Mac junkie so I knew about iOS7 pretty much as soon as it came out, (regular trips to Mac news/rumour sites), and had installed immediately.
When I arrived at work only 2 others knew about it. Of course over the next few of days I gave my summary;
Very functional but as ugly as hell IMO. (I didn't mention the ugly as hell bit initially).
Turns out of the ones I told about it, probably 10 people, 8 wanted to downgrade. They'd left it too long though and Apple had stopped the verification process for iOS6 so even though they had the ipsw file they were stuck.
iOS works well but I'd certainly not call it nice. There are people who think it's an aesthetic fail, why is it so hard to understand they want something that looks nice?
 
Hopefully iOS 8 will be better than 7.

While 7 may be a marvel of coding, I prefer the look and feel of 6, and count myself fortunate that my replacement iPhone 5 came with iOS 6.
 
Having jumped ship from iOS 7 to Android back in November, I do find it ridiculous how long Android phones can take to receive updates to the latest software.



My network (Three) still hasn't approved a Kit Kat update for the Galaxy S4.



Almost half a year!!


That's one of the reasons I went the other way 2 1/2 years ago - It was OK when I had a nexus one direct from google, but updating to a SGS2, I had a frustrating wait on Vodafone for an update. When it finally turned up, months later, there was a bug in kies which bricked my phone and it had to go to Samsung to be sorted (along with piles of others). Having new features is great, but one of the updates I was waiting for was to fix the GPS fix, it would take easily 2-3 minutes, making any map based apps annoyingly slow...
 
In which universe does Windows 8 resemble a Mac in any way?

Wow, it's the most Mac-like Microsoft OS ever made. First of all, it is amazingly well built, stable, things "just work". That is Mac-like.

The Desktop UI can be set up to open a new window every time a new folder is opened *and* always remember the position and view of that window!

The look and feel is coming together, a Mac-like experience. And the Modern UI works amazing on a desktop machine. :cool::apple:
 
I am in the 2%, running iOS 5 on iPhone 4.

With jailbreak, my phone did everything iOS 6 brought to the table that I needed already.
Then with 7, stories of it making the iPhone 4 run slow, I skipped it too.
I see nothing in 7.1 that would make it worthwhile upgrading..

Same. I didn't think there were any of us left. heh

I mainly didn't want to loose my jailbreak, its always such a pain to get it back, along with any other tweaks, if I even get them all.

But I also just dont care for the new flat look at all. I came pretty close to upgrading last week but chickened out. If it weren't for all the new apps I cant run I would be fine with what I have until I'm forced to when iphone 6 comes around.
 
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